I disagree , but thats OK . Auburn without their best player , And Wisc was good , very good , but we were great.
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I disagree , but thats OK . Auburn without their best player , And Wisc was good , very good , but we were great.
As much as I love Cal, there’s some truth to this. The performance and success has dropped off, but then again, it’d be hard to keep it at the level it was the first five years.
I think I read an article that said Wisconsin was statistically the best offensive team ever recorded that year with all the threes and inside scoring with kaminsky the only bad loss I would say we’ve had here recently is definitely Kansas State
Auburn elite 8, tonight, cals been letting some double digit leads piss away.
I disagree with Indiana, that team was two players deep and just wasn’t that good. Indiana White dude hit those two threes in the corner and that was that.
I lost all respect for what we “catlanta” offers after that kstate game. Fans were emotionless and thought kstate was gonna give it to em.
I disagree with Indiana, that team was two players deep and just wasn’t that good. Indiana White dude hit those two threes in the corner and that was that.
I lost all respect for what we “catlanta” offers after that kstate game. Fans were emotionless and thought kstate was gonna give it to em.
Since you brought up embarrassing tourney losses...lets talk about Duke and Kansas, the 2 teams you just mentioned.
2003 UK would’ve dismantled last year’s team. And 2017, too. 2005 was better than both, too.
Oh are we celebrating elite eight teams now?
agreed , I'm afraid we are lowering the bar for what we accept . How this year ends is really important . The teams are all average , we are more talented than most . Can Cal get to a FF ?
There is still time for this year. I know people don't want to hear it, but there is. There aren't any great teams in CBB. If we can get hot at right time stuff can change quickly.
You think the 2005 team was definitively better than the Fox and Monk team? Put the bottle down
A solution would be to change the culture. Stop making it about NBA draft picks ("most important night in UK basketball history!") And start making it about UK.
Stop fielding young teams that are less talented. These kids are playing "me ball". Know why? Because they are trying to get theirs so they can climb up the draft board.
Don’t you know? Cal is God; people literally put up a shrine here. Criticizing Cal with logic and facts is almost as bad as trashing Mohammed in a Mosque. See, you need to use emotion and feeling because logic is too difficult. Cal has not been to a FF since 2015 but don’t tell anyone.
I can concede this. Any other year I’d be convinced we were done. I think this needs to be a wake up call for Cal, but it’s not all on him.
I can’t totally blame him for some of the recruits being complete no shows. Literally ANY other year and their respective recruiting class would make this team great. Seriously, replace this class with any other and it would be one of the better teams here.
We had a damn good returning class of players. Our recruits have just added absolutely nothing.
Cal can't win without those super elite recruits such as Rose and Wall. Recruiting lately has been mediocre. Our past few teams have lacked that superstar talent that Cal's early teams had.
Lately we have been relying on 4 star recruits and grad transfers.
Lately we have been relying on 4 star recruits and grad transfers.
Basically tubby from '16 to date..Let me know when tubby gets the most wins and tournament wins and the most final foursopcorn:
Sure "bud." They're pretty similar. Here's how Tubby's teams between '03-'06 stack up against Cal's last four teams from '16-'19.
Losses to unranked teams:
Tubby: 15
Calipari:17
Final Fours:
Tubby:0
Calipari:0
Elite Eights:
Tubby: 2
Calipari: 2
NCAA Tournament victories:
Tubby: 8
Calipari: 9
Record vs. Top 25:
Tubby: 24-13
Calipari: 19-16
SEC Tournament titles:
Tubby: 2
Calipari: 3
Overall wins:
Tubby: 109
Calipari: 115
Looks pretty similar to me. Hope this helps, "bud."
Thats actually pretty eye opening. I didnt realize. Ive been emotional and salty on here this evening bbecause who amongst us wouldnt be. But then tomorrow morning we suck it up and move on to Arkansas.
But THAT......we are paying this guy $10 mil a year. Thats some flat out ********.
4 SEC titles, 1 tied for a fifth, 11 seasons. Its not OK.
There don't have to be suitable replacements in order to prove the current Coach isn't getting it done. If Cal can get a talented big man for next season, he likely will be able to out-talent the competition, that's been his bread and butter. Otherwise, it appears next year will be more of the same.
That's a lot of what happened tonight. Maxey got his, and then Hagans just HAD to get his, too. I couldn't believe he was posting up and begging for the ball. It was the next possession (or the one after I think) where Hagans got stuffed on a layup.
You judge your coach by his peers.
Name a coach that has outperformed Cal since 2016?
Sure we've had 2 avg seasons but 2017 and 2019 were both solid teams. This team will be as well
Name a coach that has outperformed Cal since 2016?
Sure we've had 2 avg seasons but 2017 and 2019 were both solid teams. This team will be as well
You’re using a selective few years just to push your little argument to call for Cal’s head. Tubby went to ONE FINAL FOUR in his tenure at UK (the year he won the title). Didn’t reach one after that. Calipari is 31-7 in the tournament in 10 years. What was Tubby’s record in March? Lets talk about what Tubby INHERITED his 1st year vs what Cal was coming into after the Gillispie debacle. He rose us from the dead immediately and made us a relevant contender again.
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The first half if Tubby’s tenure wasn’t horrible. He just got lazy and stopped recruiting
03’ and 05’ were two of Tubby’s best teams. And your saying they were equal to Cal’s worst teams. I totally agree
The more eye-opening comparison will be Cal and Joe Hall during their UK tenures. I’ve mentioned this last year. Cal has been treated as God-like and his run at UK as legendary. He’s basically Coach Hall with more swag. And it’s not a knock on Hall who is from my hometown. Good guy and a good coach.
Agree. Also, where is this info coming from? That is a lot of detail. Care to share source out of curiousity @Porky Pigskin33 ?
Wow. I can’t find it in me to give this post a like because there is nothing to like about it
You realize we have 1 title in 20 years as well right? lol
DING DING DING DING, we have a winner here. This is the whole problem as I see it.
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