The Professor

LionJim

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You rang?

I was a Central Casting mathematics professor, totally looked the part. One time I met my dad and his brother in a Fells Point restaurant; Uncle Ollie was a Jesuit priest who taught English at Fairfield University for a good spell. When I walked in Ollie goes, “You look like a college professor.” “I *am* a college professor.”
 
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Rick76

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Greg Maddux must hold the record for obvious balls called strikes by the home plate umpire.

I mentioned this to a friend of mine who was a scout for the NY Mets. He didn't deny it. But he said "Maddux always gets those calls" - like it was ok.

Bring on ABS. I would think the players would be all for it.
 

Missileer

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Greg Maddux must hold the record for obvious balls called strikes by the home plate umpire.

I mentioned this to a friend of mine who was a scout for the NY Mets. He didn't deny it. But he said "Maddux always gets those calls" - like it was ok.

Bring on ABS. I would think the players would be all for it.
I made this point a few weeks ago on this board and was heavily criticized, especially by the resident Braves fans on the board. Maddux (and Glavine) made careers out of living outside the strike zone. Hall of Famers for sure, but let’s not pretend they had the same strike zones as everyone else.
 

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I made this point a few weeks ago on this board and was heavily criticized, especially by the resident Braves fans on the board. Maddux (and Glavine) made careers out of living outside the strike zone. Hall of Famers for sure, but let’s not pretend they had the same strike zones as everyone else.
So why do you think Maddux and Glavine were didn’t have the same strike zone?
 

Rick76

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I made this point a few weeks ago on this board and was heavily criticized, especially by the resident Braves fans on the board. Maddux (and Glavine) made careers out of living outside the strike zone. Hall of Famers for sure, but let’s not pretend they had the same strike zones as everyone else.
And that's the kicker - would they have been Hall of Famers if they didn't enjoy the special strike zone. Probably not.
 

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Greg Maddux must hold the record for obvious balls called strikes by the home plate umpire.

I mentioned this to a friend of mine who was a scout for the NY Mets. He didn't deny it. But he said "Maddux always gets those calls" - like it was ok.

Bring on ABS. I would think the players would be all for it.
Check out the strikeout of Brady Anderson by Greg Maddox during an interleague game. Strike 2 was at least 6 inches off the plate. Brady complained and Joe West just looked at hime and smiled(dont you show me up!) Next pitch was a foot and a half off the plate and Cowboy Joe rung him up. Needless to say Brady got tossed. That was the most egregious call I ever saw and I was not an Orioles fan!!!
 

Alphalion75

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Check out the strikeout of Brady Anderson by Greg Maddox during an interleague game. Strike 2 was at least 6 inches off the plate. Brady complained and Joe West just looked at hime and smiled(dont you show me up!) Next pitch was a foot and a half off the plate and Cowboy Joe rung him up. Needless to say Brady got tossed. That was the most egregious call I ever saw and I was not an Orioles fan!!!
So what is your theory about Maddux's strike zone?
 

Warlerski

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I made this point a few weeks ago on this board and was heavily criticized, especially by the resident Braves fans on the board. Maddux (and Glavine) made careers out of living outside the strike zone. Hall of Famers for sure, but let’s not pretend they had the same strike zones as everyone else.
Cleveland Guardians (Indians). Many people in Cleveland still believe that the 1995 World Series between Atlanta and Cleveland was rigged. Umps were calling strikes on pitches 6-8 inches off the corner.
 

Rick76

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So what is your theory about Maddux's strike zone?
It was a dynamic and undulating strike zone. I'm sure there was some quantum physics involved, because after all, we know that the umpires were rocket scientists. Bring on the ABS!!!
 

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Cleveland Guardians (Indians). Many people in Cleveland still believe that the 1995 World Series between Atlanta and Cleveland was rigged. Umps were calling strikes on pitches 6-8 inches off the corner.
So you're a disgruntled Indians fan? That makes sense.
 

Nittering Nabob

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Check out the strikeout of Brady Anderson by Greg Maddox during an interleague game. Strike 2 was at least 6 inches off the plate. Brady complained and Joe West just looked at hime and smiled(dont you show me up!) Next pitch was a foot and a half off the plate and Cowboy Joe rung him up. Needless to say Brady got tossed. That was the most egregious call I ever saw and I was not an Orioles fan!!!
Unless you're able to provide definitive video evidence to support your allegation it never happened.
 

Missileer

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So why do you think Maddux and Glavine were didn’t have the same strike zone?
My unscientific theory: Early in their careers, Maddux and Glavine were particularly adept at hitting the corners. They developed reputations for having great command, and by the mid-90s, they began pushing the boundaries, and the NL umps went along. I was in the Air Force living in Alabama during this time, and watched a lot of Braves games. I’m not a Braves hater, nor a disgruntled Pirates or Phillies fan. I just know what I was watching. Again, I acknowledge they were both great pitchers. I also strongly feel they had larger strike zones.
 
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There are people who say the strike zone was different for Ted Williams, that he had such a great eye, umps felt if he took a close pitch, it must be a ball. There might be some truth to that, but Ted Williams was arguably the greatest hitter of all-time regardless. IMHO, regardless of whether Maddux got a lot of called strikes off the plate, nobody would realistically suggest that he was not a dominant HOF pitcher. They guy won 355 games, the most in modern history.
 

Alphalion75

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My unscientific theory: Early in their careers, Maddux and Glavine were particularly adept at hitting the corners. They developed reputations for having great command, and by the mid-90s, they began pushing the boundaries, and the NL umps went along. I was in the Air Force living in Alabama during this time, and watched a lot of Braves games. I’m not a Braves hater, nor a disgruntled Pirates or Phillies fan. I just know what I was watching. Again, I acknowledge they were both great pitchers. I also strongly feel they had larger strike zones.
Maddox and Glavine knew how to play the game for sure.
 
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A lot of the things people think about Maddux have been so misconstrued over the years. So many people think of him as a soft tosser but when he came up with the Cubs, he would regularly throw 92-94 at times during games. He would coast through games with only occasionally needing to reach top velo. Add in the reading of guns now being from the hand rather than in front of home plate, and he was probably able to top out at 96-97 back then.

Yes he was known as a pinpoint control guy and yes he got away with a big strike zone. Guys like Joe West, Eric Gregg and the Wendlestats allowed him to get away with it and he was smart enough to do it when they umpired. In games where they are not the umpires and he didn't get the calls 2-3" off the plate (I hate when people say 6" off, look at the overhead shots, they weren't 6") so he moves the ball back over so that it runs back on to the corner. He was a master at late movement with all of his pitches thus balls looking off the plate that come back and catch the edge.