The next head baseball coach?

[messageboardsuperhero]

McDonnell is making over a mil now. First in the history of college baseball.

Someone should inform Strick of this zero chance of an alum taking an obviously much better job for a huge raise...

Lane might build a great resume in 3-4 years. He’s at least that far and that much winning from MSU-ready though.

Mcdonnell would be my first call. It would be a very long shot, but the AD situation makes we think we might have a puncher’s chance if we back up the brink’s truck and make him say no. Tadlock would be one of the next on my list too.

Kendall Rogers sent out an interesting tweet last night. Basically said that the new stadium was a game changer and we could go after the “best of the best” instead of just Thompson, Mingione, Sarloos, etc. No non-coach is more informed than he is about who might be interested what job. It almost sounded like he had talked to some elite coaches who said they’d at least pick up the phone and listen if Cohen reached out...

 

[5049]

Lane might build a great resume in 3-4 years. He’s at least that far and that much winning from MSU-ready though.

again

What big stage? Who cares? What stage did Cannizaro prove himself and everybody was infatuated with him. What stage did Corbin prove when he was hired at Vanderbilt, McDonnell at Vanderbilt? They were assistants at other programs. Lane has done that too, plus won at smaller schools. If anything he has a better resume

 

[HumpDawgy]

Oh, his recruiting at MSU didn't convince you? Pretty talented team we trotted out there in Omaha, what 3-4 MLB players on it now?

Ya'll are nuts

Yeah.....he did that as AN ASSISTANT COACH. He was not running our program at the time. Right now at La. Tech, they are not pulling in a top class so far.


I'm not opposed to him being our coach, but I hope Cohen has better options to interview and gets turned down by them all before he makes that hire.

 

[patdog]

Agree. He was going to be Louisville for life, and he still may be. But with the AD situation, if he's ever going to leave, now is probably the time.

 

[5049]

Yeah.....he did that as AN ASSISTANT COACH. He was not running our program at the time. Right now at La. Tech, they are not pulling in a top class so far.


I'm not opposed to him being our coach, but I hope Cohen has better options to interview and gets turned down by them all before he makes that hire.

Why would he pull in a top class that the baseball behemoth known as Louisiana Tech?

 

[5049]

Mcdonnell would be my first call. It would be a very long shot, but the AD situation makes we think we might have a puncher’s chance if we back up the brink’s truck and make him say no. Tadlock would be one of the next on my list too.

Kendall Rogers sent out an interesting tweet last night. Basically said that the new stadium was a game changer and we could go after the “best of the best” instead of just Thompson, Mingione, Sarloos, etc. No non-coach is more informed than he is about who might be interested what job. It almost sounded like he had talked to some elite coaches who said they’d at least pick up the phone and listen if Cohen reached out...

If IB somehow pulled this off, this would be like a double grand slam, and unearth of the indians

 

[engie]

I wasn't hugely high on Canni when we hired him. There's a record of that here. I thought we could have pulled a much surer thing. But I trusted Cohen on that choice and Canni won me over pretty quickly.

 

[MedDawg]

Yeah, with Corbin being able to fund a scholarship for every player, manager, stat guy, & bat girl on the team, I think he knows he's got an elite job up there in Nashville. Just a unique situation with the Vanderbilt endowment. As much as I'd love for that to happen, we ain't pulling Corbin to come down here and scrape and scratch for scholarship and grant money to fund his team. This will put us behind the 8 ball with a lot of coaches we'd like to go after. It is what it is.

35 scholarships x $20,000 per year tuition/room/board = only $700,000 per year.

Our endowment is now nearly $500 million, I imagine we could fund full academic scholarships for the whole baseball team if we really wanted to.

We could (find a way to legally) create a new scholarship fund with 51% regular students 49% baseball players and get alums to donate for it.

Think about how much our athletic revenues have grown and how much State has spent on athletic facilities over the past 10 years.

$700,000 per year is only 0.7% of our annual athletic revenues. Over the past 10 years we have spent/are spending:

$72 million on Davis Wade expansion
$55 million on Dudy Noble Field
$25 million on football facility
$11 million on basketball practice facility

We can afford to fund scholarships for the whole baseball team if we wanted.

 

[bulldogcountry1]

Sorry, Corbin would be a totally different coach when he can't give out 40+, ~$250K schollys (Vanderbilt University Tuition Summary. Tuition and fees at Vanderbilt University are $44,712 USD without financial aid. With room, board, and other fees combined, total cost of attendance is $63,532)

I feel the same way. Corbin may the best coach in the country, but he's not having to play by the same set of rules. With the kind of guys they get, they should be playing for a NC every year.

 

[HumpDawgy]

Why would he pull in a top class that the baseball behemoth known as Louisiana Tech?

Because you said he was a great recruiter. Great recruiters bring in top rated talent regardless of the school.

Not trying to get in a pissing match here, but I would rather Cohen's hiring process to be "top-down" than "middle-up". Call me crazy.

 

[5049]

Because you said he was a great recruiter. Great recruiters bring in top rated talent regardless of the school.

Not trying to get in a pissing match here, but I would rather Cohen's hiring process to be "top-down" than "middle-up". Call me crazy.

Not at Louisiana Tech. Your expectations are not accurate.

Pissing match or not, it's a discussion of a coaching hire. Your top down comment is irrelevant, of course we need to try for the big guys, and we will likely be turned down. Once we get to the middle class, Lane should be call #1 in my opinion

 

[patdog]

We couldn't allocate a set percentage of an academic scholarship for baseball players like that. Baseball players can receive an academic scholarship, but you can't have academic scholarships restricted to baseball players, no matter if that's 100% or 1% of the total number of those scholarships.

That said, I think the outrage over the scholarship advantages is a little overblown. I can promise you, we have a heck of a lot more than 11.7 scholarships on the baseball team. Schools like LSU and Vandy do have an advantage over us, but it's not 30 vs 11.7 like it looks on paper. Maybe more like 25 vs 20, that's just a wild *** guess though.

 

[BiscuitEater]

Baseball America list of top young assistants includes ..

Kevin McMullan, Virginia

• 2009 Assistant Coach of the Year
• Assisted Cavaliers winning the 2015 NC, 1[SUP]st[/SUP] in program history, and played a
• Leading role in the recruitment and development of four first round draft picks
• 49-year-old remains one of the most accomplished recruiters and respected hitting coaches in the country

Kirk Saarloos, Texas Christian

• 38-year-old, spent 7 years in the big leagues
• Rocketed to the top of the assistant coaching ranks since his playing career
• TCU recruiting coordinator and pitching coach
• He spent two years on staff at Cal State Fullerton, his alma mater, before moving to TCU
• Has landed four Top 25 recruiting classes at TCU
• Helped the Horned Frogs reach the College World Series in four straight seasons
• He is regarded as one of the best pitching coaches in the country and TCU's 2.93 ERA during his tenure ranks fifth nationally
• ** Full disclosure: TCU is a private university and can give financial aid at will

Scott Forbes, North Carolina

• 43-year-old, respected for his teaching ability
• Was pitching coach for 11 seasons and demeanor.
• Current recruiting coordinator and hitting coach

Eric Snider, Louisville
53-year-old, came to Louisville in July 2014 after 16 seasons at Illinois

• Improved Cardinals' hitters have thrived under his tutelage
• Five have been drafted in the top two rounds in the last two years
• Reputation as an excellent recruiter and earns praise for his work ethic and teaching ability

Kevin Schnall, Coastal Carolina

• 40-year-old, provided instant impact in 2016 when he returned to his alma mater after three seasons of staff at Central Florida
• Helped Coastal Carolina to its first national championship
• Standout catcher during his playing career with the Chanticleers, earning Big South Conference player of the year honors in 1999
• Regarded as a top-flight recruiter and hitting coach

Dan Fitzgerald, Dallas Baptist

• 40-year-old, former head coach at Des Moines Area (Iowa) JC for five years
• Joined DBU for the 2013 season
• Proven to be a strong recruiter, helping the Patriots become one of the top mid-major programs in the country
• 15 of Fitzgerald's signees at DBU have gone on to be drafted out of college.

 

[engie]

Not at Louisiana Tech. Your expectations are not accurate.

Pissing match or not, it's a discussion of a coaching hire. Your top down comment is irrelevant, of course we need to try for the big guys, and we will likely be turned down. Once we get to the middle class, Lane should be call #1 in my opinion

I think you are letting personal feelings lead the way on your thoughts about Burroughs.

Lane averaged 28.25 wins/yr at Northwestern St, topping out at 33 and never winning the conference before getting the La Tech job. Looking back at that job:
Mitch Gaspard averaged 35 wins/yr topping out at 43 and winning the conference twice.
John Cohen averaged 36.5 wins/yr topping out at 40 and winning the conference twice.
Dave Van Horn averaged 35.3 wins/yr topping out at 37 and winning the conference twice.
Jim Wells averaged 38.5 wins/yr topping out at 45 and winning the conference 3 times.
It's a coaching factory job that he didn't measure up to his predecessors in by any available measure.

Now, he had a good first year at La Tech which bares watching while inheriting a good situation from Goff. Not at the level Mingione and Thompson have had success -- but success. In 3-5 years with continued program advancement and a couple of regionals, he might be ready for an SEC opportunity. But he isn't yet.

 

[KurtRambis4]

If the guy is an elite

recruiter, he's going to do it wherever he is at.

Now, obviously, the level will be different at certain schools.

 

[ababyatemydingo]

35 scholarships x $20,000 per year tuition/room/board = only $700,000 per year.

Our endowment is now nearly $500 million, I imagine we could fund full academic scholarships for the whole baseball team if we really wanted to.

We could (find a way to legally) create a new scholarship fund with 51% regular students 49% baseball players and get alums to donate for it.

Think about how much our athletic revenues have grown and how much State has spent on athletic facilities over the past 10 years.

$700,000 per year is only 0.7% of our annual athletic revenues. Over the past 10 years we have spent/are spending:

$72 million on Davis Wade expansion
$55 million on Dudy Noble Field
$25 million on football facility
$11 million on basketball practice facility

We can afford to fund scholarships for the whole baseball team if we wanted.

Pretty sure if we could (and if the academic structure within the school and the state would allow it), we'd already be doing it, and Polk wouldn't have been fighting the NCAA about it for years, and ignoring the play on the field.

 

[5049]

I think you are letting personal feelings lead the way on your thoughts about Burroughs.

Haha, assume much? I know nothing of this personal thing you speak. Never met Lane. Sounds like a reach to me. It's ok though, you are starting to understand that he's a good coach and you're grasping at ways to discredit him (and me) now

He also took a 16 win team and turned them into a 30 win team and kept them there. Conveniently left that out

If you want to know why Burroughs is personal to me, it's because we damn near won a title with players he primarily recruited (2 great classes in a row, multiple MLB guys) and the level of grit dropped off after that, we started recruiting those 'I' perfect game players whose sweat could cure cancer

 

[5049]

recruiter, he's going to do it wherever he is at.

Now, obviously, the level will be different at certain schools.

Humpdawgy's words were "top class" and "top rated"

ain't happening at La Tech bro, at least not early on

 

[8dog]

Schlossnagle is actually very outspoken about the inequities. Oconner at virginia is a big winner in this

 

[engie]

Haha, assume much? I know nothing of this personal thing you speak. Never met Lane. Sounds like a reach to me.

It's a fair assumption considering you are pining your *** off for a guy that's been a head coach for half a decade and never made an NCAA tournament, won his league at a place where the coach always wins that league, or even won at a rate greater than 5 of his 6 predecessors... He has literally been better than only one single guy they have had there.

It's ok though, you are starting to understand that he's a good coach and you're grasping at ways to discredit him (and me) now

"Grasping" at his full sample size. But you are right... My goal is to shortchange MSU**. Let's hire Raffo!11!1 After all, he averages the same amount of wins. 28.7/yr. I guess that's actually a little more.

He also took a 16 win team and turned them into a 30 win team and kept them there. Conveniently left that out

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At a place everyone and their brother has parlayed into an SEC gig. Half of which eventually proved to be mediocre at best coaches. He didn't win big there. Second least of anyone in the last 25 years.

If you want to know why Burroughs is personal to me, it's because we damn near won a title with players he primarily recruited (2 great classes in a row, multiple MLB guys) and the level of grit dropped off after that, we started recruiting those 'I' perfect game players whose sweat could cure cancer

"He primarily recruited" is a cute line. How many of Butch's guys have made it up compared to Lane's? Is it 5-2 or 6-2?

But I'm with you. I hate those SEC championship and national seed teams***

ETA: and just to be clear — I’m not saying he can’t be a great. I think he’ll probably end up being a pretty good coach and get a chance somewhere. I’m saying he hasn’t proven it enough to deserve to prove it at MSU yet.

 

[KurtRambis4]

If the guy is an

elite recruiter, it will show, regardless of where he's at, chief.

 

[MSUDC11]

I’ve just seen programs like Texas and South Carolina whiff on the big names like O’Sullivan, Mainieri, and Savage in recent years, so I’m a little skeptical of our ability to pull off a Saban or Calipari type huge name hire.

That said, if Mingione is the guy, that’s still a really good hire. Great recruiter and cut from the same cloth as Cohen. Regardless of how strange some of the IB’s coaching decisions could be, I don’t think you can deny that he did great things for us, and Nick was a big part of that.

 

[5049]

I’ve just seen programs like Texas and South Carolina whiff on the big names like O’Sullivan, Mainieri, and Savage in recent years, so I’m a little skeptical of our ability to pull off a Saban or Calipari type huge name hire.

That said, if Mingione is the guy, that’s still a really good hire. Great recruiter and cut from the same cloth as Cohen. Regardless of how strange some of the IB’s coaching decisions could be, I don’t think you can deny that he did great things for us, and Nick was a big part of that.

I am not a big fan of Mingione personally, but that's just me

 

[Todd4State]

Baseball America list of top young assistants includes ..

Kevin McMullan, Virginia

• 2009 Assistant Coach of the Year
• Assisted Cavaliers winning the 2015 NC, 1[SUP]st[/SUP] in program history, and played a
• Leading role in the recruitment and development of four first round draft picks
• 49-year-old remains one of the most accomplished recruiters and respected hitting coaches in the country

Kirk Saarloos, Texas Christian

• 38-year-old, spent 7 years in the big leagues
• Rocketed to the top of the assistant coaching ranks since his playing career
• TCU recruiting coordinator and pitching coach
• He spent two years on staff at Cal State Fullerton, his alma mater, before moving to TCU
• Has landed four Top 25 recruiting classes at TCU
• Helped the Horned Frogs reach the College World Series in four straight seasons
• He is regarded as one of the best pitching coaches in the country and TCU's 2.93 ERA during his tenure ranks fifth nationally
• ** Full disclosure: TCU is a private university and can give financial aid at will

Scott Forbes, North Carolina

• 43-year-old, respected for his teaching ability
• Was pitching coach for 11 seasons and demeanor.
• Current recruiting coordinator and hitting coach

Eric Snider, Louisville
53-year-old, came to Louisville in July 2014 after 16 seasons at Illinois

• Improved Cardinals' hitters have thrived under his tutelage
• Five have been drafted in the top two rounds in the last two years
• Reputation as an excellent recruiter and earns praise for his work ethic and teaching ability

Kevin Schnall, Coastal Carolina

• 40-year-old, provided instant impact in 2016 when he returned to his alma mater after three seasons of staff at Central Florida
• Helped Coastal Carolina to its first national championship
• Standout catcher during his playing career with the Chanticleers, earning Big South Conference player of the year honors in 1999
• Regarded as a top-flight recruiter and hitting coach

Dan Fitzgerald, Dallas Baptist

• 40-year-old, former head coach at Des Moines Area (Iowa) JC for five years
• Joined DBU for the 2013 season
• Proven to be a strong recruiter, helping the Patriots become one of the top mid-major programs in the country
• 15 of Fitzgerald's signees at DBU have gone on to be drafted out of college.

Knowing Cohen I wouldn't be surprised if he goes after one of the guys on this list. I think he may go after Marc Calvi at South Alabama if he tries to get someone with experience.

 

[blacklistedbully]

Ole Miss would hire him in a New York minute. imagine the multiple orgasms as they won baseball recruiting year-after-year.

 

[bulldogcountry1]

One thing is for sure. There are a lot of names being thrown out that our fans could never spell or pronounce

 

[olblue.sixpack]

Guess I didn’t know Vandy had that kind of advantage.

I don’t think they do.

 

[olblue.sixpack]

What if the guys have a good run this year under Henderson? Not a sexy hire but going to be hard not to let him run with it.

That would be the worst thing that could happen.

 

[ababyatemydingo]

I don’t think they do.

Googling isn't that hard.

https://www.baseballamerica.com/col...lars-key-college-success/#C1AJMV7F6BHy1Got.97


https://giving.vanderbilt.edu/oppvu/


http://csnbbs.com/thread-811330.html


https://www.secrant.com/rant/sec-football/vandy-advantage/57349686/