The Save Act

bdgan

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I don't know how many times I have to repeat this, but under the SAVE ACT, you have to re-register in person.
Another Dpic falsehood

Save Act, as written in the House-passed version, does not force every registered voter to re-register en masse it would require documentary proof of U.S. citizenship when someone registers for the first time or when they update their registration (for example after a move or a name change),

factually.co/fact-checks/politics/does-save-act-require-re-register-to-vote-49f4aa
 

dpic73

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Another Dpic falsehood

Save Act, as written in the House-passed version, does not force every registered voter to re-register en masse it would require documentary proof of U.S. citizenship when someone registers for the first time or when they update their registration (for example after a move or a name change),

factually.co/fact-checks/politics/does-save-act-require-re-register-to-vote-49f4aa
Hey doofus, you just proved me right. Of course you don't have to re-register if nothing has changed and I have repeatedly said that you will have to re-register if you have moved or your name on your license doesn't match your birth certificate.

And that's not a small number:

- Eligible American voters who move every year - 29 million
- Women who have driver's licenses or other identification that does not match their birth certificates - 69 million

Total = 98 million or more than half of all registered voters(
though many of these overlap)


Edit - this could also apply to hyphenated last names..
 
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Worst administration of all time, slaves to Israel as I said over a year ago and was laughed at. But the Save Act has to pass, it’s the only way you can keep American elections free. Problem is the bill they’re trying to pass as “the save act” has a million different things in the bill that have nothing to do with voter ID.
 

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Worst administration of all time, slaves to Israel as I said over a year ago and was laughed at. But the Save Act has to pass, it’s the only way you can keep American elections free. Problem is the bill they’re trying to pass as “the save act” has a million different things in the bill that have nothing to do with voter ID.
What makes you say that? We've had free elections for 250 years with an extremely small amount of fraud but suddenly, only because Trump is a whiny *****, this is the most important bill of all time. A bill that will require tens of millions of people to re-register and harshly punish any election worker who mistakenly accepts a non-compliant document with up to 5 years in prison.

And if it does go into effect before the mid-terms, there's no way that everyone who needs to re-register will have done it by then, nor will the systems be updated across the nation in time. If you want it to go into effect before 2028 fine but six months is an attempt to fast-track it in order to help Trump keep from losing his ***. He deserves to lose the mid-terms so tell me again why it's so crucial?
 
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dpic73

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This sounds like leftist propaganda. With that said if its true then im happy to do it.
Bullcrap. There is a miniscule amount of fraud and there's no reason to rush this in time for the mid-terms just because Trump is worried he'll get clobbered. It doesn't have a damn thing to do with keeping non-citizens from voting, especially when you consider there have been less than 75 "attempted" instances over 25 years and billions of ballots cast. This is a voter suppression bill, pure and simple, so in effect, it's actually a way for Trump to cheat.
 

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Bullcrap. There is a miniscule amount of fraud and there's no reason to rush this in time for the mid-terms just because Trump is worried he'll get clobbered. It doesn't have a damn thing to do with keeping non-citizens from voting, especially when you consider there have been less than 75 "attempted" instances over 25 years and billions of ballots cast. This is a voter suppression bill, pure and simple, so in effect, it's actually a way for Trump to cheat.
How are you supposing it suppresses vote?
 
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TigerGrowls

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Separate but related. Ukraine had a vested interest in Kamala winning.



Well, that might explain how Kamala came up with $2 billion in just a few weeks.

"U.S. intelligence intercepted Ukrainian government communications discussing a plot to route hundreds of millions of American tax dollars earmarked for clean energy in the war-torn country and move them to the United States to enrich then-President Joe Biden’s 2024 re-election campaign and the Democratic National Committee, according to a declassified intelligence report summarizing the intercepts.

“The Ukrainian Government and unspecified U.S. Government personnel, through USAID in Kyiv, reportedly developed a plan that would provide hundreds of millions of US taxpayer dollars to fund an infrastructure project for Ukraine that would be used as a cover to send approximately 90% of funds allocated to the DNC to fund Joe Biden’s reelection campaign,” the declassified summary of the intercepts stated.

"Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard recently learned of the intercepts and has asked the U.S. Agency for International Development officials to scour for records to see if the plot actually was carried out and whether a criminal referral should be made to the FBI."

So far, Gabbard's team has not found any evidence that the Biden Administration investigated this intelligence. Because duh.
 
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fatpiggy

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It begs the question.

States are in charge of their elections. But what happens when states fail to enforce their own laws? Who hold them accountable? No one!



 
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Bullcrap. There is a miniscule amount of fraud and there's no reason to rush this in time for the mid-terms just because Trump is worried he'll get clobbered. It doesn't have a damn thing to do with keeping non-citizens from voting, especially when you consider there have been less than 75 "attempted" instances over 25 years and billions of ballots cast. This is a voter suppression bill, pure and simple, so in effect, it's actually a way for Trump to cheat.
you might be able to accomplish the same thing (partially) as SAVE act by culling the voter rolls and removing the dead people, those that no longer live in the state/district etc.
 

dpic73

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you might be able to accomplish the same thing (partially) as SAVE act by culling the voter rolls and removing the dead people, those that no longer live in the state/district etc.
States already do that routinely but thanks for bringing that up because that's another reason Democrats are opposed to the SAVE ACT. It will require every state to turn over their voter rolls to the least trustworthy administration in history so they can cull the voter rolls in the way that they deem fit. Oh hell no....

"Under the federal National Voter Registration Act (NVRA), states are required to remove a voter from its rolls if the person has died, moved, or has not voted in two consecutive federal elections, and fails to respond to mailings asking for confirmation that they wish to remain registered. Additionally, states can remove people from their rolls if the person is determined to not be a citizen, and some states also remove convicted felons and people deemed mentally incompetent."
 
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🚨 SENATE SELLOUT IN THE DEAD OF NIGHT: While America slept, just 5 Senators showed up at 2AM and rammed through a DHS funding bill by quiet voice vote.


NO debate, NO recorded vote.


The five who were present:


@LeaderJohnThune (R-SD)


Eric Schmitt (R-MO)


Bernie Moreno (R-OH)


Mazie Hirono (D-HI)


Andy Kim (D-NJ)


They funded TSA to "fix" airport lines but ZERO full funding for ICE and Border Patrol.


NO SAVE America Act, no proof of citizenship nor identification to vote.


Now they all prepare to jet off for a 2-WEEK RECESS!


Is this the "Republican leadership" you voted for in 2024?


House SHOULD REJECT this betrayal.


Care to explain this GOP Senate Surrender to voters?


@SenEricSchmitt
@berniemoreno
 

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🚨 SENATE SELLOUT IN THE DEAD OF NIGHT: While America slept, just 5 Senators showed up at 2AM and rammed through a DHS funding bill by quiet voice vote.


NO debate, NO recorded vote.


The five who were present:


@LeaderJohnThune (R-SD)


Eric Schmitt (R-MO)


Bernie Moreno (R-OH)


Mazie Hirono (D-HI)


Andy Kim (D-NJ)


They funded TSA to "fix" airport lines but ZERO full funding for ICE and Border Patrol.


NO SAVE America Act, no proof of citizenship nor identification to vote.


Now they all prepare to jet off for a 2-WEEK RECESS!


Is this the "Republican leadership" you voted for in 2024?


House SHOULD REJECT this betrayal.


Care to explain this GOP Senate Surrender to voters?


@SenEricSchmitt
@berniemoreno

here's a question...ok this bill does not fund ICE or border patrol...But ICE is funded through 2029 via the BBB. So what is not funded in this Senate bill?
 

TigerGrowls

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here's a question...ok this bill does not fund ICE or border patrol...But ICE is funded through 2029 via the BBB. So what is not funded in this Senate bill?
Very good question. Im still trying to figure this part out. To be continued.
 

TigerGrowls

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President Trump has the power to convene the Senate under Article II, Section 3 of the Constitution “on extraordinary Occasions.”

If a department with 260,000 employees (DHS) going unfunded isn’t an “extraordinary occasion”—especially while the Senate is out on a two-week recess during that shutdown with no plans to resolve the impasse beyond “we’ll deal with that in two weeks”—I don’t know what is.
 

dpic73

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President Trump has the power to convene the Senate under Article II, Section 3 of the Constitution “on extraordinary Occasions.”

If a department with 260,000 employees (DHS) going unfunded isn’t an “extraordinary occasion”—especially while the Senate is out on a two-week recess during that shutdown with no plans to resolve the impasse beyond “we’ll deal with that in two weeks”—I don’t know what is.

DERP, the Senate already unanimously passed a bill to fund DHS 100-0. They are not the problem here.

 
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TigerGrowls

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DERP, the Senate already unanimously passed a bill to fund DHS 100-0. They are not the problem here.

Playing dumb will Not work here dpic. We all know what occurred.
 

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That thing that never happens is happening again.

Our elections are fraudulent. Zero doubt. We don’t have fair elections.


The election fraud these Demonrats are engaging in (and have engaged in for decades) is simply mind blowing. Thank God we have you to point out the myriad instances of it, Piggy. :cool:
 

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Hey doofus, you just proved me right. Of course you don't have to re-register if nothing has changed and I have repeatedly said that you will have to re-register if you have moved or your name on your license doesn't match your birth certificate.

And that's not a small number:

- Eligible American voters who move every year - 29 million
- Women who have driver's licenses or other identification that does not match their birth certificates - 69 million

Total = 98 million or more than half of all registered voters(
though many of these overlap)


Edit - this could also apply to hyphenated last names..
You're saying that if a person moves from NY to FL they shouldn't have to register to vote in FL elections and that they should be allowed to continue voting in NY?

The 69 million women whose birth certificate doesn't match their driver's license is a red herring. That's true of almost every married woman in America. After you prove your citizenship and register to vote you don't get a new birth certificate with you married name. That's just dumb.

Half of the 29 million people who move are men whose name hasn't changed. Furthermore 75% of the people who move stay in the same state, most in the same county.

You've lost your mind
 

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You're saying that if a person moves from NY to FL they shouldn't have to register to vote in FL elections and that they should be allowed to continue voting in NY?

The 69 million women whose birth certificate doesn't match their driver's license is a red herring. That's true of almost every married woman in America. After you prove your citizenship and register to vote you don't get a new birth certificate with you married name. That's just dumb.

Half of the 29 million people who move are men whose name hasn't changed. Furthermore 75% of the people who move stay in the same state, most in the same county.

You've lost your mind
At the end of the day, the Save Act is introducing a Poll Tax in disguise and is unconstitutional. No other conversation necessary.
 
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DERP, the Senate already unanimously passed a bill to fund DHS 100-0. They are not the problem here.

dpic, the goal here is to get a bill passed. The fact that one part of the government passed a bill, that they know will not pass in the other, is a meaningless action. It's the same with the house passing a bill that they know will not pass the Senate.

All these actions do is continue the "game" as to which segment can pass the blame on to the other.

We have one government, their job is to pas a budget. Neither party has the votes currently to get what they want in a bill to fund DHS.
It should be unacceptable to all of us that we have people, who we expect to show up for work, not getting paid for 2 pay periods. We should all be addressing our complaints to the Congress overall. It's time to put the party "win" aside and work for the benefit of the people.

I agree with whoever posted it, trump should call the Congress back into session to get this done.
 

dpic73

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You're saying that if a person moves from NY to FL they shouldn't have to register to vote in FL elections and that they should be allowed to continue voting in NY?

The 69 million women whose birth certificate doesn't match their driver's license is a red herring. That's true of almost every married woman in America. After you prove your citizenship and register to vote you don't get a new birth certificate with you married name. That's just dumb.

Half of the 29 million people who move are men whose name hasn't changed. Furthermore 75% of the people who move stay in the same state, most in the same county.

You've lost your mind
You can't be this dense.

If you even move across the street you will have to re-register in person because your address is different than the one on your ID.

You're right, it would be dumb if you had to update your birth certificate with your married name because that makes no sense and I've never suggested that. What I'm telling you is if your name doesn't match your birth certificate, you will need to re-register in person with your birth certificate and marriage license.

It doesn't matter if you are a man or a woman, if you move, you have to re-register in person even if you move within the same state.

This has nothing to do with my mind dumbass, research it for yourself. I've provided plenty of evidence to back up my assertions. I'm telling you what's in the bill, which I didn't write, NOT what I believe.
 

tigres88

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Huh? Thee's no fee involved.
It is for the 10s of millions of people who don't have access to their birth certificate or don't have a passport. They have to purchase a passport or purchase access to their birth certificate to register to vote.

That is a poll tax
 
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