If you had a positive test and die within 28 days, it’s listed as a “Covid death”. So death within 28 days of any positive test gets them extra federal money kickbacks for the hospitals.
Trust the Science
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Imagine that? A grown *** man who TEACHES KIDS no less and he can't "follow the money" on this Covid fear porn scam?
Unreal.
Say it ain't so? Hospitals altering their Covid statistics to bank extra coin?
Nah!
Maybe he will use the primary sources and come to his own conclusion............who am I kidding? :joy:
Your excellent questions to him (which he mostly avoided answering) should remove all doubt as to his lack of seriousness or sincerity pursuing what he self promotes as an unbiased search for Truth.
I'm unimpressed.
I dont pretend to know as an educator. If there is a question that I dont know, it is an opportunity to research an answer as a class, imo. I teach content to benchmarks as assigned by the State, but I try to always bring different perspectives into discussion. But yes, I think teaching does take some guts.
Now let's do the vaccine. If you have any comorbidities & get the vaccine it wont be counted as a vax death but what ever you had killed you .
Which is also why the method of treatment in a lot of hospital is very suspicious to me.
So, I have read some on this specific issue this am, because it is certainly a very serious issue. From what Ive gathered, it stems mostly from an interview with Minn State Senator Jansen on FOX. The numbers listed are pretty accurate under the legislation passed for our COVID response. However, that Senator was specifically asked of he thought hospitals are purposely miscoding deaths, and he said no. He also said he believes there could surely be instances of the undercounting of deaths as well, not accounting for those not diagnosed, or deaths at home.
I agree these types of financial incentives are dangerous, but there is also a cost of misclassification as well - potential lawsuits and the distortion of effective COVID analysis and policy impacts can weigh just as heavy as financial incentive for many docs.
And I dont believe that hospital administrators can change COD, or dictate to a physician how to classify a death. From what I have seen firsthand, Docs have a lot of weight in the hospitals.
I agree these types of financial incentives are dangerous, but there is also a cost of misclassification as well - potential lawsuits and the distortion of effective COVID analysis and policy impacts can weigh just as heavy as financial incentive for many docs.
And I dont believe that hospital administrators can change COD, or dictate to a physician how to classify a death. From what I have seen firsthand, Docs have a lot of weight in the hospitals.
I'm beginning to think you're right. I used to think he was simply naïve but I don't think that's plausible at this point.
Bill Maher torches Sotomayor for botching COVID facts: 'That's really ignorant for a Supreme Court justice'
The HBO star also calls out AOC for going to Florida and wonders why Kyrie Irving can't play home games
Bill usually calls out the left when they act hypocritical which is commendable. His continued belief in progressivism as a viable political movement is not commendable, however.
He's a liberal. He's not a Neo-Marxist. We disagree on alot. However I will give him a hat tip for doing the above and disagree with him on the other things. Liberals that don't want to listen to you should pay attention to what he's been calling out though.
Just because you cant prove fraud, doesnt mean a fraud took place. Most docs take their job, and what it means for our nation, more serious than you think they do.
That guy will essentially ignore anything that doesn't conform to his pre determined narratives. He will treat the information anyone offers as if it never existed, yet maintain his elevated self anointed expansive analysis of the issue beyond the narrow perspective you may try to urge him to consider.
Translation: He's an unadulterated arrogant fraud.
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If you were a German in the 1940's you'd have said Hitler didn't mean it when he said kill all the Jews. And Dr. Mengle is performing scientific experiments that will advance mankind for generations to come.
Look, I am a born and raised Mountaineer. I started visiting this site when Rodriguez was coach to try and get inside info on coaching rumors from the Mountains, while living in Florida.
I enjoy debating and discussing national issues. I enjoy trying to understand thought processes different than my own, I enjoy practicing interaction with “parents” (esp conservatives), so it can make me better at my job.
I am naive, I am surely misinformed on some issues, I am surely wrong on some issues and stances I take. I am an American. I am a husband, I am a father. I am a Bengals fan. I am a golfer.
My family comes first, then the nation, then the planet. I try to be good at anything I do. I succeed. I fail.
Cut the phony act boom....your whole "MO" is trying to set yourself up as inherently knowing more than anyone else or at least being more anxious to understand beyond what anyone thinks they know about anything!
But you can't honestly answer a simple question that's already proven what you know to be factually true like the Democrats and Hillary fabricated the entire Russian collusion scam and then lied about it trying to frame Trump for it by illegally spying on him. You can't even admit all of that is true can you?
Didn't think so.
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I believe some of this is true. You are a dedicated Family man, a loyal Mountaineer fan, a faithful Patriot, and for the most part sincere in your desire to at least inquire beyond your knowledge base.
However what you won't/can't admit to is your unbridled arrogance, and steadfast devotion at the end of the day to Leftist ideology even in the face of irrefutable evidence of its unmitigated failure.
You will NEVER admit when folks on the Left such as yourself are wrong and discredited. You won't even admit you ARE on the Left! That's fine, but don't come on here trying to act like you don't know when you're wrong, when it's been proven to you that you are. As I said earlier ITT, I find you amusing if not altogether boring with your self deprecating act.
Still you have every right to be here expressing your views, so carry on. You add to the levity of this place no doubt!
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Yesterday you didnt even know about the incentives and you mocked me when I brought it up, but now today you appear to be an expert - that's really odd.
You don't really know **** but at least your confident with your ignorance.
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I said “read some on the subject this am” - “from what I gathered” - and “I dont believe”
if those are lines you usually hear from “experts” you reference, get new experts.
I know what I read, and I posted, why attack me? Not an expert, didnt claim to be one, and took your assertions as serious and researched it — but that warrants you comin wit all the huffy puffy…..pfffft…..just trying to make me look like an arrogant elitist, because it makes more sense in your head?
Do you understand what a peer reviewed article is, and why it matters in any legitimate study? I am not trying to be condescending with that question. I was unaware of how important methodology was to the credibility of a study before college.
A person can make a “study” say whatever they want it to, when the methodology isnt sound. When an article is peer reviewed, methodology as well as the data and conclusions are confirmed as valid.
A person can make a “study” say whatever they want it to, when the methodology isnt sound. When an article is peer reviewed, methodology as well as the data and conclusions are confirmed as valid.
However, it should be noted that the public is largely unaware of how the process works, and what it does and doesn’t mean. Even highly-educated non-scientists can assume, wrongly, that “peer review” means that the results of a paper have somehow been checked, or replicated, before it has been accepted for publication.
My decision not to get vaxxed come from a Israel study published in a left leaning article from Yahoo.