Things are a changing...
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For those who dont think this team was made to be soft as pillows under Riley- see what Frost and Co are doing. They aren't taking any prisoners. Look for lots of new faces in the starting lineup- JUCOs, Freshmen and those who choose to buy in
“The coaching staff is going to make sure if players aren’t doing what they’re supposed to be doing, there will be consequences,” he said.
“And they’re not going to like it,” said Davison.
And not everyone is going to make it with this new staff, Davison said. That was the message from day one under Frost.
“Stood there the first day and said, ‘Here’s what we’re going to ask of you. And it’s going to be a heck of a lot of fun for those of you who stay and make it and are a part of this deal. Some of you probably aren’t going to make it, and that’s OK because we’re going to get rid of the guys who can’t make it,’ ” Davison said.
The roster needs to be “flipped” Davison said. It needs guys who are willing to compete.
“The coaching staff is going to make sure if players aren’t doing what they’re supposed to be doing, there will be consequences,” he said.
“And they’re not going to like it,” said Davison.
And not everyone is going to make it with this new staff, Davison said. That was the message from day one under Frost.
“Stood there the first day and said, ‘Here’s what we’re going to ask of you. And it’s going to be a heck of a lot of fun for those of you who stay and make it and are a part of this deal. Some of you probably aren’t going to make it, and that’s OK because we’re going to get rid of the guys who can’t make it,’ ” Davison said.
The roster needs to be “flipped” Davison said. It needs guys who are willing to compete.
I don't like that he's publicly criticizing current players like this. It's fine to be honest with them face-to-face, but telling the media that "character wasn't looked at enough" and we need better players isn't going to help the current guys buy-in.
It's perfectly ok with me! Lay it out straight-forwardly......Matt & Scott are serious about bringing Nebraska cfb back to the real deal. No half-*** attempts are allowed for anybody.
Fair enough!
Fair enough!
"Snitches get stitches," - Tom Osborne. Keep it in house Davison!
Good lord...im so glad to be rid of this soft rileyesque way of thinking
DID HE NAME PEOPLE BY NAME? IF NOT, NO PROBLEM WITH ME...
Exactly. He didn't put anyone's name in the paper, but he sure did send a message. He's not saying anything Frost didn't say to them on Day 1 from the sounds of it.
IMO it would be more unfair if they didn't tell the kids that their previous level of effort was unacceptable and just blindsided them with consequences for failing to meet some invisible standard.
That's exactly right. There is zero problem with laying out the concept publicly as long as no names are mentioned. The team knows with decent accuracy who the people on the bubble are. Some of the players on the bubble will overcome and make it. That's where the real excitement comes in!
He is not calling out the names, but he is calling out the subset... I have zero problems with this. This is big boy football. Mommy and daddy no longer gonna protect you from the evils of the world. Better to face and cope with it in controlled environments than later where there is no second chance. All part of the education process of college.
So excited to see this team transform over the next 1-2 seasons. I'm sure, like with any organizational change, not all the players will get on board but no doubt the vast majority of them will.
Who wouldn't want to play for these guys?
Who wouldn't want to play for these guys?
This is the way you create appropriate roster turnover. You demand a level of commitment that makes kids who aren’t going to play reevaluate if the commitment is worth the reward. For some it may be and they belong and are valuable members whether they play or not .... for others it isn’t and they move on hopefully better for the experience
Not sure if Matt needed to air this publicly, but it's pretty important the this type of message was communicated to the kids on the roster. Going forward, the kids that buy in now will hold those who come after them accountable.
This is smart because he didn't name names AND he knows the kids are going to read this stuff and know the staff is serious.
What this does is essentially draws a line in the sand.
All athletes on the team are welcome to come to the coach's side of that line. No one wants to be known as one of the guys who couldn't make it. They want to be the ones who did, which means they are strong.
This could actually motivate people more...they wanna be on the right side of the line, means they aren't panzies.
And if they don't like it...well...they are weeded out.
What this does is essentially draws a line in the sand.
All athletes on the team are welcome to come to the coach's side of that line. No one wants to be known as one of the guys who couldn't make it. They want to be the ones who did, which means they are strong.
This could actually motivate people more...they wanna be on the right side of the line, means they aren't panzies.
And if they don't like it...well...they are weeded out.
I can see both sides to this argument… Since no names were given, I don’t necessarily have a problem with this info being aired. On the other hand, this is something that could have been communicated to the players and left in house. I wouldn’t have had a problem with that either. Obviously, what’s most important, is that the players heard this message loud and clear.
I think they did.
I think they did.
what you are seeing is the players broken down both publicly and privately - once they have come to the realization what was happening was not acceptable then they are rebuilt again
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Propaganda machine in full effect. Had the last staff done this, the same people praising it ITT would be screaming mad. Hilarious
It's put up or shutup for quite a few. Lamar Jackson comes to mind directly.
Last staff = .500% lifetime coach who promptly through stupid game decisions had a losing season his first year, Current staff = coached a team to an undefeated season
Effort is one thing, but talking about previous staffs not recruiting kids with good character is another. Those kids are still on the roster. Also, I don't think Frost has made comments like this to the media, sure he has made his expectations clear to the team, but I couldn't imagine him calling out their character to the media. I doubt he is happy with MD's comments, but I could be wrong.
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In summary it's quite simple, all it takes is, all you've got. Long overdue.
he said :“I don’t think character was something that was looked at enough. I don’t think fit in Nebraska was looked at enough,” Davison said.
That does not say that any of these kids have bad character just says it was not driving the recruiting
Thats' why I lean to keeping such communication in-house and not aired in a public forum by a FB admin. Not that big of a deal though. In any event, Riley took over a nine win team from a 5 win team who had two conference wins. Pretty hard to lay down the law in that circumstance.
I supported Riley into the 2017 season. In retrospect, it's pretty clear that he didn't have the capacity to run a championship level program in the B1G. I don't regret my support, the HC should be supported. And I don't necessarily agree with Frost et al. throwing shade at the previous staff in public statements. But it appears that is how they are going to roll, at least every now and again. And it's not as if the shade is undeserved. That roster had the capacity to play much better FB than it did. The team was unprepared and it appears that started with what they did in the winter of 2017.
Transparency and honesty are the best ways to address an issue.
Guess if I'm in the room with those kids I take the, "If that doesn't describe you, then you don't need to waste any energy trying to get upset about it" angle.
If somebody makes a comment about people with bad character and you make a choice to get offended, what does that say about how you view yourself?
Face it, there are a certain number of players on the roster who won't be motivated and will transfer/quit/not play. The sooner those players are gone the better. The guys who know that they're giving it everything they have are nodding in agreement with his comments.
If the last staff had made public comments criticizing the commitment and effort of certain players, we would have been screaming mad? WRONG. Just like ALWAYS (i.e. every single effing topic posted on this board since the beginning of time) there would have been a mix of opinions spanning the spectrum of agreement/disagreement. Stop acting like you know everything. It's pathetic. You constantly refer to this imaginary group of "the same people". Take off your tinfoil hat and join reality.
If the last staff had made public comments criticizing the commitment and effort of certain players, we would have been screaming mad? WRONG. Just like ALWAYS (i.e. every single effing topic posted on this board since the beginning of time) there would have been a mix of opinions spanning the spectrum of agreement/disagreement. Stop acting like you know everything. It's pathetic. You constantly refer to this imaginary group of "the same people". Take off your tinfoil hat and join reality.
Maybe I'm just getting tired of all the big talk from our coaches in public, who don't back it up on the field. Pelini said similar things as Davison - "we'll make our own stars". And who can forget Bill "we take what we want" Callahan? And don't forget about Bob Diaco and the big game that he talked.
There's no doubt that the effort last year wasn't good enough, and we lack depth at certain positions. But I don't think we have a lack of talent or high-character guys that Davison is implying. I haven't seen any of these guys getting in trouble off the field, it's certainly less than under previous coaches. The offense is full of 4-star players and has 2 of the best receivers in the country returning. I'm tired of the quotes about "we don't care about stars". Alabama, Georgia, Clemson, Ohio State, Oklahoma, etc. seem to care about stars and it's working out pretty well for them. Those stars that Callahan recruited made a poor coach like Pelini look good good for a few years - look what happened later when he tried to build his own stars.
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At the end of the day- MOST kids like structure, order and discipline. While many say they DONT, most people inherently crave it subconsciously. I remember some of the most rebellious guys Ive ever met- in basic training- who ended up clinging onto the harsh discipline, work and accountability like a light pole in a hurricane. That goes then- it goes now, I see the very same thing today in most kids.
The only difference is today- you have to have legit credibility- Frost Has
Kids need to know that if they listen to you- they will improve- you know what you are talking about
And they need to know you care about them- Frost hits this mark as well
THINGS MUST CHANGE
You dont do the same thing over and over again and expect different results
MR tried his approach- time to go in a much different direction
The only difference is today- you have to have legit credibility- Frost Has
Kids need to know that if they listen to you- they will improve- you know what you are talking about
And they need to know you care about them- Frost hits this mark as well
THINGS MUST CHANGE
You dont do the same thing over and over again and expect different results
MR tried his approach- time to go in a much different direction
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Tom never had to deal with the crap Scott inherited.
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Ears burning? It's a fact, and your "like" on this post is as guilty as any. But then again, hypocrites cannot be consistent. It's not your fault, it's just what you are.
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Even one of our football administrators apparently doesn't fully believe his buddy is capable of coaching up the talent on the team. This is kind of sad. He's the best hire possible, there is no reason for excuses before they have even practiced for the first time. Very sad.
College FB is littered with players who have top shelf talent but languish off of the two deep of depth charts. I got the vibe that expectations were increasing and some guys would decide it wasn't worth it. That doesn't mean those players can't or lack the capacity. Championship teams and players put in the work.
When I read this it reminded me of Gulliver's Travels when he visited the land of the horses where the Yahoos (humans) were vile creatures. Gulliver noted the single most vile trait was when one of the Yahoos fell out of power the other Yahoos would climb up in a tree and "discharge their excrements" on the head of the guy out of power. The Riley regime is gone, move forward Matt.
If certain players won't buy in because of that, they weren't going to buy in, anyway. If they are going to be offended by the coach or anyone saying better players are needed, then they either get out to make room for someone else who MAKE UP their minds that THEY are going to GET better, therefore MAKE THEMSELVES into a better player.
And SF wasn't talking to the media like those other guys, trying to impress the public. He was talking to HIS team. Davison was just reiterating that.
Nambi-pambi isn't going to cut it. I'm not trying to point fingers at anyone in particular, but sometimes I wonder how many fans making comments ever really played the game on a team with a truly winning attitude. I was fortunate enough to have done so.
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I would not take the approach of making public statements on how some players may not make the mark and indirectly criticize the previous staff. But Frost and staff has earned some credibility and they have chosen to play things this way. We will see if they have the funds to back the checks their mouths are writing. The previous staff failed and did not put the kids in a position to succeed.
I have no idea if they saw attitudes in some returning players that weren't conducive to their plans for the team and are being assertive in nipping that in the bud. I doubt they are being dickish just for the hell of it.
At the end of the day, the kids are being offered a spot on the bus, but will have to earn it. Either you are on the bus or off of it.
its amazing how you can consistently read minds of individuals on a message board, and that's not just occasionally, but EVERY DAY