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BionicTiger said:
This. The guy was a middling KGB agent who was basically exiled to a dead end do nothing post for the first half of his career. His cover was door to door shoe salesman. He started to come into his own when he got moved to east Germany (Dresden) and honed his skills working with - bastions of humanity and morality - the stasi and the Red Army Faction. It was basically a perfect finishing school for Eastern European gangsters. He’s an opportunistic thug that developed a network of more skilled opportunistic thugs that helped him strike when the time was right. He consolidated power and insured their loyalty with a combination of horrifying brutality (the vast majority of which the west won’t learn about for decades, if ever) and insane levels of wealth.

Anyone comfortable with leaders like him having a seat at any table of any geopolitical cachet or consequence is too ignorant for words. He’s Stalin limited by the Information Age.
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Yep, his job was to monitor dissidents in a backwater. He wasn’t John Wick, though he was legitimately talented at judo in his younger years.

Father was a staunch communist, grandfather was Lenin’s cook. Food for thought when Trump’s disciples call Biden a communist
 
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BionicTiger said:
This. The guy was a middling KGB agent who was basically exiled to a dead end do nothing post for the first half of his career. His cover was door to door shoe salesman. He started to come into his own when he got moved to east Germany (Dresden) and honed his skills working with - bastions of humanity and morality - the stasi and the Red Army Faction. It was basically a perfect finishing school for Eastern European gangsters. He’s an opportunistic thug that developed a network of more skilled opportunistic thugs that helped him strike when the time was right. He consolidated power and insured their loyalty with a combination of horrifying brutality (the vast majority of which the west won’t learn about for decades, if ever) and insane levels of wealth.

Anyone comfortable with leaders like him having a seat at any table of any geopolitical cachet or consequence is too ignorant for words. He’s Stalin limited by the Information Age.
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Whale, whale, whale…right on cue.
 
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LaniKaiTiger said:
Yep, his job was to monitor dissidents in a backwater. He wasn’t John Wick, though he was legitimately talented at judo in his younger years.

Father was a staunch communist, grandfather was Lenin’s cook. Food for thought when Trump’s disciples call Biden a communist
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Knew his dad was nkvd. Grandfather was also a personal cook for Stalin as well.
 

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BionicTiger said:
Knew his dad was nkvd. Grandfather was also a personal cook for Stalin as well.
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It’s different now given the war, but the Western media was complicit for years in building up this mystique of him as a grand strategist riding a horse shirtless.

He’s a little man that spends his days in a constant state of paranoia surrounded by a shrinking circle of parasitic oligarchs.
 
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BionicTiger said:
Like 3% of that is accurate. Ukraine is corrupt? Okay. Now do russia. The us is a bad actor in that region? How exactly? Be specific. Know I’ve spent a lot of time in “that region.” We’re borrowing from China to pay Ukraine? I’m not even going to address that dumbassery.

You don’t see the issue with a world where reasonably developed regional powers are allowed to wage unprovoked wars on other sovereign nations unchecked? Focusing on soft targets and civilians? You’re cool with that?
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Dude... OP is just blindly following Trump. If Trump were to flip and support Ukraine, he'd be the biggest supporter of those freedom fighters you've ever seen. Right now he's just in line to bob on Putin's cock right beside Trump.

I'm not a huge supporter of Ukraine myself, but this is the best thing to happen to the US/Russia competition in a WHILE. Russia is bleeding themselves white in a war that should have been over in a month. It's also serving notice to China that attempting an invasion of Taiwan may not be as easily done as they think.
 
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hopefultiger13 said:
Dude... OP is just blindly following Trump. If Trump were to flip and support Ukraine, he'd be the biggest supporter of those freedom fighters you've ever seen. Right now he's just in line to bob on Putin's cock right beside Trump.

I'm not a huge supporter of Ukraine myself, but this is the best thing to happen to the US/Russia competition in a WHILE. Russia is bleeding themselves white in a war that should have been over in a month. It's also serving notice to China that attempting an invasion of Taiwan may not be as easily done as they think.
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To the last point, the war in Ukraine's given me some small hope that Xi may be talked down from invading Taiwan. We succeeded in getting China to change it's mind about supporting Russia with arms
 
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BionicTiger said:
Not sure that isn’t actually mildly concerning. Also not sure it has that much to do with us.
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I actually agree with this. This is purely a business decision for China. It's bad enough that China/Russia share a lot of military equipment, but China's ally is putting on an EPIC FAIL at the international level.

EVERYONE, US experts included thought that Ukraine didn't really stand much of a chance here and that Russia would overrun the Ukraine Capitol in just a few days. Well, not so much...

But the key here is not that Ukraine did so great (and to be fair, they did defend well), but Russia REALLY dropped the ball trying to finesse the War with Special Ops and precision strikes.

I think that China probably wants to do the same thing with Taiwan... Just an overwhelming strike and it's over in a few days. And they have the troops for it for sure. But there's a 100+ miles of water between mainland China and Taiwan. As long as Taiwan doesn't get surprised and just keeps picking off transports, it could cost China a million men to take Taiwan. NOT something China can afford to do.
 
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hopefultiger13 said:
I actually agree with this. This is purely a business decision for China. It's bad enough that China/Russia share a lot of military equipment, but China's ally is putting on an EPIC FAIL at the international level.

EVERYONE, US experts included thought that Ukraine didn't really stand much of a chance here and that Russia would overrun the Ukraine Capitol in just a few days. Well, not so much...

But the key here is not that Ukraine did so great (and to be fair, they did defend well), but Russia REALLY dropped the ball trying to finesse the War with Special Ops and precision strikes.

I think that China probably wants to do the same thing with Taiwan... Just an overwhelming strike and it's over in a few days. And they have the troops for it for sure. But there's a 100+ miles of water between mainland China and Taiwan. As long as Taiwan doesn't get surprised and just keeps picking off transports, it could cost China a million men to take Taiwan. NOT something China can afford to do.
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It would be incredibly difficult to launch an amphibious assault on Taiwan. Doing so would result in a blood bath. And, China doesn’t have the airlift capability to execute an invasion and sustain a protracted fight.
 
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adgjunior said:
“Chew on this” - LOL!

Do you even bother to question the validity of anything you read or post? Simple math would’ve done it for you here:

$135 billion to Ukraine / 330 million population = $409 per American.
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He was probably just referring to legal citizens that actually pay any taxes, but whatever.
 
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TigerGrowls said:
He was probably just referring to legal citizens that actually pay any taxes, but whatever.
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Solid response.

Once again, simple math is your friend here. Using his $500K / American figure, that would mean only 270K Americans pay taxes. That’s 0.0008% of the population.

Either he’s really terrible at math OR he’s throwing out ******** because he knows it will fool people who want “info” to reinforce their beliefs - aka Followers.
 
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