Do my eyes deceive me? UK is ranked higher than Duke in the net rankings. After last nights win, the Cats moved up to 29 from 35. Duke is 30 moving down from 29. The world is righteous once again.
Todays Net Ranking
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I can't make any sense out of the NET ratings system.
I think it really puts a lot of weight on road wins and it seems it doesn’t really matter who that road team is that you beat.
Duke jumped up after beating Syracuse. Syracuse is pretty awful.
Heck, I bet uNC jumped way up after their eeked out 2 point win over quad 4 Notre Dame last night.
I think it really puts a lot of weight on road wins and it seems it doesn’t really matter who that road team is that you beat.
Duke jumped up after beating Syracuse. Syracuse is pretty awful.
Heck, I bet uNC jumped way up after their eeked out 2 point win over quad 4 Notre Dame last night.
We also have a higher SOS, OOC SOS, better record in Quad 1 wins and yet they are seeded 2-3 lines higher than we are in most projections.
Also Kenpom UK 32nd Duke 36th
We are trending up, they are trending down.
Not that it matters a whole lot tho lol.
We are trending up, they are trending down.
Not that it matters a whole lot tho lol.
So by the facts presented here Lunardi probably has Duke at at 6/7 and us as a 9/10. Can't wait to see his garbage come out. My daily dose of humor.
Yes.
I mean it's not a one to one relationship (ie, number 1 in NET is number 1 overall etc) but the team sheets they get has the NET number and all figures on that sheet is based off the NET figures (ie whats consider a Q1 win etc)
Lets not forget about little brother. Clawed their way up 2 spots from #307 to #305. There's still time left in the season.
Yes. And it is the ONLY ranking system the committee uses.
So..... what you're saying is that .. there's a CHANCE ??
But yet Duke is three lines ahead of us on most brackets.
That Duke is much higher than UK on brackets is ridiculous. Not necessarily because UK is a great team as much as Duke isn’t better than UK by any measure.
Agreed. The thing that drives me nuts are the quad wins. As I understand it if you beat a quad 1 team in November and by February they are quad 2, you no longer get the quad 1 win.
Makes no sense to me....IMHO it should just be what it is when you play them and that's it. Quads cannot possibly factor in injuries, etc.
I was listening to Lunardi a couple of weeks ago when he still had UNC in his bracket. One of the announcers asked him why he still had them making the tourney. He said it wasn't that he believed they belonged but what he thought the committee would do because of UNC's name recognition. So basically he was saying the committee was biased and didn't always put the teams who deserved to be there in the tournament.
I think many of those bracket guru types are in for a rude awakening come selection Sunday. Then again, they do tend to give us the shaft.We also have a higher SOS, OOC SOS, better record in Quad 1 wins and yet they are seeded 2-3 lines higher than we are in most projections.
So that is why Lunardi bumped Duke a seed line after they beat U of L?
Yeah that is my point. I'm not saying as of today we deserve a 6 seed but more so that Duke doesn't either.
Doesn't surprise me at all. Name recognition is probably a "hidden" variable in NET rankings. There's no such thing as true objectivity in seeding.
Well, of course! Where have you been?! Been wondering about you.I see you still have avatar pics going on brother.
Had some family issues over the past year and haven’t been posting since the beginning of last March. Trying to get back in the swing of things now. Thanks for asking.
The problem with what someone is ranked in Net when you play them is the that model will not be accurate at all early in the season when it doesn’t have enough data. Also what would you do for everyone’s first game of the season when no team has any metrics going into it.
Not sure, they don't pay me to figure it out
.I get what you are saying, I just think it is moronic to have a quad 1 and then it tanks a week or two later because a team goes cold or something.
It certainly isn't a perfect system, seems broken tbh.
Yeah it’s odd to try and follow. At the end of the day, none of it really matters- the committee will seed based off of match ups, storylines, and ratings.Not sure, they don't pay me to figure it out
I get what you are saying, I just think it is moronic to have a quad 1 and then it tanks a week or two later because a team goes cold or something.
It certainly isn't a perfect system, seems broken tbh.
What a difference 8 days makes. We all woke up 8 days ago with Kentucky around 40 NET with 1 quad 1 win coming off a loss to Georgia in our previous game and pretty much most everyone saying Kentucky was in the first 4 out.
8 days later we wake up today with 5 quad 1 wins and a NET of 29 and pretty much everyone saying Kentucky is a near lock for the tournament short of a complete disaster ending of losing like 4 straight.
What we really need is Duke to hang around 30 or below so it UNC beats them the final game they drop to below 30 NET and UNC only gets a quad 2 win out of it.
8 days later we wake up today with 5 quad 1 wins and a NET of 29 and pretty much everyone saying Kentucky is a near lock for the tournament short of a complete disaster ending of losing like 4 straight.
What we really need is Duke to hang around 30 or below so it UNC beats them the final game they drop to below 30 NET and UNC only gets a quad 2 win out of it.
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