Trump and Desantis

Gunny46

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Agreed. Trump is making a huge mistake.

He Definitely needs to stop the personal attacks on DeSantis. Praise him and say he thinks he would make a great potential running mate that would give the Republicans 12 years in the White House. His advisors need to do the math and beat it in his head.

However I'm supporting whoever wins. Don't allow the Democrats to divide and conquer. It's politics so it will get ugly. Just make sure we huge it out when it's over and support the winner.

If not Biden has already said he plans on changing nothing. That means the New Democrat Party controlled by WEF, Marxist, Progressives, and the CCP plan on making it a lot worse for you. That means you're getting GCBDC. You lose all freedoms when that happens.
 

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He Definitely needs to stop the personal attacks on DeSantis. Praise him and say he thinks he would make a great potential running mate that would give the Republicans 12 years in the White House. His advisors need to do the math and beat it in his head.

However I'm supporting whoever wins. Don't allow the Democrats to divide and conquer. It's politics so it will get ugly. Just make sure we huge it out when it's over and support the winner.

If not Pedo-Joe has already said he plans on changing nothing. That means the New Democrat Party controlled by WEF, Marxist, Progressives, and the CCP plan on making it a lot worse for you. That means you're getting GCBDC. You lose all freedoms when that happens.

Absolutely. Don't get me wrong. Whomever winds up being the nominee, I'll be voting for them. I'm just saying, right now, everyone loves DeSantis. It isn't smart of Trump to be bashing him. Trumps is looking like he's jealous and I'm not so sure he isn't.
 

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He Definitely needs to stop the personal attacks on DeSantis. Praise him and say he thinks he would make a great potential running mate that would give the Republicans 12 years in the White House. His advisors need to do the math and beat it in his head.

However I'm supporting whoever wins. Don't allow the Democrats to divide and conquer. It's politics so it will get ugly. Just make sure we huge it out when it's over and support the winner.

If not Biden has already said he plans on changing nothing. That means the New Democrat Party controlled by WEF, Marxist, Progressives, and the CCP plan on making it a lot worse for you. That means you're getting GCBDC. You lose all freedoms when that happens.
Nobody turns out the opposing vote like Trump, except Hilliary. Please, for the love of God, don't let Trump run.
 

Airport

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Trump is circling the toilet. I doubt he makes it much into the primaries if he runs. Typical narcissist behavior when you realize you've lost your power.


I do not understand what is going on with him. He's definitely a candidate for psychiatric help.
 

Gunny46

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Absolutely. Don't get me wrong. Whomever winds up being the nominee, I'll be voting for them. I'm just saying, right now, everyone loves DeSantis. It isn't smart of Trump to be bashing him. Trumps is looking like he's jealous and I'm not so sure he isn't.

Neither is going to win without the others supports. I would prefer they be on the same ticket. I even believe DeSantis would get more accomplished. However I agree he needs to knock the **** off now. It's not a winning strategy. Was listening to the local station this morning. He won big here both times. He has alot of supporters in the area. A lot of them were calling in saying they want him to run. But they all agreed he needs to STFU and take the high road with DeSantis. Like I said above. Just simply say he thinks he would make a great potential running mate and tell everyone what he plans on doing differently.

If he doesn't take that advice he probably isn't going to win or definitely won't become President again.
 

atlkvb

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I think Trump sees how effective DeSantis is and is trying to discourage him from going head-to-head for the GOP Presidential nomination. Trashing him won't help with GOP primary voters because DeSantis is the working version of what we all wanted in Trump!
 

atlkvb

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Are you voting for DeSantis over California Newsome, Harris, and Dementia Joe? If not. Nobody should care about your feelings on the Republican nomination.
He'll vote for DeSantis "in theory" but he can't explain the "theory" to you. :rolleyes:
 

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I think Trump sees how effective DeSantis is and is trying to discourage him from going head-to-head for the GOP Presidential nomination. Trashing him won't help with GOP primary voters because DeSantis is the working version of what we all wanted in Trump!
Personality we want. My wife and I are at odds over this. I told her, his senate candidates underperformed compared to the governors. Hershel needs to get Kemp and Desantis to help him campaign.
 
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Gunny46

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Trump is circling the toilet. I doubt he makes it much into the primaries if he runs. Typical narcissist behavior when you realize you've lost your power.



Maga, American First, and other Republicans need to work together. Don't and Democrats will win. It's that simple. Maga Candidates aren't going to win everywhere. In some places it will take both. Others it will take moderates.

It's why Mitch McConnell needs to go. He's not a unifier.
 

atlkvb

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Personality we won't. My wife and I are at odds over this. I told her, his senate candidates underperformed compared to the governors. Hershel needs to get Kemp and Desantis to help him campaign.
I don't think it's anything to worry about right now...Trump just knows it's not going to be as easy to dispatch DeSantis as he did some of those other challengers in '16! It's all about his (Trump's) huge ego right now, but if things break the way we all hope they'll form a partnership and DeSantis will be his Veep. We'll clean up with that ticket!
 

cam_blev

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Maga, American First, and other Republicans need to work together. Don't and Democrats will win. It's that simple. Maga Candidates aren't going to win everywhere. In some places it will take both. Others it will take moderates.

It's why Mitch McConnell needs to go. He's not a unifier.
Honest question, is there a difference between MAGA Republicans and American First Republicans? If so what is the it?
 

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Honest question, is there a difference between MAGA Republicans and American First Republicans? If so what is the it?
A little, but only if you’re in the middle of it. To the outside? No.

I’m an American First person and make no apologies regardless of who is in charge. MAGA assumes Trump has to lead the party.
 

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Absolutely. Don't get me wrong. Whomever winds up being the nominee, I'll be voting for them. I'm just saying, right now, everyone loves DeSantis. It isn't smart of Trump to be bashing him. Trumps is looking like he's jealous and I'm not so sure he isn't.
I will not vote for Trump. Only reason I voted for him during presidential campaign was because Biden has Dementia.

Common early symptoms of dementia
  • memory loss.
  • difficulty concentrating.
  • finding it hard to carry out familiar daily tasks, such as getting confused over the correct change when shopping.
  • struggling to follow a conversation or find the right word.
  • being confused about time and place.
  • mood changes.
A person in later stages of Dementia may get worse slowly over many months. During this time they will usually:

  • become more frail
  • have more frequent falls
  • have problems eating, drinking and swallowing
  • become less mobile
  • sleep more
This is Biden. Liberals are in denial.
 

atlkvb

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Trump values loyalty above all else...I think he wants to see DeSantis acknowledge that he (Trump) is the leader of the GOP. DeSantis by his own admission follows no one, or is beholden to no one! So therein lies your dispute. Ideologically they do not differ, but as a matter of fact neither is afraid of the other.

I personally think it sets up for a delicious fight if DeSantis want to run. Trump is just pissed he'll really have to earn the GOP nomination if DeSantis decides to challenge him. Remember Reagan in 1976? He was battling the GOP's leadership against their "establishment" candidate Bob Dole. Damn near ripped the party apart and led to Jimmy Carter. Same thing here. Trump wants to be the unchallenged leader of the GOP (he is) but DeSantis has plenty of clout too because he's been such a good Governor. Trump knows it too.

As I said, if they're smart, they'll have a nice sit down and combine forces to make us an unstoppable force. I hope that's how it turns out anyway because we need both.
 

cam_blev

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If this is the difference the best thing that could happen is for Trump to lose to DeSantis.
Kill the hero and follow the ideas
 

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We hate Socialism.
 

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Now MSM is taking up Trump's cause.


MSM and the Dems will fund Trump. They desperately want Trump to run.

It's going to take the base of the party standing up in the primaries and saying "No" to him.

2 years is a long time, and hopefully he'll realize he's becoming a pariah in his own party, but I doubt it. He'll run, the far reaches of the base will nominate him, he'll lose worse this go round as moderates will stay home.
 

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MSM and the Dems will fund Trump. They desperately want Trump to run.

It's going to take the base of the party standing up in the primaries and saying "No" to him.

2 years is a long time, and hopefully he'll realize he's becoming a pariah in his own party, but I doubt it. He'll run, the far reaches of the base will nominate him, he'll lose worse this go round as moderates will stay home.

It's 2016 all over again.
 

cam_blev

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The way I see it. The truth is that the Dems always overblew Trumps importance because they never understood the reasons people liked him. Now they built their entire platform on "TRUMP BAD" when in reality he was the dam holding back the real underlying movement.
 

Gunny46

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The way I see it. The truth is that the Dems always overblew Trumps importance because they never understood the reasons people liked him. Now they built their entire platform on "TRUMP BAD" when in reality he was the dam holding back the real underlying movement.

They are going treat DeSantis the same way. So screw them I hope they get 4 more years of Trump and 8 of DeSantis. With both the House and Senate.

When Democrats stop appointing Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer as their leaders and tell the Marxist to go form their own Party then we can talk. Until then I have no desire to work with them.

McConnell can go with them. He's part of the problem too.
 

atlkvb

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The NY Post seems to be turning against Trump, given the “Trumpty-Dumpty” front page.
You folks on the Left can't stop Trump on your own with your better ideas, so now you're piling on any Conservatives you can find criticizing him just so you can hopefully get rid of him. That won't work either, and it's pretty lame too when you think of it. Trump has you folks absolutely terrified.