UCF Jumped Bucky in CFP Poll
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I really hope they get in somehow. Watching them get crushed by Bama would be fun. I don't see it happening though. They'll beat Kentucky or some other somewhat above average team in their bowl by 7 and claim another Natty
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They won't make it I know, but, They get a top 6 bowl and win again and complete back to back undefeated seans. These are Frost's players, Frost/Nebraska culture and product of Duvall's S&C which is still there kept going by Zak's underlings down there. They will win the Bowl game, if you think not, put your money where your're mouth is! GO BIG RED!!
God who cares about UCF. Frost also coached at Oregon so we better root for them too.
UCF should have jumped Bucknuts.
Washington St and UCF should be ahead of LSU too.
Washington St and UCF should be ahead of LSU too.
Ran sims http://www.ncaagamesim.com/FB_GameSimulator.asp UCF vs each top 25 team on a neutral field, here is how it broke it down. This is about how I have it figured too. Little chance against the top 5 or 6 and about 50/50 vs the rest.
Odds UCF win vs
Bama 10%
Notre Dame 40%
Mich 20%
Clemson 33%
Oklahoma 15%
Georgia 17%
LSU 28%
Wash St 45%
Ohio St 42%
Florida 37%
Penn St 29%
WV 39%
Texas 57%
Kentucky 40%
Washington 46%
Utah 45%
Miss St 36%
Northwestern 86%
Syracuse 80%
Utah St 70%
Texas AM 23%
Boise St 55%
Pitt 58%
Iowa St 50%
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UCF will get a top 6 bowl and just like last year I take these percentages with a grain of salt as last year Auburn was predicted to beat them by almost 20 and look what happened.
There is not one team on that list that can shut that offense down and that's fact. I'm a Husker fan through and through, but will root for these guys. Hate on their fans, not the team!
I know Im not sure what exactly goes into these sim sites.
Bowls are hard to judge vs Reg season when it matters. I know UCF hangs their hat on meaningless bowl wins, but doing it during the reg season is just different. I would bet many teams go into it with a "exhibition" game mentality. Last year UCF didn't they were out to prove to the world they belonged. They had much more to lose than Auburn did
Agree, I don't hate the team. Their fans and AD are giving them a bad rap and coming across as arrogant, self entitled A- holes. I would love for UCF to get a shot to consistently play great competition every year. I would love to see them go to the BIG12 or another p5 conference. All this back and forth would end. They would be able to prove they are legit or not.
Wyldcard said it so its a fact.. except its not a fact cause they will never play all those teams to make your statement a fact.. until they do it is still your opinion now you have every right to state your opinion on here but shut up about everything you say is a fact.. your annoying
Living in Nittany country I've gotten to see a lot of PSU.. all UCF jokes aside I think they would have a much better chance than 29%. PSU isn't great this year. And didn't they destroy Pitt earlier in the year? Pitt was playing pretty bad at the beginning of the year but still 58% seems low honestly
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truth be told, i did gain a major soft spot for Oregon while Frost was there.
UCF fans have always been too insufferable to pull for
I will not pull for UCF, I did last year because our coach was there. I have absolutely no reason to now, and definitely won't with the complete jerks their fanbase has been to us. I don't know how someone separates a team and their fanbase. They're all part of the same group.
Not only that, but their douchey AD basically fuels the fire
Yeah-really can't stand him. I think he was arrogant enough to actually believe that Frost wasn't going to leave.
Does UCF's jumping Ohio State really mean anything though? If Ohio State loses to Michigan, they were going to drop below UCF anyway. And if they beat Michigan, OSU will almost certainly pull back ahead of UCF. In fact, if OSU beats Michigan I'm sure the TV talking heads will go on and on and on about how OSU should jump right into the top 4.
You didn't run vs. Nebraska?
in Lincoln: Nebraska beats UCF 85%
in Orlando: Nebraska beats UCF 67%
Thanks @husker2612 now you got me stuck at this simulation site. I'm re-thinking my life as a whole.
Here you go:
FINAL SCORE
10
30
The average score is Iowa (2019): 16.4 - Nebraska (2019): 21.5, decided by < 5 pts 81 times (27.2%)
MATCHUP SIMULATION STATS
Iowa vs. Nebraska
# of simulations:
298
# of overtimes:
13 (4.4%)
(2019)
» Iowa won 111 times (37.2%)
» Iowa won by >20 pts 13 times (4.4%)
(2019)
» Nebraska won 187 times (62.8%)
» Nebraska won by >20 pts 49times (16.4%)
Here you go:
FINAL SCORE
The average score is Iowa (2019): 16.4 - Nebraska (2019): 21.5, decided by < 5 pts 81 times (27.2%)
MATCHUP SIMULATION STATS
Iowa vs. Nebraska
# of simulations:
298
# of overtimes:
13 (4.4%)
» Iowa won 111 times (37.2%)
» Iowa won by >20 pts 13 times (4.4%)
» Nebraska won 187 times (62.8%)
» Nebraska won by >20 pts 49times (16.4%)
Allow me to remind everyone that Bucky is Wisconsin, not Ohio State. Carry on.
I know, ran it the other day and posted it. UCF is one of the most overrated teams in the country. I would bet if they played in a P5 conf, they wouldn't be 20 some game winning streak, they wouldn't be ranked 9th. I am guessing most years they would be in the 6-8 win mark.
I bet you were one of them that thought Auburn would blow them out in the Sugar Bowl last year weren't ya? They're doing what they have to do regardless of the schedule that's been handed to them. You don't think for one minute that the players don't wanna play better competition to shut all or most of the naysayer's up?, they very much do to prove they aren't a fluke. It's not the team's fault for their schedule as they have no say so, however it falls and the athletic department administration. So if UCF does it again in a top 6 Bowl against yet another big opponent when teams are playing arguably the best ball of the season, what then is the excuse gonna be? This here could very well generate an 8 team playoff into being as it would be undeniable. Revisit this after their top 6 bowl.
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I honestly hope they make it up to 4th. Then they either get shithoused by Bama and finally shut up (99% chance) or beat Bama which would be high comedy (1% chance). (The percentages were determined through my proprietary simulation and are also undeniably facts). But finishing 7th and beating Florida or Penn State has idgaf written all over it and will just perpetuate this stupid narrative.
I would love to see UCF get a chance in the playoff. So they can prove either they belong or they don't. The debate back and forth is intriguing yet annoying at the same time. They have proven they are the best in a crappy low level conference. Is that enough to jump them to the front of the line, so to speak?
Yes I agree, it is not the players, or even the coaches fault. The AD loves to tweet and talk crap but he is the one holding this team back. He will only play p5 teams that will play home and homes. They haven't earned that right yet. Then he complains nobody will play them. If he was serious about getting respect. He would play any team, anywhere, any time. He would do it year in and year out. If UCF can go into P5 teams houses and beat them consistently, then they would get the respect.
I believe they have done enough to get into a p5 conference. Until they do this debate is not going to end anytime soon
What about Georgia, LSU or Oklahoma. OU would be the best matchup for them as OU has proven that they have absolutely no defense. UCF on the other hand has found one with Randy Shannon. That would be a fun game to watch. Overall team speed, I give the edge to UCF.
I watch the first full UCF game this year, last week. I will admit they are probably one of the fastest teams in the country.
Since their superbowl win against a really banged Alabama team last year Auburn is 7-6 with a conference record of 3-5. Real world beaters those UCF guys are.....
Lol I know it is addicting. I have been tempted to pay $5 to be able to input more details, such as weather conditions, hurt players, starting LU ect. I ran it for last year UCF vs Auburn. It only favored Auburn by 5 pts. Gave them a 60% chance to win. So not a crazy fav as many experts were thinking last year.Thanks @husker2612 now you got me stuck at this simulation site. I'm re-thinking my life as a whole.
Here you go:
FINAL SCORE
10
30
The average score is Iowa (2019): 16.4 - Nebraska (2019): 21.5, decided by < 5 pts 81 times (27.2%)
MATCHUP SIMULATION STATS
Iowa vs. Nebraska
# of simulations:
298
# of overtimes:
13 (4.4%)
(2019)
» Iowa won 111 times (37.2%)
» Iowa won by >20 pts 13 times (4.4%)
(2019)
» Nebraska won 187 times (62.8%)
» Nebraska won by >20 pts 49times (16.4%)
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Totally agree, LSU's offense sucks, and this is straight-up SEC love that is keeping them ahead of both UCF and Wazzu. Those are more complete teams.
The top 3 last year in the SEC was a vicious, vicious bunch. I don't think Auburn recovered from that 3 game stretch, and Georgia/Bama are much deeper teams.
But keep pissing all over UCF, it makes Nebraska fans look oh so very special. Given the state of our Program in comparison, it especially rings of Holiday Cheer and Sugar Plums and such. Bravo!
I've always kind of liked LSU (I root for them second if I had to pick) but they shouldn't be so high. Straight SEC bias. I probably just liked the tiger logo as a kid or something stupid so I would root for them
Are we not allowed to judge other teams as college football fans? Or is there some particular record your team has to achieve in order for you to make such judgments on other teams? If I or anyone else thinks UCF is overrated or undeserving, we have the right to that opinion regardless of how good we are this year. The two things have absolutely nothing to do with each other.
Yeah, but I bet UCF and all that world class speed would just chew it up....
And thanks for proving a very good point. Put UCF in a conference like the SEC and they would get the living hell beat out of them week in and week out. These guys would lose at least 4 games a year in that type of setting.
Yeah, but I bet UCF and all that world class speed would just chew it up....
And thanks for proving a very good point. Put UCF in a conference like the SEC and they would get the living hell beat out of them week in and week out. These guys would lose at least 4 games a year in that type of setting.
But wouldnt' they also recruit better, assuming your hypothetical situation were true?
A lot of this is just how potent the Orlando and surrounding areas (Tampa and Jacksonville) are in terms of HS talent.
Not that I will take the time, but I could go back and search your previous posts and I would not find 1 single negative post towards another team. Not 1?
It isn't just people here, or Nebraska fans that are "pissing" on UCF. It is most of the experts and most of the country. It doesn't take an expert to see they beat up on inferior team in an inferior league. The AAC would make 75% of the BIG10 teams look like champions.
I am not saying what they have a accomplished isn't special. It is, but does that give them an automatic pass to the front of the line? IF they were and any p5 league would they be on a 20+ game win streak? Take away the win streak and just go off the level of competition they have played, do they deserve a top 4 spot? I agree they deserve to be a top 15 team. Maybe a top 10. A top 4, not a chance.
Bama has played 4 ranked teams. Clemson 3. ND 4. Michigan 5. Georgia 4.Oklahoma 3. LSU 5. Washington St 2. UCF has play 1 and they were 25th. Hardly a comparison in competition level. I know some choose to ignore that fact, but the level of competition MUST factor into rankings and who gets in.
As it sits now, UCF doesn't play good enough competition to even sniff a top 4 spot. Doesn't matter if they have 100 wins in a row.
UCF's long win streak should not even be a factor. What they did last year is completely irrelevant to picking this year's playoff teams. By that standard you are considering a game played 15 months ago as a factor to choose the 4 best teams for this year. And if you are going to use what they did last year as a factor, then you should do so for every other team because otherwise you are using arbitrary criteria. I think you can make a few legitimate arguments for why UCF deserves to be in the playoff, but their 2 seasons long win streak is the weakest. Their win streak this year is all that matters.