The "Relentless" video series started today...

aTotal360

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It's a shame it's paygated after this week. Burdening the consumer with the bill is busch league. Burden the sponsors. There is much better way to monetize this. At the end of the day, Stricklin has to decide what's more important...people actually watching it or people sighing up for Hailstate.com accounts.
 

CochiseCowbell

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I understand wanting traffic directed through Hail State instead of YouTube. But I don't get the mobile block.
 

aTotal360

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Certainly hope so. I vaguely remember reading on twitter the first week was free.
 

esplanade91

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Working in digital advertising, I highly doubt MSU is making much money off running Sullivan Furniture and other local ads for a total of ~40,000 impressions. I guess if they do this over every episode, for all sports, throughout the whole year, I'm sure they can supplement someone's salary... But just seems like peanuts compared to the overall budget.
 
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CochiseCowbell

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Couldn't get it to load on my phone through Hail State site, so I took BMT's advice & it played perfectly on my phone's YouTube app. Thanks, Hoss.
 

dotcomdawg

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I watched it on my phone. I thought it was excellent. So glad we have ditched the old coaches show format.
 

Vice

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FINALLY!! Kudos to the production team and AD for making this happen. Excellent.

I thought it was outstanding. It's like the "Hard Knocks" of MSU football. Very well done. Had my attention the whole time. Nice job!
 

AssEndDawg

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My Critique on the IT decisions

I graduated from MSU in '94 with a MIS degree and have worked with large scale IT systems ever since. I now run a web programming shop where we deal with some of our companies web infrastructure. The choice of NeuLion has been a bust from a technical perspective. The site is poorly designed and has always run like crap. They use a lot of synchronous updating that could easily be done asynchronous which is sloppy and just reeks of bad programming. The site looks pretty good, but the look is by far the easiest part of a site. The choice to do this video series the way it is done is absolutely ridiculous. There is a very good reason that people put stuff on YouTube. It is very, very hard to stream video well. You need huge data pipes, you need a very well done viewer that can handle variations/fluctuations in client data speeds, you need enough mirrors to push the stream to the max capacity of your pipe.

I have a fiber, business class connection and live in the middle of Memphis not far from my local termination point. There is absolutely no reason I would not be able to see a video like this in full HD without any hesitation or signal loss. But this video not only has signal loss, it is downgraded to the point I have artifacts constantly during playback. The video pauses in random spots for streaming to catch up, and twice playback stopped and I had to restart it. At some point MSU has to just admit that this NeuLion deal was not a great decision and quit doubling down into this bad technology and programming. I'm sure there is a contract in place but I would hope that we still could host videos on YouTube and not be stuck with the poor capabilities of the NeuLion viewer/stream. If we are going to stay with NeuLion someone really needs to audit their capabilities. Video is hard, way more difficult than pushing text or images or programming, and the people we have right now can't do it right. They really need to put stuff back on YouTube. /rant
 

AlCoDog

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I have fairly crappy Internet. I had no issues and skipped through commercials. To quote Carl Spackler, "it's no big deal."
 

aTotal360

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You hit the nail on the head. NueLion is using what appears to be antiquated technology. Proprietary streaming techs outside of the standards (like YT, Vimeo, Twitch) are fails. I'm sure the ONLY reason NueLion is even in the picture if because of promises of monetization (and a contract). And it sucks for MSU and it's fans. You are right about the compression too. It's pretty bad for an HD feed in 2015. I'm sure it looks fine on a phone, but it was pretty average on my 21 inch monitor. Matter of fact, after about 3 minutes in, I said screw it and stopped watching it in full screen.

The show was great. The delivery way meh. Host it on YouTube or Vimeo and call it a day.
 

AssEndDawg

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I guess that's why Ole Miss uses Vimeo.
Absolutely. Vimeo gives a lot of advantages and probably has the best viewing experience right now. They are better than YouTube, but it's because they deal with a tiny fraction of the traffic and therefore can do things in a different way. One of the bonuses of Vimeo is that since not many people go there to look for content (I know I don't and I've been a Vimeo member since they started) you get the benefit of their infrastructure while still having a lot of control over the entry point to the content. I'm not sure how the ad revenue is handled but I'm guessing we are "self-hosting" because we are wanting more of that pie. Kinda sad we can't see this amazing, high-quality video the way our talented production team would like us to.
 
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