Exactly. Hard to believe we've got some who weren't aware how bad our situation was. Tubby left because he knew it was over. Period.
Tubby's bubble about to bust..
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Exactly. Hard to believe we've got some who weren't aware how bad our situation was. Tubby left because he knew it was over. Period.
It is hysterical that Tubby danglers always give Tubby the credit for winning in 98 because he was the "coach on record" and also try to claim that Tubby landed Patterson even though he never signed him. [roll]Shows how desperate they are!
ALMOST everyone on this board admits that "it was time for Tubby to go" except for a few. I don't think some of them ever really let go.
Possibly. But it's been widely reported over time.
http://www.mlive.com/sports/saginaw/index.ssf/2012/06/draymond_green_of_michigan_sta_1.html
Yea I remember it being a verbal, but I'm not sure he was a guarantee here. Some think so that's fine.
We were still in a very bad position and I don't believe Patterson would have committed to UK especially with Green here. UK was headed or dark times. I just remember is seeming hopeless in Tubby's last year.
Yup, I remember the Kentucky's Shame SI that came out after Tubby went 22-10 and list in the 2nd round. The program was teetering on the edge of destruction at that point. You can't say the same about Sutton who left well oiled machine for Pitino.
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The players on the 1998 team to a man declared Pitino would not have won the Title they should know more than the dweebs on this post most of who never played College basketball
When you've been called racist for no reason ,other than complaining about not going to a final four for the longest stretch in history , wounds heal slowly. I NEVER make a negative comment about tubby until some tubby nut hugger gets on here and acts like he was a great coach. He was not .
As fashionable as it may be to bash/pick on Tubby for winning only one championship, that's still something only 48 other people have ever done. To put that in perspective, more men have went into outer space in the Mercury/Gemini/Apollo programs (1961-72) than have won a D1 NCAA men's basketball championship. So I may be in the minority here but I liked Tubby even up to the end and he served the highest office in the state of KY well and with distinction and class. I hope in 2018 he gets a jersey retired just like the other three non-active coaches that have won us at least one title.
He mainly just had bad luck, especially in 2003-05. Remember how in 24's sixth season Noah Daniels learned the hard way just how different things are when you're the one in the big chair? I doubt even the harshest Tubby critics would really know what to do if they really were in that big chair. Remember, that big chair is a LOT bigger than even the governor's!
Bad luck? I heard Jay Williams say out of his own mouth that he was all set to come to Ky until his father asked the tubster a question. "What percentage of your players graduate?"Ole tubster stammered around a bit and finally said "I'll have to get back to you with that" . As soon as they were gone Jays dad told him ,"you aren't going to play for that man ". That's just one instance of tubby not being prepared or organized . It wasn't bad luck .
forget titles y'all - we all know how hard it is to win a title.
But, what about final fours? TS never made one after 1998; if he was the coach he's being made out to be by some, here, he'd have made at least one during his 10 years here, right?
But, what about final fours? TS never made one after 1998; if he was the coach he's being made out to be by some, here, he'd have made at least one during his 10 years here, right?
After Pitino's players graduated, OTS had 2 Elite 8's in the last 18 years! Amazing stat considering there were threads on this board after he left claiming that Minnesota would go to a FF before UK would. The Tubby Danglers have a ton of egg on their faces but they are too dumb to know it.
I liked having TS at UK for the first 6-7 years...then I felt he started "mailing it in" and lost interest. That is when I felt that he needed to move on. Then we got this guy!
Boy those were some FUN years!!![laughing]
Boy those were some FUN years!!![laughing]
Only if the other option has asthma
Tubby had some awesome teams that gave me a lot of good memories. Sometimes the tournament is a lot of luck and tubster definitely had none of that. I hated where he had the program his last few years, but have grown to respect and appreciate him now that it's been almost a decade since he left.
What in the ever loving hell is this nonsense? Never do drugs and post. Its not good.
Rick couldn't win with those same players plus Mercer, Anderson, and Epps. Blah blah blah, same lame talking points over and over again.
These people think Tubby was worse for UK than Eddie Sutton, nothing else needs to be said about them.
What makes it worse was Tubby was wayyyy too long.
Still laughing at your insinuation that Tubby was worse for UK than Eddie Sutton. Tubby almost destroyed the program but Sutton didn't. This goes to show your bias and everyone sees it.
BTW, I'm not gonna let you change the subject.
No...Rick had Mercer, a legit 5 star, Epps, a consensus 3 star who he developed into the sr. p.g. you remember, and no Anderson, who was recovering from an ACL
You obviously didn't comprehend my post. We only had to put up with Sutton for 4 yrs and BCG for a couple years before they were sacked. We had to endure Tubby ball 10 yrs.
Oh I comprehended that nonsense. Im laughing at you for comparing that to the man who literally brought the program to its knees. I'm talking losing season, players leaving, postseason ban, no TV, Kentucky Shame, and you compared that to Tubby. That's ridiculous to anyone with a lick of common sense.
Get a life Tubby will be in the Naismith Hall of Fame and UK will hang a jersey it's already in the works..Book Em Danno
Hopefully, those HOF voters will ignore his last 10 years (counting this one). 4 NCAA tournament appearances with ONE win. 3 NIT's and 3 years without a postseason.
Maybe he will get credit for having his first winning season in conference in 10 years. Of course, the teams behind him in the AAC may not qualify for the NIT.
Tubby's HOF resume continues to look worse and worse each year. He needs to retire sooner than later so his overall record can look better.
First of all, those players wanted Billy Donovan to begin with. That was in the open.
on top of that, of course they'll say that. Rick will say that. Actually he's the one that got the nonsense started.
If you don't believe a two time national champion coach, who's been to 8/9? final fours, couldnt win a title with the 1998 Wildcats but Tubby freakin Smith can you're an idiot with an agenda. He had just made back to back title games, winning one, and that was HIS TEAM he left on the table. Don't be ridiculous. You're making yourself look foolish. In what universe does that even come close to making sense?
Wake me up when Tubby can compete and make a final four on his own, without the aid of another coach. He's going in the HOF, and I'm glad, but that's because they'll induct a ham sandwich.
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I know all the players on 98 team and Billy Donovan is ******** you read too many sports magazines.i probably know more about U.K. Basketball than you can dream up in your small mind but that's your problem..Also did you know that SCUMtino met Larry Ivy in Florida and tried to buy out Tubby's contract I thought so. Here's your ham sandwich don't choke on it Mamma Cass ...