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Brushy Bill

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My decision not to get vaxxed came from my understanding of what mRNA is, how it is translated into proteins and then realizing that they chose a toxic protein as the antigen.
 

Gunny46

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My decision not to get vaxxed come from a Israel study published in a left leaning article from Yahoo.

People are fed up. Normally I wouldn't want to get in the way of the far left destroying itself. However we can't as a country afford to keep going down this road. There won't be anything left to fix.

Let people decide for themselves what they think is best for their health. Help the elderly and get our country moving again. It will take liberals to conservatives to make that happen on this subject. If not the CCP and their allies win. Get our country moving again then we can go back to arguing amongst ourselves.
 

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People are fed up. Normally I wouldn't want to get in the way of the far left destroying itself. However we can't as a country afford to keep going down this road. There won't be anything left to fix.

Let people decide for themselves what they think is best for their health. Help the elderly and get our country moving again. It will take liberals to conservatives to make that happen on this subject. If not the CCP and their allies win. Get our country moving again then we can go back to arguing amongst ourselves.
That was basically my point. It was a liberal article that helped me decide against the vax . Just as many liberals are unvaccinated as Republicans. It is wrong in every way to force this on anyone especially kids. It is no more deadly than the flu .
 

Gunny46

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They can't do that with the limiting and outright censoring of information concerning the true nature of the "vaccines".

Correct. Everyone needs to keep calling their elected representatives and tell them to get on board with declassiffying that information and conducting investigations that get that information out. There will be people elected to the Congress and Senate pushing for it. They will need help. Make it known to local reps all the way up you demand it.
 

Boomboom521

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My decision not to get vaxxed came from my understanding of what mRNA is, how it is translated into proteins and then realizing that they chose a toxic protein as the antigen.
Thank you for being clear about your thought process. I will certainly research the reasoning behind the choice, and what are listed as the possible side effects of that choice.
 

Brushy Bill

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Thank you for being clear about your thought process. I will certainly research the reasoning behind the choice, and what are listed as the possible side effects of that choice.
Lucky for you I've got plenty of info on here to make your search easier.
 

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Yesterday you didnt even know about the incentives and you mocked me when I brought it up, but now today you appear to be an expert - that's really odd.

You don't really know **** but at least your confident with your ignorance.
He studied his primary source documents that he gives to his students. Remember.
 

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That was basically my point. It was a liberal article that helped me decide against the vax . Just as many liberals are unvaccinated as Republicans. It is wrong in every way to force this on anyone especially kids. It is no more deadly than the flu .
My decision to not get vaccinated goes to my personal beliefs about MY immune system. Since being an adult, and being able to make my own decisions (couldn't control what my parents had me take shots for as a child), I have never gotten a shot for the flu. I'm not anti-vax. I've said this until I'm blue in the face with people who try to label me that. I encouraged my wife and oldest child to get it. My youngest, I did not (too young for me to take a risk on an experiment).
 

Boomboom521

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He studied his primary source documents that he gives to his students. Remember.
Do you have some issue with students reviewing primary documents in a history course? I mean, I see you are trying to make me look foolish here, and certainly I am a fool on many occasions, but the primary documents thing, as it pertains to history? I dont get the putdown. Am I not doing a beneficial thing for my students to help them see perspectives at the time events occurred?
 

roadtrasheer

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My decision to not get vaccinated goes to my personal beliefs about MY immune system. Since being an adult, and being able to make my own decisions (couldn't control what my parents had me take shots for as a child), I have never gotten a shot for the flu. I'm not anti-vax. I've said this until I'm blue in the face with people who try to label me that. I encouraged my wife and oldest child to get it. My youngest, I did not (too young for me to take a risk on an experiment).
I was getting close to getting the jab . I kept reading different articles from all different sources, knowing that I eat healthy & I'm a healthy person I didn't really think I needed it nor do I trust it at this time . The articles showing studies from Israel solidified my opinion.
I come home from NJ was tested for antibodies & I apparently had covid at one time, no need for a vaccine. Fast forward to now I'm getting over covid19 was down for a week & doing great now , still thankful I depend on my God given immunity over needing a shot then booster's till I'm dead.
 

Boomboom521

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Here is a thing that doesnt make sense to me: you claim that financial motivation to lie is driving hospitals and doctors all over the world to manipulate statistics and lie, and that deepstate motivations have overtaken honorable public servants - but you take one doctor, who could be getting paid to put forth opinions that are NOT backed by peer reviewed studies. Same with climate change: “that one scientist on Exxon’s payroll has proven all other scientists wrong with his invalidated study”.

Why do you assume these docs and scientists you post are not motivated by money, like you claim all others to be?
 

MountaineerWV

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Do you have some issue with students reviewing primary documents in a history course? I mean, I see you are trying to make me look foolish here, and certainly I am a fool on many occasions, but the primary documents thing, as it pertains to history? I dont get the putdown. Am I not doing a beneficial thing for my students to help them see perspectives at the time events occurred?
No, not at all.
 

Brushy Bill

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Here is a thing that doesnt make sense to me: you claim that financial motivation to lie is driving hospitals and doctors all over the world to manipulate statistics and lie, and that deepstate motivations have overtaken honorable public servants - but you take one doctor, who could be getting paid to put forth opinions that are NOT backed by peer reviewed studies. Same with climate change: “that one scientist on Exxon’s payroll has proven all other scientists wrong with his invalidated study”.

Why do you assume these docs and scientists you post are not motivated by money, like you claim all others to be?
Because the Drs. that speak out against the "vaccine" are censored and cancelled for speaking the truth.
 

Boomboom521

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Because the Drs. that speak out against the "vaccine" are censored and cancelled for speaking the truth.
Nah, they are censored and cancelled, because they speak before being validated- which is kind of a big deal in the scientific community.
 

MountaineerWV

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Then why attack my ability as an educator? I take it seriously, and enjoy legit feedback (esp from conservative parents). So what specifically do you have a problem with my approach to the classroom?
I’m not a conservative buddy. I’m a liberal. The liberal minded that once stood for personal freedoms and protection from government control.
 

Gunny46

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Because the Drs. that speak out against the "vaccine" are censored and cancelled for speaking the truth.

Time may prove "truth". However them being canceled made people skeptical. Peer reviewed will never be the same going forward.
 

Brushy Bill

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Nah, they are censored and cancelled, because they speak before being validated- which is kind of a big deal in the scientific community.

It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled. -Mark Twain

You are a fool.
 

atlkvb

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Yesterday you didnt even know about the incentives and you mocked me when I brought it up, but now today you appear to be an expert - that's really odd.

You don't really know **** but at least your confident with your ignorance.


Say Bruh, did you read how @Darth_VadEER straight up called out @Boomboom521 in post #114 of this thread????? I mean just Daaaauuuum!!!!!! :oops:
 
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atlkvb

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He studied his primary source documents that he gives to his students. Remember.
His research is "more American" than anyone else's don't 'ya know? So don't send him any data from Europe or Israel documenting much of what's been mentioned in this thread. He won't read any of it since it's not "All American" like he is in the Big 12! 🤣

I wouldnt call my opinion “superior”, but i would call my opinion more American. Mostly because mine isnt rooted in judgement and hate.
 
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atlkvb

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I know what I read, and I posted, why attack me? Not an expert, didnt claim to be one, and took your assertions as serious and researched it — but that warrants you comin wit all the huffy puffy…..pfffft…..just trying to make me look like an arrogant elitist, because it makes more sense in your head?
 

atlkvb

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Just because you cant prove fraud, doesnt mean a fraud took place. Most docs take their job, and what it means for our nation, more serious than you think they do.
This is EXACTLY why you and so many other Leftists still think Trump colluded with the Russians. No evidence found don't 'ya know....but that doesn't mean it didn't happen. That's the sole basis for your argument rejecting the Nunes memo. He didn't disprove it, therefore it must be true.

 

Darth_VadEER

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He studied his primary source documents that he gives to his students. Remember.

He studies late, by the glimmer of candle-light, frequently removing his opticals to rub his weary eyes....before diving back into his research.

Staring aimlessly out his window as snow falls gently upon the sill, he ponders...

What secrets have I yet to mull?

As the thought consumes him, he scribbles into his parchment with his quill. Leaning back, and happy with his work, he listens to the gentle tick tock of his old grandfather clock.

Too many nights slumped at this desk, leather bound book as my pillow.
 

dave

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They can't do that with the limiting and outright censoring of information concerning the true nature of the "vaccines".
That isn't the worst crime here. The censoring of information regarding existing drugs and the anti viral qualities of the drugs that work as treatment against Covid has probably killed more people than the vaccines.
 

Brushy Bill

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killed more people than the vaccines.
So far. The death toll from the "vaccines" is going to increase with time and increase even more with added boosters. The "vaccines" are literally decimating the immune and circulatory systems of those people who get them.
 

dave

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So far. The death toll from the "vaccines" is going to increase with time and increase even more with added boosters. The "vaccines" are literally decimating the immune and circulatory systems of those people who get them.
Vaccines will hurt some people but the damage won't be long term.
 

Brushy Bill

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Vaccines will hurt some people but the damage won't be long term.
I've got a plethora of virologists, microbiologists, immunologists M.D.'s and other researchers as well as one of the inventors of mRNA technology who say otherwise. If the mRNA reverse transcribes itself into your DNA it becomes a permanent source of spike protein production for the rest of your life. There is going to be a rise in autoimmune diseases because your innate immune system will start seeing a part of you as "not self" and target it for irradiation. This will be amplified with each new dose taken. Like I've said, if you've taken the jab then get off the train now while the damage is minimal.
 

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Then why attack my ability as an educator? I take it seriously, and enjoy legit feedback (esp from conservative parents). So what specifically do you have a problem with my approach to the classroom?

Lols that "educator" gets me everytime...

Tell me you think you're important without actually saying it...