Tyler Ulis waived by Suns

[Cindog28]

Seems it will already happen. Heck, someone like a Cuz type will in deed need a "whippin" at some point during the season.

https://goo.gl/images/tJcdLq

 

[Wall2Boogie]

I think ilia is good enough to continue to play in the nba. I do think for him to last, he has to get stronger he is short, but if he can put on more muscle he will have a much longer nba career. He will have to add weight to build that muscle. Someone get that man a box of pop tarts

 

[UKserialkiller]

I think ilia is good enough to continue to play in the nba. I do think for him to last, he has to get stronger he is short, but if he can put on more muscle he will have a much longer nba career. He will have to add weight to build that muscle. Someone get that man a box of pop tarts

As another poster posted. 7.8 pts. Limited minutes.

Kid is a 12-15 ppt 7-8 asst a game. Easy

 

[FrankUnderwood]

Hayes and Ulis are the 2 toughest Cats of the past 15-20 years.

Agreed. Cousins too

 

[FrankUnderwood]

I don't follow your post. In his twenties leaving UK he would have never got what he got in his late teens. He may never make it big in the NBA but the kid is making bank. What reasonable justification could anyone give him to wait? He only played two years and has made at least three million dollars... In comparison 75k for 30 years is 2,250,000.00. His money was made in about or less than 250 games of NBA ball. Come on, no justification for him to stay whatsoever.

This. He could literally retire at 23 and live comfortably without having to work another day in his life

 

[ColonelCat_rivals376764]

Hated to hear that. Hopefully another team will pick him up soon.

does the next team have to p.u. his remaining contract? I am dumb about all the NBA contracts and opt-outs

 

[BlueRunner11]

He should have stayed. Was not ready to go to the NBA. We see this all the time at Kentucky. He could have helped us win a championship but they always leave too early.

No way this is serious.

 

[BassProCat]

 

[BBUK_anon]

This. He could literally retire at 23 and live comfortably without having to work another day in his life

I like that some of the players live meagerly. I know a baseball player that makes 15 million a season and lives in a 150k home and drives a ford ranger. His wife drives a jeep cherokee. (We are not close but I have talked to him. He is a friend of a friend. He stated to my friend that once his playing days are over he will see what he has, then adjust his lifestyle to live until he's 85. He stated he'd pay his kids college and a good start but that was it. I wish more lived like that. It is a much happier life style.--Living below your means...

 

[wildcatsboston1984_rivals]

Dang some of you are already writing Ulis off as a has been at 22 years old. As I recall Nate Robinson didn’t come out of his draft class doing much better but he has made serious profit from his journeyman career. Ulis could do the same. Give the kid some time.

Nate Robinson is an elite athlete, or at least was, and was much better physically suited for the league than Ulis will ever be, given his athleticism and much stronger physical frame. Robinson was also a very good shooter the second he stepped on the court in the NBA. Shot 39.7% from three as a rookie.

 

[BBUK_anon]

Honey Hush.....

What's she got on now? Her mind...

 

[BBUK_anon]

What a day!! One can only hope. Heck, Ole TU may have to whip D Cuz, and AD in the same day. May even have to thumb Rondo in the eye. Oh Lordy he may even pile drive Miller,..

Don't do it Taz, go easy on the Cats...

 

[Jmeeks54thebest]

Robinson can jump out of the gym and had 20-30 pounds on Ulis.

Ulis is also 22 and has plenty of time to grow and improve his shot.

Robinson also took several years to develop.

I never said Ulis was going to be Nate Robinson. All I said was it is wayyyy too early to write Ulis off and used Robinson’s as a guy that many people wrote off due to his height but later developed. Unless you have an anti Ulis agenda I’m not sure why people are debating the notion that’s is too early to determine he’s not NBA material.

 

[drbubba]

Tyler will find a team, but when his playing days do end, I really hope he has a place on our bench as a coach.

 

[wildcatsboston1984_rivals]

I love Ulis, maybe my favorite Wildcat either, but I just don't see him as an NBA player for long. Advance metric for him are pretty bad.

Terrible offensive and defensive ratings, and they both got worse in his second year.

His box plus minus and value over replacement player are both very much in the negative, which is not good at all.

He only shot 43.8% on shots within 3 feet of the rim this year, which sadly was an improvement over the 40.9% as a rookie

NBA's advanced metrics have him allowing opponent field goal % 2.3% worse than the average. The only thing he wasn't worse than league average on was three pointers, but he still allowed 35.1% from there. From within six feet of the rim, the player he guarded shot 70.3%, which is 9.3 percentage points higher than league average. Basically get him near the rim and it's virtually automatic buckets, and at 5-9 and 160 lbs., he's not exactly going to be able to do much to prevent players from just bullying their way into the lane.

Can't shoot 3s, can't make layups, doesn't provide any resistance on defense. That's not an NBA player

 

[Jmeeks54thebest]

Nate Robinson is an elite athlete, or at least was, and was much better physically suited for the league than Ulis will ever be, given his athleticism and much stronger physical frame. Robinson was also a very good shooter the second he stepped on the court in the NBA. Shot 39.7% from three as a rookie.

And people wrote him off because he was short. Ulis can still make it by doing it a different way. He has to improve his shot, be a pesky defender, and be a good floor general on the offensive end.

Not every guy below 6’ has to be a carbon copy of Nate Robinson to make it in the NBA. I only used him as a comparison because, like Ulis, he was written off for his height.

 

[wildcatsboston1984_rivals]

Ulis is also 22 and has plenty of time to grow and improve his shot.

Robinson also took several years to develop.

I never said Ulis was going to be Nate Robinson. All I said was it is wayyyy too early to write Ulis off and used Robinson’s as a guy that many people wrote off due to his height but later developed. Unless you have an anti Ulis agenda I’m not sure why people are debating the notion that’s is too early to determine he’s not NBA material.

Nate Robinson was a double digit scorer his second year in the league at age 22. His rookie year scoring average was 1.5 points better than Ulis this past season, and he shot much more efficiently as well. Robinson had an above average PER his second year in the league at 15.2, Ulis came in at 10.1. His advanced metrics two years in are way better than what Ulis has produced. Robinson was a vastly superior NBA player through two years than Ulis has been. Comparing the two just because they are short is disingenuous and ignores the reality of the on-court production.

 

[Jmeeks54thebest]

Nate Robinson was a double digit scorer his second year in the league at age 22. His rookie year scoring average was 1.5 points better than Ulis this past season, and he shot much more efficiently as well. His advanced metrics two years in are way better than what Ulis has produced. Robinson was a vastly superior NBA player through two years than Ulis has been. Comparing the two just because they are short is disingenuous and ignores the reality of the on-court production.

Dude, chill out. You are comparing the players in ways that I never did. If you want to stretch the comparison that’s on you. I never said “Ulis will produce the same numbers as Robinson, just watch!”

All I said was Robinson is a great example of a guard who defied expectations and surpassed what everyone thought he would be. I think Ulis will develop enough to have a journeyman career as a back up PG and will develop into a decent outside shooter, pesky defender, and good floor general. I don’t expect and I don’t predict him to go on scoring streaks like Robinson did.

I am not comparing their on court production because they do not similar play styles. And no, that is not disingenuous. You are just arguing to argue.

 

[Wallins Creek cat]

Here goes the "He should have stayed" talk. No. He got paid very well now can go overseas or come back to finish his degree. But he did make a lot of money.

 

[BlueBlood66_rivals34314]

Ulis is also 22 and has plenty of time to grow and improve his shot.

Robinson also took several years to develop.

I never said Ulis was going to be Nate Robinson. All I said was it is wayyyy too early to write Ulis off and used Robinson’s as a guy that many people wrote off due to his height but later developed. Unless you have an anti Ulis agenda I’m not sure why people are debating the notion that’s is too early to determine he’s not NBA material.

Nate Robinson was brought up because of their similar height. My main point was even though they are similar in height, they arent really comparable physically. Robinson could play much bigger than his height. This is regardless of skill or experience.

 

[WitnessGreatness]

 

[brianpoe]

He should have stayed. Was not ready to go to the NBA. We see this all the time at Kentucky. He could have helped us win a championship but they always leave too early.

It doesn't follow that his stock would have been lower. Never thot he'd get that second contract that everyone hopes for.

He was a great 4 year college player that was a victim of the system. No other way to put it. His other choice was MSU where he definitely would have played 4 years.

This is why his stock would never have gotten higher without an insane late in life growth spurt.

• Consensus first-team All-American (2016)
• Bob Cousy Award (2016)
• SEC Player of the Year (2016)
• SEC Defensive Player of the Year (2016)
• First-team All-SEC (2016)

Probably the absolute smartest decision by any player we ever had leave because his chances of repeating these feats would have been extremely difficult.

Ulis' choice made as much or more sense than Anthony Davis leaving, as AD could have at least matched his previous accolades much easier than Tyler would.

Not sure why this isn't the most easiest thing to comprehend?

 

[FactCheckerUSA]

He got two years worth of NBA paychecks. Considering his size, that isn't bad.

 

[*Fox2Monk*]

Dang some of you are already writing Ulis off as a has been at 22 years old. As I recall Nate Robinson didn’t come out of his draft class doing much better but he has made serious profit from his journeyman career. Ulis could do the same. Give the kid some time.

Nate robinson could also cram on somebody's face.

 

[*Fox2Monk*]

This. He could literally retire at 23 and live comfortably without having to work another day in his life

**** go play in China for the next ten years, make 15 million bucks. Sign with Anta and make another 15 million.

 

[wildcatsboston1984_rivals]

**** go play in China for the next ten years, make 15 million bucks. Sign with Anta and make another 15 million.

The Chinese Basketball Association limits the number of international players that can play in their league. Each team but one can have two internationals, the one team that can't apparently can't have any for some reason.

 

[akaukswoosh]

He got two years worth of NBA paychecks. Considering his size, that isn't bad.

Yep. Still hoping he can make some more NBA money.

 

[chroix]

If he goes to the Pelicans and and they keep Boogie I might start watching the NBA.

 

[Chico&TheMan]

Tyler had a pretty good opportunity in Phoenix. I can't think of many other NBA teams that will be a better situation for him.

 

[Blueblood410]

And to nobody’s surprise, Booker is now mad at the Suns’ front office.

While I understand him and I’m upset at the Suns for cutting him; at the same time, it’s a business and life.

 

[Shaudylo]

Booker will probably get over it at some point .

 

[mbKat]

I would love for this to happen.

 

[Tapemaster8]

I hate to say it but, he only got drafted cos of Booker. His height will keep him overseas.
He is a great talent but his height, because of Booker the sun's took great risk.

Doubt it. He is NBA material. Some team will pick him up!

 

[WalterTheHippo]

This cut hurts as Ulis was one of my favorite Cats ever. I hope he catches on with a new team. He can run the point like no other. He is a facilitator.