This DC is terrible.

[Suh is King_rivals270016]

this post is worthless

 

[Blackshirt316]

Yes there are some players who've improved quite a bit, namely the cornerbacks and Mo Barry. But there are also players who've regressed, even from last year. Carlos Davis, Freedom, Gifford, and the safeties have all regressed from last year. We are about equal statistically with what we had last year on defense. If some players got better, that means some players must have gotten worse.

Gifford has 15 more tackles, 8 more tfls and 4 more sacks than last year how is that regressing?

As for the rest it's real simple. Last year you had 2 things this team does not. Lets break it down.

Lets look at one example, Freedom Akinmoladun:

Freedom had 2.5 sacks in the first 2 games of the season and none since...playing in this system...hmm wonder why that would be? (btw he had a toal of 1 sack all of last year.)

IDK, Probably because he had a healthy Mick Stoltenberg eating up two offensive players each snap? Due to injury Mick hasn't done that since the Michigan game and noone else on the roster really can either. That means undersized guys like Freedom who NEED that help to draw a one on one assignment against a hedged opponent are less effective.

As for the secondary, they also haven't regressed (except for possibly Dismuke).

They are the same players they were last year. And you can throw Dedrick Young in with them - because it's the same story. What has changed is that Josh Kalu isn't there to clean up their messes and hide their mistakes.

Last year when Young would miss a tackle or one of the others would blow a run fit and get burned inside, Kalu had the speed and ability to make a tackle 20 yards down the field instead of being cut off and getting beat for 40.


Outside of one route combination I am waiting to see them address, scheme is NOT the issue here.

This isn't an issue like with Bob Diaco litterally asking players to do two completly conflicting things at the same time in two different spots on the field to make plays work.

This is just a couple positions not having the players with the physical tools to do what is needed at that spot on a consistant basis.

 

[TruHusker]

You’re way off. There are huge differences from what you’re asking of each player in terms of not only scheme but technique, reads and strength and conditioning. We have talent issues but we also have busted assignments all over the place and guys not reading the offense correctly

Well, if I am "way off" then you need to tell me where. Tell me what the "huge differences" in scheme and technique - and how is "each" player - are you comparing position by position? So tell me EXACTLY what is different in technique. As far as reads, sure there can be differences based on coverage and how the O lines up, but seriously, someone is assigned to cover someone else. You have to get there and make the play which brings up your "busted assignments" which is true, way too many guys running wide open so is responsible for that? Isn't some of the problem with them no reading things and lining up correctly coaching issues? Seriously, what is different between technique wise for our nose tackle this year versus last year or an ILB compared to last year or a corner compared to last year?

 

[BigRedBeliever]

Scott Frost will never terminate his DC. He will hold this coaching staff together no matter what the powerful boosters say. If they force Chinander to go, Frost will go too...He won't let them do a Diaco stunt...

 

[phoenix4nu]

Scott Frost will never terminate his DC. He will hold this coaching staff together no matter what the powerful boosters say. If they force Chinander to go, Frost will go too...He won't let them do a Diaco stunt...

Instead he will do a Callahan stunt? Hopefully the defense will improve and we'll never find out.

 

[red scowl]

I believe this his third year as a DC. I believe he did his players on some calls, and his players did him bad on some versus Illinois. I think he'll get better.

We don't have a very athletic defense. When a guy like #5 has a big area to cover were in a bad position against skill. I saw Jojo get blown up a couple times. I still think he's going to be great. Did you notice all the pulling, and the power runs? Were still not strong enough or physical enough, and definitely not deep enough for the B1G.
I think Chins will be fine. Let's put away the posse until the defense keeps us from winning a B1G title.

I like our defense against Sparty though.

 

[dand84]

Gifford has 15 more tackles, 8 more tfls and 4 more sacks than last year how is that regressing?

As for the rest it's real simple. Last year you had 2 things this team does not. Lets break it down.

Lets look at one example, Freedom Akinmoladun:

Freedom had 2.5 sacks in the first 2 games of the season and none since...playing in this system...hmm wonder why that would be? (btw he had a toal of 1 sack all of last year.)

IDK, Probably because he had a healthy Mick Stoltenberg eating up two offensive players each snap? Due to injury Mick hasn't done that since the Michigan game and noone else on the roster really can either. That means undersized guys like Freedom who NEED that help to draw a one on one assignment against a hedged opponent are less effective.

As for the secondary, they also haven't regressed (except for possibly Dismuke).

They are the same players they were last year. And you can throw Dedrick Young in with them - because it's the same story. What has changed is that Josh Kalu isn't there to clean up their messes and hide their mistakes.

Last year when Young would miss a tackle or one of the others would blow a run fit and get burned inside, Kalu had the speed and ability to make a tackle 20 yards down the field instead of being cut off and getting beat for 40.


Outside of one route combination I am waiting to see them address, scheme is NOT the issue here.

This isn't an issue like with Bob Diaco litterally asking players to do two completly conflicting things at the same time in two different spots on the field to make plays work.

This is just a couple positions not having the players with the physical tools to do what is needed at that spot on a consistant basis.

You forgot to drop the mike. Nothing like a 2x4 to the side of the head to end an argument.

 

[RealTucoSalamanca]

Not really, if you look at our schedule we played some of the worst offenses in the nation, and then gave up 63 in our first tough game. That is why ppg stats, rushing yards per game, passing yards per game, are misleading. If you play teams with a statue at qb, a team that runs clock, and uses field position and defense to win...your defense is going to look good. If you play Texas Tech you are not going to give up less than 30. If you play 2-3 MAC or Sunbelt teams you will also look better. We played some good offenses this year... obviously we are very thin and challenged physically but we can win our last 2, and that is all we can ask for...

The weak offenses argument doesn't fly when you compare how Nebraska did against those teams vs how the rest of that teams opponents did.

Compare the 2016 numbers to the 2018 numbers and it isn't close

Opponent % of ave rush % of ave pass %total offense
Fresno 25.06% 115.56% 82.04%
Wyoming 62.18% 81.44% 72.27%
Oregon 155.56% 52.93% 97.79%
NW 88.77% 102.66% 97.28%
Illinois 87.66% 82.19% 84.62%
Indiana 55.93% 88.63% 76.77%
Purdue 23.40% 105.20% 84.03%
Wisc 110.69% 61.96% 87.43%
Ohio St 96.91% 173.83% 131.67%
Minn 44.46% 103.75% 72.67%
maryland 5.12% 111.05% 52.92%
Iowa 161.72% 93.66% 128.27%
Tenn 113.35% 124.58% 119.36%

 

[ridge22]

2003, But nice try...the 2002 defense only gave up +30 4 times...Bo in 2008 gave 34 ppg in his power 5 games...the 2002 defense was compared to some of the best teams we have ever had. They were average on both sides of the ball...if they had a dominant offense like the 90s they win 11 games again.

You really should have seen some more improvement from this unit, especially with having a year of 3-4 under their belt and having basically 9-10 starters back. In looking at the numbers we are about right on pace for ppg and actually a little worse this year with ypg and last season.

If you want to deflect and go back and ***** about Bo that if your problem. But that doesn't change the fact that this defense has not gotten any better than last season. If it would have you wouldn't be 3-7 right now.

 

[Hoosker Du]

Scott Frost will never terminate his DC. He will hold this coaching staff together no matter what the powerful boosters say. If they force Chinander to go, Frost will go too...He won't let them do a Diaco stunt...

So...he would let down his entire home state before changing his DC? Sorry, I disagree.

 

[oldjar07]

Gifford has 15 more tackles, 8 more tfls and 4 more sacks than last year how is that regressing?

As for the rest it's real simple. Last year you had 2 things this team does not. Lets break it down.

Lets look at one example, Freedom Akinmoladun:

Freedom had 2.5 sacks in the first 2 games of the season and none since...playing in this system...hmm wonder why that would be? (btw he had a toal of 1 sack all of last year.)

IDK, Probably because he had a healthy Mick Stoltenberg eating up two offensive players each snap? Due to injury Mick hasn't done that since the Michigan game and noone else on the roster really can either. That means undersized guys like Freedom who NEED that help to draw a one on one assignment against a hedged opponent are less effective.

As for the secondary, they also haven't regressed (except for possibly Dismuke).

They are the same players they were last year. And you can throw Dedrick Young in with them - because it's the same story. What has changed is that Josh Kalu isn't there to clean up their messes and hide their mistakes.

Last year when Young would miss a tackle or one of the others would blow a run fit and get burned inside, Kalu had the speed and ability to make a tackle 20 yards down the field instead of being cut off and getting beat for 40.


Outside of one route combination I am waiting to see them address, scheme is NOT the issue here.

This isn't an issue like with Bob Diaco litterally asking players to do two completly conflicting things at the same time in two different spots on the field to make plays work.

This is just a couple positions not having the players with the physical tools to do what is needed at that spot on a consistant basis.

If we don't have the players to run a 3-4, why are we running a 3-4? Chinander has run a 4-3 before, and said he doesn't have a problem using it this year. If all our linemen are undersized for a 3-4, why aren't we using any 4-3 this year? Especially for a DC who says he has no problem running both. Our guys several times haven't even accounted for a receiver in the past couple of weeks, and have lost contain several times. Sounds like a scheme problem to me and not just that our players suck. And you say Diaco was asking physically inferior players to do conflicting things. Well why is our defense not any better when Chinander's not asking them to do those things?

 

[Hoosker Du]

If we don't have the players to run a 3-4, why are we running a 3-4? Chinander has run a 4-3 before, and said he doesn't have a problem using it this year. If all our linemen are undersized for a 3-4, why aren't we using any 4-3 this year? Especially for a DC who says he has no problem running both. Our guys several times haven't even accounted for a receiver in the past couple of weeks, and have lost contain several times. Sounds like a scheme problem to me and not just that our players suck. And you say Diaco was asking physically inferior players to do conflicting things. Well why is our defense not any better when Chinander's not asking them to do those things?

Don't forget to let them know that all of our DEs are 290+ now, but they'll probably refute that too. And players aren't necessarily born a 4-3 or 3-4 DT or DE. If they are athletic and can put on some good weight, they can transition to 3-4 NTs and DEs.

Also, don't make mention that the majority of NTs in the NFL are between 290 and 310. That may very well make their heads explode. They just have to be strong as an ox.

 

[dinglefritz]

If we don't have the players to run a 3-4, why are we running a 3-4? Chinander has run a 4-3 before, and said he doesn't have a problem using it this year. If all our linemen are undersized for a 3-4, why aren't we using any 4-3 this year? Especially for a DC who says he has no problem running both. Our guys several times haven't even accounted for a receiver in the past couple of weeks, and have lost contain several times. Sounds like a scheme problem to me and not just that our players suck. And you say Diaco was asking physically inferior players to do conflicting things. Well why is our defense not any better when Chinander's not asking them to do those things?

WE ARE RUNNING A 3-4 BECAUSE FROST WANTS TO RUN A 3-4. AT SOME POINT YOU JUST HAVE TO RUN WITH WHAT YOU WANT TO DO AND TEACH YOUR SYSTEM. Rip the bandaid off and get your systems in place. You don't f### around with the 4-3 if your plan is to run a 3-4. You do realize that Carriker has said virtually the exact same thing about what Diaco asked of his defense? You guys are amazing. I don't know what the point of your crusade is but your persistence is unbelievable.

 

[GoBluePureMichigan]

What does he have to work with?

Please don't confuse the OP with relevant facts....Laughing

Best.