This Orlando shooting is sickening...

[jdbulldog]

Baseball, football....whatever.

 

[57stratdawg]

No doubt. US citizen of Afghan decent.

 

[maroonwhitedawg3ddd]

Yes this is awful news!!

This day and age is getting scary and disturbing. Everyday it's something worse then the next it seems! I pray for the victims family..

 

[thatsbaseball]

FBI saying they suspect "Islamic terrorism"

 

[ronpolk]

This thread is sure to get locked but the problem is our 17n politicians. Republicans want to blame radical Islam and democrats want to blame guns. They are both to blame and we need people to quit being so concerned with party lines and fix a 17n problem. There is no reason why anyone, law abiding or otherwise, should not have to go through a detailed and rigorous background check to purchase any gun, especially an assault rifle. There should be a waiting period. I'm not saying ban them cause I'm pro gun but **** make it harder. And democrats need to recognize that radical Islam is a problem. I don't wanna profile anyone anymore than we have to but damn it's time to admit that we got a damn a problem and it's not just guns.

 

[coach66]

The Islam issue is going to get much worse. The nuts are in control of that

Religion.

 

[EngDawg]

If the media would stop reporting this stuff, it would go away. Of course they won't stop because "If it bleeds it leads."

 

[thatsbaseball]

Pressure cooker bombs anyone ? Background checks for pressure cookers ?

 

[Requiem For A Dawg]

All of what you are wanting is already in place. Even so, do you think criminals legally obtain guns most instances?

 

[thatsbaseball]

Also

"Investigators identified the gunman as 29-year-old Omar Mateen, a Muslim from Port St. Lucie who had a Statewide Firearms License."

 

[dawgoneyall]

This thread is sure to get locked but the problem is our 17n politicians. Republicans want to blame radical Islam and democrats want to blame guns. They are both to blame and we need people to quit being so concerned with party lines and fix a 17n problem. There is no reason why anyone, law abiding or otherwise, should not have to go through a detailed and rigorous background check to purchase any gun, especially an assault rifle. There should be a waiting period. I'm not saying ban them cause I'm pro gun but **** make it harder. And democrats need to recognize that radical Islam is a problem. I don't wanna profile anyone anymore than we have to but damn it's time to admit that we got a damn a problem and it's not just guns.

It's because Trump is a racist.

There would be no problems anywhere is Trump goes away.

 

[drt7891]

I have not seen any release that's tied it to Islamic terrorism. The only release I saw that mentioned religion at all was an NBC article that had a quote from the guys dad that stated he didn't think it was done out of religion. As sad as all this is, I don't think it's fair to tag "Islamic terrorism" to this right now.

I know these things are sad but it's always knee-jerk reactions of a larger group to point the finger at that can get us in trouble. we condemn groups of people and individuals before we ever know all the facts.

I hurt for the families and individuals who witnessed this (and those who didn't make it) because none of this had to happen.

 

[Shamoan]

We should ban the purchase of pressure cookers. It makes sense.

 

[KurtRambis4]

At the very least,

ban the 60 bullet clip cookers****

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[JungRebel]

Is there any reason to own an assault rifle? (Other than to defend yourself from some other assault rifle?)

 

[KurtRambis4]

You got

It, self defense.

 

[bully12]

Is there any reason to own an assault rifle? (Other than to defend yourself from some other assault rifle?)

Because the second amendment of the Constitution says I have the right to arm and protect myself and mine . . . . . . .

 

[thatsbaseball]

For me no. The sad part is that I`m starting to wonder if I need one. When groups are allowed to openly parade in the streets advocating killing of law enforcement .....how far are we from some form of anarchy ?

 

[ShrubDog]

Is there any reason to own an assault rifle? (Other than to defend yourself from some other assault rifle?)

Here we go again with a stupid *** comments. Does anyone really need a dodge viper that goes 200 mph?

 

[Uncle Ruckus]

It depends on what you are referring to as an assault rifle. A true assault rifle is fully auto and is used by military forces, the term originally came about during ww2 I believe. Most of these people are not using 'assault rifles' but the ill-informed ultra liberals like to report them as such, but they are actually using semi-auto AR15's. There's many reasons to own an AR15 with plinking, or target shooting being the largest. Hunting is another reason. You probably think it is stupid to deer hunt with one, and it kind of is. But hunting varmints and nuisances with these weapons makes it much easier. Hogs, coyotes and other animals will often be in packs and you want to be able to shoot numerous times and very fast. So, target shooting, hunting, and self defense are reasons to own one. Basically the same reasons that you would own any type of gun.

 

[ronpolk]

Is there any reason to own an assault rifle? (Other than to defend yourself from some other assault rifle?)

I guess this is where I'm at on this debate. Trust me when I say I'm very pro gun. I own at least 10 guns. I enjoy shooting and hunting. But I guess I'm sick of seeing this type of stuff on the news.

 

[thatsbaseball]

I`ll keep you posted

"Law enforcement confirmed that the incident is being treated as an act of terrorism. The FBI special agent in charge said there were indications that Mateen subscribed to a radical Islamic ideology, and Rep. Adam Schiff - a top Democrat on the House Intelligence committee - said that Mateen had pledged allegiance to ISIS."

 

[hatfieldms]

You can't do that with a regular gun?

.....

 

[msstate7]

Shoot up a nightclub? Sure you can.

The problem isn't the gun. The problem is the maniac holding the gun.

 

[JungRebel]

Permission to do something is not a reason to do it. I'm not saying there isn't a reason, I even suggested one.

 

[Digging dog]

Cain killed Able with a rock.

 

[JungRebel]

There is nothing about an honest question that could make it a stupid comment. Because grammar.

 

[LTR131]

I am with you on this one. in the past I owned and shot all of it excepting full auto. I reloaded for all of them too.

But I think citing the 2nd amendment is just not adequate anymore. It was created in a time when it took 60 seconds to reload your weapon and our country was not full of batshit crazy people.

Times have changed.

 

[JungRebel]

Thanks.

 

[KurtRambis4]

Yet there were still

mass shootings.

The 2nd amendment isn't about how fast a gun can be reloaded.

 

[ShrubDog]

There is nothing about an honest question that could make it a stupid comment. Because grammar.

Other than to defend yourself from some other assault rifle?

It is a stupid question.

 

[JungRebel]

Someone was able to understand it, provide good reasons, and I was satisfied with the answer. Not characteristics of a stupid question. Or at least not as the phrase is commonly used.

 

[thatsbaseball]

To allow this to become a part of the gun debate is dead wrong. This was another attack on our country and our way(s) of life by a radical cult disguising itself as a religion. If you took every gun in the country it would not change this cult`s hate for us and would not deter them from finding other ways to kill and terrorize. If guns are to be interjected into this, it is because we are being preyed upon by an evil group that our government can`t / won`t control and we need our guns to protect ourselves if the time comes. Thank God for the Second Amendment...we`re sadly gonna need it`s guarantees more than ever going forward.

 

[tired]

I am with you on this one. in the past I owned and shot all of it excepting full auto. I reloaded for all of them too.

But I think citing the 2nd amendment is just not adequate anymore. It was created in a time when it took 60 seconds to reload your weapon and our country was not full of batshit crazy people.

Times have changed.

If you don't think the country was full of batshit crazy people in those days, you don't know what the 17 you're talking about. & if the 2 amendment isn't adequate for you well...move

 

[TXDawg.sixpack]

The most common thread among these mass shootings is that they always happen on "soft targets" (schools, nightclubs, movie theaters, etc). Places where a maniac knows he can go and doesn't have to be concerned about a lawfully armed citizen being there to stop him.

Eliminate "gun free zones" and you'll go a long way towards eliminating the problem. I'm not saying I would concealed carry into a nightclub (at 40+ years old, I wouldn't have been there anyway), but if a CHL holder HAD been carrying there, it's very likely that the story would've ended much differently.

 

[ShrubDog]

Someone was able to understand it, provide good reasons, and I was satisfied with the answer. Not characteristics of a stupid question. Or at least not as the phrase is commonly used.

I just don't understand how a grown human being, one I assume is from MS or has ties to MS, has to ask why anyone would want a semi-auto rifle. Then ask if its defend to yourself from another semi-auto rifle. Troll or head in the sand.

 

[goindhoo]

Assault rifle have been around for over 40 years without these shootings. The problem is not the guns

 

[xxxWalkTheDawg]

Is there any reason to own an assault rifle? (Other than to defend yourself from some other assault rifle?)

Do we need to manufacture, sell, or consume alcholol? How many DUI deaths and alcholol related deaths are there per year? You up for a ban on alcholol in Oxford from people that have been killed in DUI deaths?

do we need Corvettes, Camaros, Mustangs, and even luxury cars that can go 150 mph plus? Why?

Why do we really need free speech? All leaders will always have the publics best interest at heart right?

 

[xxxWalkTheDawg]

I am with you on this one. in the past I owned and shot all of it excepting full auto. I reloaded for all of them too.

But I think citing the 2nd amendment is just not adequate anymore. It was created in a time when it took 60 seconds to reload your weapon and our country was not full of batshit crazy people.

Times have changed.

you mean batshit crazy people is a new phenomenon? Explain the Civil War then.

 

[xxxWalkTheDawg]

"Investigators identified the gunman as 29-year-old Omar Mateen, a Muslim from Port St. Lucie who had a Statewide Firearms License."

also:

https://pjmedia.com/homeland-securi...olf-terrorist-previously-investigated-by-fbi/