Title or Bust Mentality for 2019
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2010: Scheyer was an all-American. Smith was very good and was an all-American the next year. Singler played in the NBA.
2011: Kemba was an all-American and several of the other players were good and played in the NBA.
2013: Russ was an all-american and there were at least a few other NBA guys on that team.
2014: Napier was an all-american
2015: Ohkafor was an all-American, multiple guys still in the NBA.
Villanova and UNC have multiple all-Americans and pros over the last few years.
We don’t have someone who is considered a sure fire NBA stud. We don’t even have anyone who I’m confident in being a consensus all-American.
You seem to be arguing we could rather than we should, which I agree with. The deck is not nearly stacked enough in our favor for me to say we should.
Based on his stats being on a highly ranked team Reid can be an AA. P.J. can absolutely be and A.A. this year. Plus one of our freshman always plays at a level that puts them in the discussion and we are not short on NBA picks.
Stanford has sucked since Travis has been there. He puts up numbers, we’ll find out how good he actually is. You’re being optimistic with PJ.
For everyone else, it remains to be seen, but it definitely doesn’t seem to be expected.
All the homers at it now, they will never learn. No one knows how the players will fit. We could really be good, not a dominate team no stars, even non homer knows this except the idiots on here , they are putting big bullseye on our team, first couple games we lose them same idiots will be saying we suck .
We have 8 titles in the history of the program...if it's title or bust, odds are you will go away mad again. All I ever ask for is a Final Four and then see what happens.
I could argue about our guys but then you'll pull the "we really don't know because we haven't seen these guys play"
I've seen what Calipari can do with talent and experience.
We are bringing in one of the best seniors in the country in Reid Travis. How often have we seen a player here average 20 ppg...? Monk, Murray, and Meeks....averaging 20 a game in college against a major conference schedule is hard.
PJ Washington would have been drafted this year....not first round but was a high 2nd rounder...thats pretty talented.
Quade was a good player as a freshman....you don't think he will be much better?
Richards could arguably be our 8th-10th man off the bench and he's a 7 footer with potential that started all last season.
Not to mention Jemarl Baker....a luxury that could end up being a sold contributor off the bench if he is the real deal.
Add in the #2 class....which is a close #3 behind a class that brought in the 3 top players....and our freshman generally perform well under Calipari.
EJ, Keldon, Hagans, Quckley, and Herro...and guess what....we dont need all of them to be great...odds are that we have a few really good ones in that group.
Because it's well-reasoned and contains context, perspective and rational thought.
I would think Coach K would be too after that amazing class last year. Plus wouldn’t you agree K did a horrible coaching job with that class?
We have seen already that K is not even close to Cal in the ability to recruit and coach up OAD players. K will struggle this year as well. OAD is not K's strength.
I will agree anything less than the final four would be devastating. I hope this is the year, I hate to say title or bust because so much can happen, but it kind of feels like it. Let's just hope for a team that leaves it all out there, plays hard and together and puts on a show this year. (But yes please bring #9 home)
Travis has the handles and potential as a shooter to at least hit 34%. They could be a similar duo to Nova last year with Paschell and Spellman. Better duo talent but not as good shooter since Spellman shot over 40% if I’m not mistaken. Also remember UNC won it with Meeks and Hicks down low and neither of them could stretch the floor. If you use them the right way (coaching) things could work out very well.
We have had a bunch of guys who could put up 20 ppg if they were on bad teams and could shoot a lot.
PJ’s draft position is a complete guess on your part.
Quade was fine, he’d have to improve an unrealistic amount to be anything close to great. Same with Richards. At least by next year anyway.
I’m sure at least a few of the freshman end up pretty good by the end of the year, but we don’t have the top end talent our best teams have had. It’s a weak class and we missed out on the “can’t miss guys”.
You are trying to put title or bust expectations on this group. That type of expectation should be reserved for teams that could potentially be historically great. I don’t see it.
They were All Americans AFTER the season. How many of them were AllAmericans before the season.....which means they are in the same category as UK right now correct? If you go check you will find that UK is in a better starting point as far as where those guys started in the preseason. Oak was probably the only preseason AA. Reid was already going to start out on ge preseason AA list before deciding to transfer and he was also going to be on the preseason POY short list according to all the respected college basketball sports media
So wouldn’t that mean he will be even better now since he won’t have to worry about being doubled and tripled every single game? Also add in going from being coached by J.Hass to being coached by Cal!!!
Now see!! If we try hard enough we can find something we can agree on.
The dude has yet to hit even 30% from 3 or 70% from the ft line. Expecting him to suddenly become even average is very optimistic.s
Stanford was going to suck again, no way he’s an all-American if he stays, much less POY.
Not necessarily. There are plenty of players whose ceiling is “good stats on a bad team”. They put up numbers but don’t actually improve how much your team wins. Not saying that’s Travis, but it’s a possibility.
Nothing he could have done against the rooferee short of a homicide on national TV.
A final four is a reasonable goal and I’d be happy with that
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We had the lead with what, 5 minutes left? The appropriate officiating complaints are all based on what happened in the 1st half. They made some plays down the stretch and we didn’t.
We might have had a lead if not for the first half calls, UNC may not have been in position to make the plays. Those calls still count and determined the outcome, it set the stage for what did happen.
Like most others I expect a Final Four. As a realist leaning toward pessimism I can't say I have expected that in a couple of years so it's pretty exciting. I'll be satisfied as long as they don't play down to inferior competition when it matters most.
If all fouls were erased and reset to zero at halftime, you would have a point. Unfortunately, the fouls carry over to the second half and effect the rest of the game.
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