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dinglefritz

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When Mike Riley was hired how many people

I agree with you in your last paragraph. I am not saying that I didn't support whoever I am stating that it seemed that way with Riley and Callahan. Some of the dissension with the Riley hire is our own beloved Eichorsst tells us 9 or 10 wins aren't good enough so he goes out and hires a .500 coach to lead to championships. It was hard for a lot of people to accept and most people said we fire Bo and this is who we get?
He was not wrong to fire Bo. Anybody doubting that was living in a fantasy land. The Riley hire clearly was a mistake BUT it got us to Frost. I love it when a plan comes together.
 

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I understand that. But w-l records indicate a lot more than talent. Our w-l records as of late indicate a losing culture. Not losing talent. That’s what needs to be fixed. We need better talent and better depth. There’s no denying that. But if you tell me we didn’t have enough talent on the roster the past 4 years to win 7-8 games consistently then I would tell you you’re wrong. Northwestern is in pretty much every game they play..they don’t have better talent. They have a better culture and have been coached better in the past. We’re just now getting all the pieces in place.


What you're missing is the college football landscape has changed. Moving to a tougher conference is the difference. They underestimated the strength and legacy of the B1G. There might be a few teams that stink but for the most part you are in a dogfight every Saturday in the B1G(except for Rutgers)

No longer does Nebraska have the advantage of feasting on the bottom feeders of the Big 8/12, sprinkled in with one or two marquee games. They had that to hang their hat on for many years.

Another point: Recruits are going to play for who is hot now. They don't care what what happened in the 1980s and 90s. They weren't even born yet! So add that to a small state like Nebraska that doesn't produce many homegrown players, and trying to convince out of state players to come to Lincoln, you can see how the scene has changed.

One other point. Stability, stability, stability...Players commit to coaches, period. If they like a staff they are willing to stick it out thru the tough times . Nebraska has done this to themselves firing coaches for winning 9 games a year because of their delusional expectations.
Look at what Kirk Ferentz has done at Iowa. They are consistently outrecruited but players fall in love with the Iowa culture and they develop players for the next level. ALOT of players in the NFL gets recruits attention. Iowa under KF has put alot of players in the pros and recruits notice. He has been there what 20 years? That is the kind of stability players want to see.
This is a bit long winded but Nebraska has to learn to crawl again before they can walk. Glory days are long gone and the sooner they recognize it the better of f they will be. Stop firing people for winning 9 games a year and get some stability. You are no longer a blue blood of college football that's just fact. I understand there is alot of younger fans but the older fans need to stop hanging on to the past. It is not getting you any wins on Saturdays....Just MHO
 

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Saying there may be people on the board and in the state who don't know much about football is like walking into a McDonald's and suspecting they may serve hamburgers.
 
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What you're missing is the college football landscape has changed. Moving to a tougher conference is the difference. They underestimated the strength and legacy of the B1G. There might be a few teams that stink but for the most part you are in a dogfight every Saturday in the B1G(except for Rutgers)

No longer does Nebraska have the advantage of feasting on the bottom feeders of the Big 8/12, sprinkled in with one or two marquee games. They had that to hang their hat on for many years.

Another point: Recruits are going to play for who is hot now. They don't care what what happened in the 1980s and 90s. They weren't even born yet! So add that to a small state like Nebraska that doesn't produce many homegrown players, and trying to convince out of state players to come to Lincoln, you can see how the scene has changed.

One other point. Stability, stability, stability...Players commit to coaches, period. If they like a staff they are willing to stick it out thru the tough times . Nebraska has done this to themselves firing coaches for winning 9 games a year because of their delusional expectations.
Look at what Kirk Ferentz has done at Iowa. They are consistently outrecruited but players fall in love with the Iowa culture and they develop players for the next level. ALOT of players in the NFL gets recruits attention. Iowa under KF has put alot of players in the pros and recruits notice. He has been there what 20 years? That is the kind of stability players want to see.
This is a bit long winded but Nebraska has to learn to crawl again before they can walk. Glory days are long gone and the sooner they recognize it the better of f they will be. Stop firing people for winning 9 games a year and get some stability. You are no longer a blue blood of college football that's just fact. I understand there is alot of younger fans but the older fans need to stop hanging on to the past. It is not getting you any wins on Saturdays....Just MHO

TLDR. Thanks for your concern, GTFO
 

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What you're missing is the college football landscape has changed. Moving to a tougher conference is the difference. They underestimated the strength and legacy of the B1G. There might be a few teams that stink but for the most part you are in a dogfight every Saturday in the B1G(except for Rutgers)

No longer does Nebraska have the advantage of feasting on the bottom feeders of the Big 8/12, sprinkled in with one or two marquee games. They had that to hang their hat on for many years.

Another point: Recruits are going to play for who is hot now. They don't care what what happened in the 1980s and 90s. They weren't even born yet! So add that to a small state like Nebraska that doesn't produce many homegrown players, and trying to convince out of state players to come to Lincoln, you can see how the scene has changed.

One other point. Stability, stability, stability...Players commit to coaches, period. If they like a staff they are willing to stick it out thru the tough times . Nebraska has done this to themselves firing coaches for winning 9 games a year because of their delusional expectations.
Look at what Kirk Ferentz has done at Iowa. They are consistently outrecruited but players fall in love with the Iowa culture and they develop players for the next level. ALOT of players in the NFL gets recruits attention. Iowa under KF has put alot of players in the pros and recruits notice. He has been there what 20 years? That is the kind of stability players want to see.
This is a bit long winded but Nebraska has to learn to crawl again before they can walk. Glory days are long gone and the sooner they recognize it the better of f they will be. Stop firing people for winning 9 games a year and get some stability. You are no longer a blue blood of college football that's just fact. I understand there is alot of younger fans but the older fans need to stop hanging on to the past. It is not getting you any wins on Saturdays....Just MHO

Thank you for your keen interest in our program.

In case you don't already have the link:
https://huskersathleticfund.com/
 

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He was not wrong to fire Bo. Anybody doubting that was living in a fantasy land. The Riley hire clearly was a mistake BUT it got us to Frost. I love it when a plan comes together.

I’ve always said we should have hired Frost then and taken the hits then rather than now. That Riley hire really set us back 7-8 years.
 

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But I think we have a lot of people in this state and on this board that like football, maybe even love football, but have very little football knowledge. I understand that the majority of people on this board love Nebraska as much or more as I do (saying most because there’s obviously some trolls). I also understand that watching what’s been happening to us on and off for the past 14 years is hard. (I say 14 because I think firing Solich when we did was a mistake. F*** Steve Pedersen)
What's a football?
 

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My feathers are ruffled, but Scott Frost is the wind beneath our wings. We need a brick-by-brick mentality and he'll provide this. If we can't win right now, at least Nebraska will be molders of men. We will be champions of life.
 
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sorry the truth hurts there tough guy...fans like you are the reason the entire conference hates you.....
This doesn't bother me at all.. I guess I don't really care what the B1G conference thinks of us and personally hope it leads to us getting out of here someday.

To me, we have never been a good fit as Nebraska has a blue collar work ethic coupled with an actual nice and neighborly place to live, conservative. The B1G is a wannabe Ivy league, that really is made up of a bunch of liberal cesspool places to live in Illinois, Michigan and Ohio.
 

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What you're missing is the college football landscape has changed. Moving to a tougher conference is the difference. They underestimated the strength and legacy of the B1G. There might be a few teams that stink but for the most part you are in a dogfight every Saturday in the B1G(except for Rutgers)

No longer does Nebraska have the advantage of feasting on the bottom feeders of the Big 8/12, sprinkled in with one or two marquee games. They had that to hang their hat on for many years.

Another point: Recruits are going to play for who is hot now. They don't care what what happened in the 1980s and 90s. They weren't even born yet! So add that to a small state like Nebraska that doesn't produce many homegrown players, and trying to convince out of state players to come to Lincoln, you can see how the scene has changed.

One other point. Stability, stability, stability...Players commit to coaches, period. If they like a staff they are willing to stick it out thru the tough times . Nebraska has done this to themselves firing coaches for winning 9 games a year because of their delusional expectations.
Look at what Kirk Ferentz has done at Iowa. They are consistently outrecruited but players fall in love with the Iowa culture and they develop players for the next level. ALOT of players in the NFL gets recruits attention. Iowa under KF has put alot of players in the pros and recruits notice. He has been there what 20 years? That is the kind of stability players want to see.
This is a bit long winded but Nebraska has to learn to crawl again before they can walk. Glory days are long gone and the sooner they recognize it the better of f they will be. Stop firing people for winning 9 games a year and get some stability. You are no longer a blue blood of college football that's just fact. I understand there is alot of younger fans but the older fans need to stop hanging on to the past. It is not getting you any wins on Saturdays....Just MHO

The BIG has one legit program, a couple of good programs, and then garbage. GTFO with that nonsense.
 

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This doesn't bother me at all.. I guess I don't really care what the B1G conference thinks of us and personally hope it leads to us getting out of here someday.

To me, we have never been a good fit as Nebraska has a blue collar work ethic coupled with an actual nice and neighborly place to live, conservative. The B1G is a wannabe Ivy league, that really is made up of a bunch of liberal cesspool places to live in Illinois, Michigan and Ohio.
This is NOT intended to be a smartass question---where would you have us go?? Please answer.
 
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But I think we have a lot of people in this state and on this board that like football, maybe even love football, but have very little football knowledge. I understand that the majority of people on this board love Nebraska as much or more as I do (saying most because there’s obviously some trolls). I also understand that watching what’s been happening to us on and off for the past 14 years is hard. (I say 14 because I think firing Solich when we did was a mistake. F*** Steve Pedersen)

What I don’t understand is people blaming the coaches and saying our program is dead and that we shouldn’t even try to hire top coaches and should hire mediocrity. Shame on you and anyone that thinks like that and frankly, gtfo. Everyone wants us to get back to dominance but it’s a lot more than just on the field. Everything’s got to be stripped completely to the studs and built back up again. We finally have an admin in place that gives a crap. We have coaches on staff that from the top to the bottom genuinely care about the players and their well being. And they want to win! They didn’t come here to lose!

We have some talent on this team. Enough talent to win 8 or even 9 games on this schedule this year. But talent doesn’t mean anything when you don’t have heart. When you don’t hold yourself and your teammates accountable. When Dismuke picked the ball and it got called back, what happened right after? Lamar Jackson jawing at the Purdue sideline and dancing around..WHY?! You hear the term “have some dawg in you”..he has no “dawg” in him. That’s why. When you continually get beat on every deep route..which he has for 2 years..(correct me if I’m wrong) you’re a liability. He needs to put his head down and get to work instead of jawing off and dancing around. We have kids on this team that will fight but you also have some upperclassmen that are unhappy with the change. Why? Probably because they actually have to work hard for a change. That’s a cancer. But that’s the reality of our program at this point. It’s not the coaches. There’s isn’t a coaching staff in the country that came into a worse situation than ours. Sure, it sucks to be 0-4 but in all reality we should be 3-1. We’ve beat ourselves in 3 of the 4 games we’ve played. That’s on the players. We finally mixed it up this week and started weeding it out and I think that will continue to happen.

Football is more than just the x’s and o’s. We’ve seen what the x’s and o’s of this scheme can do when it works and when the right things are in place. Anyone who didn’t think this was going to be a painful year is naive. We’re we better than 5-7 in ‘15? Yes. Were we better than 4-8 last year? Yes. And we’ll be better than whatever record we end up with this year. Our team learned to quit under Riley. We learned how to lose and how to accept it. We’re learning how to fight again. The wins will come. We just have to be all in as a fan base and supportive.

No feathers ruffled here.. none of these people know ****
 

Larry Hagman's Liver

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The BIG has one legit program, a couple of good programs, and then garbage. GTFO with that nonsense.

The revisionist history is bordering on science fiction around here lately. The B1G has certainly become a better conference in the eight years since we joined. UM, MSU and PSU all took their games up a to an elite or near-elite level, UW and Iowa are as good or better respectively and programs like Purdue and Minnesota are punching above their weight class.

When we joined, the B1G was not there yet. It was a good but not great conference. NU just happened to be meh at the time by NU standards. Of course, Delany was smart enough to stack the schedule the first year so NU couldn't easily win the division and make a case for the Big 12 being the superior conference.

In 2011, in an eight-game conference schedule, we played @Wisc, tOSU, MSU, @PSU, @Mich and Iowa. @Wisc/tOSU and @PSU/@Mich were back-to-backs. All of that, for dear ol' NU? Awww shucks. You shouldn't have. No really, you shouldn't have.
 

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But I think we have a lot of people in this state and on this board that like football, maybe even love football, but have very little football knowledge. I understand that the majority of people on this board love Nebraska as much or more as I do (saying most because there’s obviously some trolls). I also understand that watching what’s been happening to us on and off for the past 14 years is hard. (I say 14 because I think firing Solich when we did was a mistake. F*** Steve Pedersen)

What I don’t understand is people blaming the coaches and saying our program is dead and that we shouldn’t even try to hire top coaches and should hire mediocrity. Shame on you and anyone that thinks like that and frankly, gtfo. Everyone wants us to get back to dominance but it’s a lot more than just on the field. Everything’s got to be stripped completely to the studs and built back up again. We finally have an admin in place that gives a crap. We have coaches on staff that from the top to the bottom genuinely care about the players and their well being. And they want to win! They didn’t come here to lose!

We have some talent on this team. Enough talent to win 8 or even 9 games on this schedule this year. But talent doesn’t mean anything when you don’t have heart. When you don’t hold yourself and your teammates accountable. When Dismuke picked the ball and it got called back, what happened right after? Lamar Jackson jawing at the Purdue sideline and dancing around..WHY?! You hear the term “have some dawg in you”..he has no “dawg” in him. That’s why. When you continually get beat on every deep route..which he has for 2 years..(correct me if I’m wrong) you’re a liability. He needs to put his head down and get to work instead of jawing off and dancing around. We have kids on this team that will fight but you also have some upperclassmen that are unhappy with the change. Why? Probably because they actually have to work hard for a change. That’s a cancer. But that’s the reality of our program at this point. It’s not the coaches. There’s isn’t a coaching staff in the country that came into a worse situation than ours. Sure, it sucks to be 0-4 but in all reality we should be 3-1. We’ve beat ourselves in 3 of the 4 games we’ve played. That’s on the players. We finally mixed it up this week and started weeding it out and I think that will continue to happen.

Football is more than just the x’s and o’s. We’ve seen what the x’s and o’s of this scheme can do when it works and when the right things are in place. Anyone who didn’t think this was going to be a painful year is naive. We’re we better than 5-7 in ‘15? Yes. Were we better than 4-8 last year? Yes. And we’ll be better than whatever record we end up with this year. Our team learned to quit under Riley. We learned how to lose and how to accept it. We’re learning how to fight again. The wins will come. We just have to be all in as a fan base and supportive.


I agree with your assessment but the people on this board who love football also do other things, they are police officers, teachers, businessmen, farmers...etc....they spend their lives doing useful things for society, so as fans they should not be expected to know much about football. Football teams , coaches and players, spend their lives on a game and should know it, as should the media. Frost made a conscious decision to lose this year, it will likely work out in the long run, but the decisions he has made has made the job harder in the shorter term. The consequence is the negativity with losing 10 games in a season. All choices have consequences in the short team and long term, hopefully the long term is the antithesis of the short team.
 

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What you're missing is the college football landscape has changed. Moving to a tougher conference is the difference. They underestimated the strength and legacy of the B1G. There might be a few teams that stink but for the most part you are in a dogfight every Saturday in the B1G(except for Rutgers)

No longer does Nebraska have the advantage of feasting on the bottom feeders of the Big 8/12, sprinkled in with one or two marquee games. They had that to hang their hat on for many years.

Another point: Recruits are going to play for who is hot now. They don't care what what happened in the 1980s and 90s. They weren't even born yet! So add that to a small state like Nebraska that doesn't produce many homegrown players, and trying to convince out of state players to come to Lincoln, you can see how the scene has changed.

One other point. Stability, stability, stability...Players commit to coaches, period. If they like a staff they are willing to stick it out thru the tough times . Nebraska has done this to themselves firing coaches for winning 9 games a year because of their delusional expectations.
Look at what Kirk Ferentz has done at Iowa. They are consistently outrecruited but players fall in love with the Iowa culture and they develop players for the next level. ALOT of players in the NFL gets recruits attention. Iowa under KF has put alot of players in the pros and recruits notice. He has been there what 20 years? That is the kind of stability players want to see.
This is a bit long winded but Nebraska has to learn to crawl again before they can walk. Glory days are long gone and the sooner they recognize it the better of f they will be. Stop firing people for winning 9 games a year and get some stability. You are no longer a blue blood of college football that's just fact. I understand there is alot of younger fans but the older fans need to stop hanging on to the past. It is not getting you any wins on Saturdays....Just MHO
Every poll I’ve ever seen has NEBRASKA overwhelmingly considered a blue blood along with 7 other programs. One thing I know is that Iowa will never be toward the top of the list and probably never even an option when they do these polls EVERY year.

https://thespun.com/college-football/college-football-blue-bloods-twitter-poll
 

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Every poll I’ve ever seen has NEBRASKA overwhelmingly considered a blue blood along with 7 other programs. One thing I know is that Iowa will never be toward the top of the list and probably never even an option when they do these polls EVERY year.

https://thespun.com/college-football/college-football-blue-bloods-twitter-poll

The only reason that may be true is the die hards from the 80s and 90s that actually take the time to complete the poll. Ask anyone born after turn of the millennium who would be considered the top programs in the country. Betcha Nebraska( along with Iowa) would not be mentioned.
Iowa fans, including myself recognize where we are in the pecking order and are fully aware that normally we are going to see about 8 to 9 wins a year and for the most part, accept it. Sure as heck would love to see undefeated championship years but I just know thats not gonna happen. Guess i choose to see the big picture. They do it clean, they send players consistently to the NFL and those players are successful.
And i certainly never get bored as each season is something different.
If it wasn't for a large number of your fan base that can't accept reality i would be alot more sympathetic to where Nebraska is now. Trying to rebuild. But that type of fan who thinks their crap don't stink just pisses everyone off.
 
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The only reason that may be true is the die hards from the 80s and 90s that actually take the time to complete the poll. Ask anyone born after turn of the millennium who would be considered the top programs in the country. Betcha Nebraska( along with Iowa) would not be mentioned
Don’t be a dolt. Well, I suppose you can’t help it...

Blue bloods aren’t the top programs in the country right now. Blue bloods are the ones who have had prolonged success and excellence over a period of decades. DECADES. Not the last 10 OR 20 years. Why is this so hard for you to understand?

Nebraska is a blue blood. Nebraska will be back under Frost. Deal with it.
 
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Don’t be a dolt. Well, I suppose you can’t help it...

Blue bloods aren’t the top programs in the country right now. Blue bloods are the ones who have had prolonged success and excellence over a period of decades. DECADES. Not the last 10 OR 20 years. Why is this so hard for you to understand?

Nebraska is a blue blood. Nebraska will be back under Frost. Deal with it.

Guess we will see...what happens if SF doesn't make it happen? What will be the excuse then?
Make no mistake either : No one outside of Lincoln cares about Nebby's glory years. And yes i know at least you had them right? I'm never gonna argue that Nebraska has had a better past than Iowa, but in today's world they are lapping you at the moment. You Deal with that......
 

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Guess we will see...what happens if SF doesn't make it happen? What will be the excuse then?
Make no mistake either : No one outside of Lincoln cares about Nebby's glory years. And yes i know at least you had them right? I'm never gonna argue that Nebraska has had a better past than Iowa, but in today's world they are lapping you at the moment. You Deal with that......

Lapping? Maybe the last couple of years, but outside that, that statement is comical.
 

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Guess we will see...what happens if SF doesn't make it happen? What will be the excuse then?
Make no mistake either : No one outside of Lincoln cares about Nebby's glory years. And yes i know at least you had them right? I'm never gonna argue that Nebraska has had a better past than Iowa, but in today's world they are lapping you at the moment. You Deal with that......
And no one in Nebraska is saying once a blue blood always a blue blood. Minnesota says hello. But you are high if you think our short absence from the spotlight means we are no longer blue bloods. We have played for the conference championship 3 times in the last decade. That means we haven’t been as bad as you so desperately want to believe.

If we have a prolonged absence from any relevance, our status as blue bloods will go away. I don’t doubt that.

But Nebraska still has more wins the last 50 years than any other program. Want proof? Here you go...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thespu...-10-winningest-teams-of-the-last-50-years/amp

And before you point out that article is from 2 years ago, we still had more than 20 more victories over #2 Oklahoma. Even with a winless 2018 so far, we still have more wins than they do.

So quit being a complete and total idiot, if you can, and recognize that Nebraska deserves the recognition of being a blue blood.

Edit: did a little more research to educate you...

In the last 50 years 3 programs have won 5 NCs... Alabama, Miami, and Nebraska.

Not Oklahoma, not Notre Dame, not USC, not Texas, not Ohio State, not Michigan, not Florida/Florida State, not LSU... do I need to go on?

If you choose to respond, do so at your own risk. Your stupidity will be on full display.
 
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The only reason that may be true is the die hards from the 80s and 90s that actually take the time to complete the poll. Ask anyone born after turn of the millennium who would be considered the top programs in the country. Betcha Nebraska( along with Iowa) would not be mentioned
Ahhh yes, Twitter is very popular with the 50+ demographic. Outside of celebrities, they don’t use it. Your argument hold no weight. Anyway I’m not going to feed the troll. You are wrong and you know it. Blood bloods do fire coaches with average records. The only one on the list that hasn’t had a revolving door with coaches over the last 20 years is Bama and Ohio State. And that really holds true for Bama over the past 10 years. Blue bloods don’t dish out 10 year contracts for average results. They may be a little quick to abandon ship, but I’d rather have that than locking in guys for life that averages 7 wins a year. Our last 3 years have been the worst in our history, yet since we’ve joined the big10 we have 56 wins with Iowa having 54 wins. As an aggregate our worst is your best.


Let it die guys, don’t feed the troll
 
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Don’t feed him anymore, let it die
Pretty sure I made it impossible for him to respond in this thread, at least as it pertains to nebraska’s status as a blue blood.

Just because Iowa fan says we aren’t doesn’t make it so.
 

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Pretty sure I made it impossible for him to respond in this thread, at least as it pertains to nebraska’s status as a blue blood.

Just because Iowa fan says we aren’t doesn’t make it so.
Definitely don’t think his opinion makes it so, but you’re level of confidence in him responding is much higher than mine. One foily and a romp with a cousin will put his mind on reset.
 
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Definitely don’t think his opinion makes it so, but you’re level of confidence in him responding is much higher than mine. One foily and a romp with a cousin will put his mind on reset.
A.nother I.owan D.iscovers S.ex
 
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