The New Lounge

[Ghost of Dattier]

I’m still waiting on him to make his case.

Make sure you have a book, or one of those little cups with the ball on a string. Misrepresenting what I did or didn't say won't troll me into engaging with you, little one.

Apologies for triggering you so badly with the graphic image of how your daddy controls you, @KDSTONE .

 

[AcnYoda]

Make sure you have a book, or one of those little cups with the ball on a string. Misrepresenting what I did or didn't say won't troll me into engaging with you, little one.

Apologies for triggering you so badly with the graphic image of how your daddy controls you, @KDSTONE .

Mmm hmmm.

 

[dukesince91]

lol Accusation is confession. Just like @KDSTONE 's laughable crap-take straight from our President about left-wing rhetoric and violence. (I hope he lubed up his hand real, real good before he reached in and moved your mouth like that, kd. Talk about getting your talking points spoon/suppository-fed to you, amirite, @dukesince91 ? Huh? amirite? Come on, high 5...)

You're the one demanding answers from me, son. I'm just telling you no. Repeatedly.

You talk about Trump being immoral and you post this trash. That was sick.

 

[AcnYoda]

You talk about Trump being immoral and you post this trash. That was sick.

When people stray from the common sense policy arguments and jump to hate and attacking Trump, they automatically prove to be brainwashed and affected by the media narrative. It’s sad how weak minded some are. It also happened during Covid. The Dems use the media to create a narrative that controls weak minded people, and they hope to sow anger and division. I don’t hate Biden or Kamala or the Democratic party. Eventually they’ll either return to common sense policy talking points and stop attacking Trump or they’ll become even more irrelevant.

Ghost is being manipulated and used by the media to spread hate and division. I feel bad for him. Hopefully he wakes up? Until then, he isn’t even making an argument anymore. Now, it’s just name calling and telling others not to engage with him. That’s what happens when you are too far gone down that rabbit hole. You stop making any common sense.

 

[Ghost of Dattier]

You talk about Trump being immoral and you post this trash. That was sick.

The leader of the free world? 34 time felon, liable for sexual assault, brags about getting away with sexual assault?
vs
a rando who said the word "lubed" on a message board.

Bu-bu-bu both sides!

 

[dukesince91]

The leader of the free world? 34 time felon, liable for sexual assault, brags about getting away with sexual assault?
vs
a rando who said the word "lubed" on a message board.

Bu-bu-bu both sides!

You’re the one with the sick thoughts. Again, you get all of your talking points from the msm. 34 time felon and he’s not locked up. Lol

 

[KDSTONE]

When people stray from the common sense policy arguments and jump to hate and attacking Trump, they automatically prove to be brainwashed and affected by the media narrative. It’s sad how weak minded some are. It also happened during Covid. The Dems use the media to create a narrative that controls weak minded people, and they hope to sow anger and division. I don’t hate Biden or Kamala or the Democratic party. Eventually they’ll either return to common sense policy talking points and stop attacking Trump or they’ll become even more irrelevant.

Ghost is being manipulated and used by the media to spread hate and division. I feel bad for him. Hopefully he wakes up? Until then, he isn’t even making an argument anymore. Now, it’s just name calling and telling others not to engage with him. That’s what happens when you are too far gone down that rabbit hole. You stop making any common sense.

Good post, but polite request not to address this poster as Ghost. We already had a Ghost and he used to run rings around this poor man’s Ghost of Dattier. Go back and check out the archives. You won’t be disappointed

 

[DuckDevil]

DeMoCrAtS nEeD tO tOnE dOwN tHe RhEtOrIc!!!1!!1!

 

[Ghost of Dattier]

DeMoCrAtS nEeD tO tOnE dOwN tHe RhEtOrIc!!!1!!1!

Oh, but it's cwazy, cwazy TDS... to cite exactly what our President and his followers have said and done.

 

[Ghost of Dattier]

You’re the one with the sick thoughts. Again, you get all of your talking points from the msm. 34 time felon and he’s not locked up. Lol

You forgot to laugh about how he is a credibly accused sex offender & pedophile and then laugh about how he got away with it. You know, since you have the moral high grounds and all.

 

[DuckDevil]

Meanwhile…

 

[AcnYoda]

Oh, but it's cwazy, cwazy TDS... to cite exactly what our President and his followers have said and done.

Once again. The left attacks Trump due to media brainwashing but doesn’t get into simple talking points about policy. Because there are almost Nonpolicies anyone can point to and agree with on the Democratic Party. They are insane. Attacking everything Trump and this party does. Just shows how brainwashed the left are.

 

[AcnYoda]

The leader of the free world? 34 time felon, liable for sexual assault, brags about getting away with sexual assault?
vs
a rando who said the word "lubed" on a message board.

Bu-bu-bu both sides!

It becomes obvious that someone is brainwashed when every single talking point is attack Trump.

 

[DuckDevil]

 

[Ghost of Dattier]

Oh, but gas prices are "down" in SoCal. This new guy will cite the exact price of eggs b/c apparently that's pretty good, but then he switches to "down" when it's gas because the exact price is still outrageous. That's a good way to know someone is driven by an agenda: shifting the goalposts and manipulating data according to which frame makes his side look good. No point wasting time on a guy like that when he shows his hand so early.

 

[Mac9192]

I'm not happy with what's going on. Don't know why little has changed for the better. Time will tell on Iraq. You know I voted for him. I used to think one side was good, the other was not. The sad truth is republicans are about as useless as the democrats. You go to Washington and either play their game, getting bought off in the process, or you'll be back home soon.

Nothing will change out here either. DC has managed to do one thing right, which is keep us fighting with each other.

 

[DuckDevil]

Oh, but gas prices are "down" in SoCal. This new guy will cite the exact price of eggs b/c apparently that's pretty good, but then he switches to "down" when it's gas because the exact price is still outrageous. That's a good way to know someone is driven by an agenda: shifting the goalposts and manipulating data according to which frame makes his side look good. No point wasting time on a guy like that when he shows his hand so early.

He’s a talented troll. He posts extreme, insane takes with the goal of getting the others to agree with him, which ultimately reveals them for what they are and shows how easily they can be manipulated, and they just eat it up. I think it’s insanely funny, and I’m glad he’s here. I respect the game. I’m excited to see what he can get them to support next.

 

[AcnYoda]

He’s a talented troll. He posts extreme, insane takes with the goal of getting the others to agree with him, which ultimately reveals them for what they are and shows how easily they can be manipulated, and they just eat it up. I think it’s insanely funny, and I’m glad he’s here. I respect the game. I’m excited to see what he can get them to support next.

Nobody has to agree with either side, I’m personally only trying to have a legit conversation that doesn’t attack Trump. But actually focuses on policy. Policy are things like, and I keep asking this, is it a good idea to neuter the IRGC? Is it a good idea to make sure they don’t get a nuclear bomb or 11 of them? Is it good for America that we took out Maduro In Venezuela? Does this make sense? If ultimately these policies put America in a stronger better place and prevents a lot more deaths and a lot bigger wars in the future, and this weakens China, or weakens Iran, or weekends Russia, is this a good thing? The hard the real question. I know, the mainstream media and the Dems for solely political reasons want to just attack Trump. But I’m not interested in being manipulated or having division from the mainstream media.
We all see thefraud happening out there, do we care if its Dem or Red? I don’t!! I want the Fraud and abuse of taxpayer funds to stop. I want to keep our borders secure, I want our country to be and stay safe from massive wars in the future. Past presidents both Red and Blue kept kicking the Iran can down the road. I want action not words. I can go on and on. But I’m not pro Trump or anti. I’m pro America. If this bothers some folks here that’s on them. I will always love our country and bd Pro USA. Anti IRGC and I want our country Strong. Not woke and weak.

 

[DuckDevil]

I'm not happy with what's going on. Don't know why little has changed for the better. Time will tell on Iraq. You know I voted for him. I used to think one side was good, the other was not. The sad truth is republicans are about as useless as the democrats. You go to Washington and either play their game, getting bought off in the process, or you'll be back home soon.

Nothing will change out here either. DC has managed to do one thing right, which is keep us fighting with each other.

To see real change in DC, I think these things need to happen:

First, all partisan gerrymandering needs to be made illegal. Districts should be drawn based on population only, not race, not voting tendencies, and not urban vs rural. About 70 percent of congressional districts are currently “safe,” meaning they’re not competitive. This must change. Politicians need to answer to the voters instead of their corporate donors.

Second, the House of Representatives should be expanded to account for the massive population growth the country has experienced over the last 100 years. Its membership was capped by the Reapportionment Act of 1929. At the time, each representative served about 283,000 people. Today, that number has ballooned to around 765,000 on average.

Politics should be based locally on issues that matter to the people these representatives are supposed to represent. Shrink the districts and make these people accountable to their constituents.

Third, Citizens United must be overturned. It’s difficult to overstate how damaging that Supreme Court ruling has been. It has allowed wealthy donors to exert tremendous influence over politicians and led to the rise of Super PACs that can raise and spend unlimited amounts of money, often on negative advertising that deepens division and hate.

Foreign money and influence should be completely prohibited. Ideally, election funding would be capped and distributed equally among candidates. Elections shouldn’t be decided by who can spend the most on ads. They should be decided by the ideas and policy that candidates present to their prospective voters.

Finally, term limits and age caps should be implemented across the board. I used to believe voters should always have the unrestricted right to choose their representatives, but recent years have shown that view to be incredibly naive.

The current system rewards those who hold onto power the longest, not those who are most effective. That needs to change. Public office should not be a lifelong career. It should be a period of service that a person dedicates themselves to, and then, when the time comes, they step down and relinquish that power to the next person, just like Washington did. This ensures that fresh ideas and policies are constantly added to the conversation.

Term limits should apply to both Congress and the Supreme Court. And if we generally expect people to retire around 70, that standard should apply here as well. The country shouldn’t be shaped by leaders who are disconnected from the present and stuck in a time that no longer exists.

This country cannot continue on this current path if it wants to survive. We have to fix the foundation of who and what represents us. And once we do that, we can have real discussions about policy and the direction we want to go as a nation.

 

[KDSTONE]

He’s a talented troll. He posts extreme, insane takes with the goal of getting the others to agree with him, which ultimately reveals them for what they are and shows how easily they can be manipulated, and they just eat it up. I think it’s insanely funny, and I’m glad he’s here. I respect the game. I’m excited to see what he can get them to support next.

Can you enlighten us as to a single policy position I support now that I didn’t support before yoda showed up?
What is your near-daily gas price update if not a troll? We’re all aware of what gas prices are although some of us are more affected than others, but we all know the war in Iran is unpopular and gas prices are higher. We’re also aware that when Biden was President the Leftists cheered on rising gas prices ( People will drive less! or People will start buying electric!) or were silent altogether for four years. You didn’t call your buddy out for his insane posts after the latest assassination attempt.
Don’t forget: silence is complicity ! Your new best friend always says.

Word to the wise: if you’re gonna try to pass yourself off as the rational one of you two, DoN’t PoSt LiKe ThIs. It makes you look as unhinged as the other one

 

[AcnYoda]

To see real change in DC, I think these things need to happen:

First, all partisan gerrymandering needs to be made illegal. Districts should be drawn based on population only, not race, not voting tendencies, and not urban vs rural. About 70 percent of congressional districts are currently “safe,” meaning they are not competitive. This must change. Politicians need to answer to the voters instead of their corporate donors.

Second, the House of Representatives should be expanded to account for the massive population growth the country has experienced over the last 100 years. Its membership was capped by the Reapportionment Act of 1929. At the time, each representative served about 283,000 people. Today, that number has ballooned to around 765,000 on average.

Politics should be based locally on issues that matter to the people these representatives are supposed to represent. Shrink the districts and make these people accountable to their constituents.

Third, Citizens United should be overturned. It’s difficult to overstate how damaging that Supreme Court ruling has been. It has allowed wealthy donors to exert tremendous influence over politicians and led to the rise of Super PACs that can raise and spend unlimited amounts of money, often on negative advertising that deepens division and hate.

Foreign money and influence should be completely prohibited. Ideally, election funding would be capped and distributed equally among candidates. Elections shouldn’t be decided by who can spend the most on ads. They should be decided by the ideas and policy that candidates present to voters.

Finally, term limits and age caps should be implemented across the board. I used to believe voters should always have the unrestricted right to choose their representatives, but recent years have shown that view to be incredibly naive.

The current system rewards those who hold onto power the longest, not those who are most effective. That needs to change. Public office should not be a lifelong career. It should be a period of service that a person dedicates themselves to.

Term limits should apply to both Congress and the Supreme Court. And if we generally expect people to retire around 70, that standard should apply here as well. The country shouldn’t be shaped by leaders who are disconnected from the present and stuck in a time that no longer exists.

This country cannot continue on this current path if it wants to survive. We have to fix the foundation of who and what represents us. And once we do that, we can have real discussions about policy and the direction we want to go as a nation.

Great post.

 

[DuckDevil]

Nobody has to agree with either side, I’m personally only trying to have a legit conversation that doesn’t attack Trump. But actually focuses on policy. Policy are things like, and I keep asking this, is it a good idea to neuter the IRGC? Is it a good idea to make sure they don’t get a nuclear bomb or 11 of them? Is it good for America that we took out Maduro In Venezuela? Does this make sense? If ultimately these policies put America in a stronger better place and prevents a lot more deaths and a lot bigger wars in the future, and this weakens China, or weakens Iran, or weekends Russia, is this a good thing? The hard the real question. I know, the mainstream media and the Dems for solely political reasons want to just attack Trump. But I’m not interested in being manipulated or having division from the mainstream media.
We all see thefraud happening out there, do we care if its Dem or Red? I don’t!! I want the Fraud and abuse of taxpayer funds to stop. I want to keep our borders secure, I want our country to be and stay safe from massive wars in the future. Past presidents both Red and Blue kept kicking the Iran can down the road. I want action not words. I can go on and on. But I’m not pro Trump or anti. I’m pro America. If this bothers some folks here that’s on them. I will always love our country and bd Pro USA. Anti IRGC and I want our country Strong. Not woke and weak.

 

[AcnYoda]

Can you enlighten us as to a single policy position I support now that I didn’t support before yoda showed up?
What is your near-daily gas price update if not a troll? We’re all aware of what gas prices are although some of us are more affected than others, but we all know the war in Iran is unpopular and gas prices are higher. We’re also aware that when Biden was President the Leftists cheered on rising gas prices ( People will drive less! or People will start buying electric!) or were silent altogether for four years. You didn’t call your buddy out for his insane posts after the latest assassination attempt.
Don’t forget: silence is complicity ! Your new best friend always says.

Word to the wise: if you’re gonna try to pass yourself off as the rational one of you two, DoN’t PoSt LiKe ThIs. It makes you look as unhinged as the other one

I like posts where a poster talks about ways to improve the government and improve our country. These types of rational posts that don’t go straight to attacking Trump are the answer in my opinion.. and this is what I think some of the Uber wealthy don’t want us to do. They don’t want us to look for Solutions. Improve our government and take more control for the people. The Mega wealthy people want to keep us fighting and bickering, and picking sides, whether that be Black Lives Matter, or now let’s all hate Trump, or the LGBTQ plus nonsense, it’s all designed by the manipulators to try and control the people by keeping us fighting.

There’s a
called Chud the builder online, trying to prove a point about freedom of speech. He walks up to people of color and uses the N-word and says they are chimping out when they get mad, I think what he’s trying to say is don’t let people’s words dictate our emotions, we control our emotions not what the media or other people say to us. Obviously I don’t support the guy online using the N-word. But I think the point he’s trying to make is a lesson for all Americans., don’t allow ourselves to be triggered or manipulated by the far left, leaning media, or by Trump, or by some clown online, trying intentionally to trigger people with his words to prove a . Everything is not racist, everything is not woke, everything is not bad about Trump. We should all make an effort to communicate and get along regardless of race, regardless of gender, regardless of sexual orientation, regardless of what pronouns people use. We are all human beings made in the Perfect image of GOD. And together, we are much stronger than we are divided.

My messaging is simple, let’s all come together to make our government our country, better and stronger and more United. Let’s not allow outside forces to try and manipulate us to keep us divided and disempower us.

No, I know by saying this, other posters here are going to say I’m a troll, or I’m a Trump supporter, or whatever else, none of that is true true. I’m the same as all of you a human being with all the same once, fears, desires, and strengths and weaknesses that we all have. I’m no better than anyone else. I’m no worse than anyone else but I am pro America and I am pro unity. That we all come together to make this country a better place and safer place to live not just for us, but for our children and their children and their children’s children.

 

[KDSTONE]

I like posts where a poster talks about ways to improve the government and improve our country. These types of rational posts that don’t go straight to attacking Trump are the answer in my opinion.. and this is what I think some of the Uber wealthy don’t want us to do. They don’t want us to look for Solutions. Improve our government and take more control for the people. The Mega wealthy people want to keep us fighting and bickering, and picking sides, whether that be Black Lives Matter, or now let’s all hate Trump, or the LGBTQ plus nonsense, it’s all designed by the manipulators to try and control the people by keeping us fighting.

There’s a
called Chud the builder online, trying to prove a point about freedom of speech. He walks up to people of color and uses the N-word and says they are chimping out when they get mad, I think what he’s trying to say is don’t let people’s words dictate our emotions, we control our emotions not what the media or other people say to us. Obviously I don’t support the guy online using the N-word. But I think the point he’s trying to make is a lesson for all Americans., don’t allow ourselves to be triggered or manipulated by the far left, leaning media, or by Trump, or by some clown online, trying intentionally to trigger people with his words to prove a . Everything is not racist, everything is not woke, everything is not bad about Trump. We should all make an effort to communicate and get along regardless of race, regardless of gender, regardless of sexual orientation, regardless of what pronouns people use. We are all human beings made in the Perfect image of GOD. And together, we are much stronger than we are divided.

My messaging is simple, let’s all come together to make our government our country, better and stronger and more United. Let’s not allow outside forces to try and manipulate us to keep us divided and disempower us.

No, I know by saying this, other posters here are going to say I’m a troll, or I’m a Trump supporter, or whatever else, none of that is true true. I’m the same as all of you a human being with all the same once, fears, desires, and strengths and weaknesses that we all have. I’m no better than anyone else. I’m no worse than anyone else but I am pro America and I am pro unity. That we all come together to make this country a better place and safer place to live not just for us, but for our children and their children and their children’s children.

True. And you’ve managed to make your points without resorting to name calling and intentionally offensive jokes. Bravo

 

[AcnYoda]

True. And you’ve managed to make your points without resorting to name calling and intentionally offensive jokes. Bravo

Exactly. That’s what these politicians do all day everyday and then nothing gets accomplished. No need for name calling. No offensive jokes, nobody is trolling here, the idea is to Hsve a civil debate or conversation that can see how to fix things. It starts with us the people. And I’m not picking sides. Well, not politically. I pick the Pro America side. What can we together come up with that brings us together. TEAM,
Together
Everyone
achieves
More.

 

[DuckDevil]

No amount of meetings with oil executives can dig this administration out of the hole they’ve dug for themselves. So far, Trump has been able to manipulate the markets with well timed Truth Social posts right before they close or open, often through reports of fake peace negotiations or escalation posts like the one he put out this morning. He will flip flop and start talking about peace by Friday to try to keep the bottom of the market from falling out before the weekend.

However, that approach is starting to lose its effectiveness as gas prices climb and reality sets in. It also only works when there’s actual oil supply in the system. Part of the reason it’s worked as long as it has is because the US press corps hasn’t consistently called out his or his administration’s lies and too often takes them at face value, which is frankly unforgivable, allowing those narratives to go largely unchecked. That window is closing, though, and this is why.

When the war started, a lot of oil was already in transit. It takes this oil a while to reach its destination, but those ships have now docked, that oil is being processed and used, now you will begin to see countries’ reserves start to dry up as new oil shipments don’t come in. This will hit poor countries first, but the pressure will slowly work its way up the ladder.

Real shortages are about to begin, and they will ripple through the world economy over the next few weeks. In the US, I don’t think we’ll see actual fuel shortages because we’re a net producer, but we’re not immune to the price hikes caused by supply and demand. Oil is a global commodity after all. As a result, I would expect to see record high gas prices in the coming days or weeks and with that increased prices across the board on literally everything else you buy. Things are going to get worse, and Trump is not going to be able to BS his way out of it.

The US has lost control of this war in that we can no longer unilaterally dictate the ending. Iran was much stronger than the administration anticipated. The landscape has now changed, our allies are now openly calling the administration out for its incompetence, which would have never happened before the war started. They will increasingly work around us, which will further erode US influence and power around the world, weakening us in the long run. Trump’s best and perhaps only move left is to walk away from this war completely and declare “victory” even though none of his prewar objectives have been accomplished.

It would be in all of our best interests, regardless of political affiliation, to pretend that the outcome is a win until he can be restrained after midterms, because if he escalates this further, Iran has the ability to knock out even more oil production in the region, which will only exacerbate the energy crisis. It’s sad that we have to coddle the ego of an old man, but I think it’s the only way to get through the next few months without him further damaging the country. I think it’s increasingly likely this will end with no deal and the strait being firmly under Iranian control for the foreseeable future, which would arguably be one of the biggest strategic defeats the US has ever suffered in a war.

I see little reason for Iran to negotiate a new nuclear deal at this point, and even less reason to trust this administration to uphold anything they sign. With everything that’s happened and hardliners now firmly in control, the pressure is going to shift toward deterrence, and not compromise with the US. That doesn’t guarantee they’ll race for a bomb, but it makes sense from a strategic perspective.

I also don’t think it’s a coincidence they’re meeting with both Russia and Pakistan at the moment, both nuclear powers. Russia also happens to be the repository for the 25,000 pounds of uranium that was removed from Iran as part of the JCPOA. Pakistan gave them the centrifuges they’ve used for enrichment.

From the US perspective, any goodwill we had throughout the world has been destroyed by Trump. Through his trade wars, general incompetence, and vulgar behavior, he has removed any leverage we had with other nations that could have been used to help end the war. It will take decades to rebuild what he’s destroyed, if it can ever be rebuilt at all.

The fact remains, it’s time to end this war before it sends the world into an economic depression or worse. But hey, I’m just a person on a message board, what do I know?

 

[AcnYoda]

No amount of meetings with oil executives can dig this administration out of the hole they’ve dug for themselves. So far, Trump has been able to manipulate the markets with well timed Truth Social posts right before they close or open, often through reports of fake peace negotiations or escalation posts like the one he put out this morning. He will flip flop and start talking about peace by Friday to try to keep the bottom of the market from falling out before the weekend.

However, that approach is starting to lose its effectiveness as gas prices climb and reality sets in. It also only works when there’s actual oil supply in the system. Part of the reason it’s worked as long as it has is because the US press corps hasn’t consistently called out his or his administration’s lies and too often takes them at face value, which is frankly unforgivable, allowing those narratives to go largely unchecked. That window is closing, though, and this is why.

When the war started, a lot of oil was already in transit. It takes this oil a while to reach its destination, but those ships have now docked, that oil is being processed and used, now you will begin to see countries’ reserves start to dry up as new oil shipments don’t come in. This will hit poor countries first, but the pressure will slowly work its way up the ladder.

Real shortages are about to begin, and they will ripple through the world economy over the next few weeks. In the US, I don’t think we’ll see actual fuel shortages because we’re a net producer, but we’re not immune to the price hikes caused by supply and demand. Oil is a global commodity after all. As a result, I would expect to see record high gas prices in the coming days or weeks and with that increased prices across the board on literally everything else you buy. Things are going to get worse, and Trump is not going to be able to BS his way out of it.

The US has lost control of this war in that we can no longer unilaterally dictate the ending. Iran was much stronger than the administration anticipated. The landscape has now changed, our allies are now openly calling the administration out for its incompetence, which would have never happened before the war started. They will increasingly work around us, which will further erode US influence and power around the world, weakening us in the long run. Trump’s best and perhaps only move left is to walk away from this war completely and declare “victory” even though none of his prewar objectives have been accomplished.

It would be in all of our best interests, regardless of political affiliation, to pretend that the outcome is a win until he can be restrained after midterms, because if he escalates this further, Iran has the ability to knock out even more oil production in the region, which will only exacerbate the energy crisis. It’s sad that we have to coddle the ego of an old man, but I think it’s the only way to get through the next few months without him further damaging the country. I think it’s increasingly likely this will end with no deal and the strait being firmly under Iranian control for the foreseeable future, which would arguably be one of the biggest strategic defeats the US has ever suffered in a war.

I see little reason for Iran to negotiate a new nuclear deal at this point, and even less reason to trust this administration to uphold anything they sign. With everything that’s happened and hardliners now firmly in control, the pressure is going to shift toward deterrence, and not compromise with the US. That doesn’t guarantee they’ll race for a bomb, but it makes sense from a strategic perspective.

I also don’t think it’s a coincidence they’re meeting with both Russia and Pakistan at the moment, both nuclear powers. Russia also happens to be the repository for the 25,000 pounds of uranium that was removed from Iran as part of the JCPOA. Pakistan gave them the centrifuges they’ve used for enrichment.

From the US perspective, any goodwill we had throughout the world has been destroyed by Trump. Through his trade wars, general incompetence, and vulgar behavior, he has removed any leverage we had with other nations that could have been used to help end the war. It will take decades to rebuild what he’s destroyed, if it can ever be rebuilt at all.

The fact remains, it’s time to end this war before it sends the world into an economic depression or worse. But hey, I’m just a person on a message board, what do I know?

This is all mainstream fake news talking points that no OBJECTIVE person believes. The US is holding ALL THE CARDS. The IRGC military is for the most part obliterated, they don’t control the Strait, they have NO NAVY, NO AIR FORCE, NO MISSILE AIR DEFENSES LEFT, NO INTELLIGENCE, Their money is drying up, their soldiers are not going to get paid soon, China and Russia aren’t defending them at all, and the USA has a massive force in the region about to destroy what little military is left of the IRGC. it’s essentially OVER FOR THEM.

NO OBJECTIVE PERSON reads all of these LITERAL FACTS ABOVE and suggests we are losing this military operation, I don’t even call it a war, because the other side is HIDING SCARED underground like little rats. They aren’t fighting, they’re hiding. Let me learn you something…

1) The US military is going to knock out whatever targets are left of the IRGC.

2) The US will likely take a few islands processing oil, and control them.

3) The US will eliminate most of the remaining hard line IRGC leaders.

4) Then The remaining few Iranian leaders left will either make a deal to give us the nuclear dust over there, or we will go in and take it, with little or no resistance from the IRGC at that point because their power will be knocked out, their command and control will be knocked out, and they will be hiding even deeper underground. Many of their so called leaders will surrender and tell us where they are, who’s left, what they are planning to do, and that regime will be systematically eliminated. That’s what is going to happen. PERIOD.

IRAN IS NOT WINNING THIS, NOT IN ANY WAY OTHER THAN THEY SADLY HAVE SOME OF OUR MAINSTREAM MEDIA SPREADING FALSE AND FAKE INACCURATE PROPAGANDA HERE TO OUR MICE BUT NAIVE AMERICANS TO USE OUR DISHONEST FAKE NEWS MEDIA TO TRY AND CONVINCE THE GOOD BUT NAIVE AMERICAN PEOPLE THAT WE ARE NOT WINNNG. THE TRUTH IS WE ARE WINNING IN EVERY MEASURABLE WAY!!

In my opinion, this IRGC regime currently in power are as bad or MAYBE EVEN worse than the Nazi‘s were. Except for that the Nazi regime wanted to kill Jews. this regime wants to destroy its neighbors, all of Europe, death to America, AND ALL OF THE JEWS!! To me, this makes them way worse. They had to be neutered if not completely dismantled. We all thought 911 was bad? If the IRGC got a nuclear weapon, they’d use it 100% for sure, because they don’t case about their own people, to them killing the world and destroying everything brings their Anti Christ false GOD riding in on a white horse to begin. 7 years of death and destruction to the world. That’s their end goal. to bring death and destruction and create a one world Religion, their own, a one world Currency, and to destroy everyone and everything in the process. We should all be grateful for what our extraordinary military has done. And thank them, not criticize them. But I get it. People are easily manipulated by the dishonest media. Guys, THEY HAVE AN AGENDA. It’s not real info they are reporting, it’s designed to prop up China and our adversaries because they know they can’t beat us militarily, so they want to destroy America from within by creating division within our own society. Thsts what Black Lives Matter was about. Division. That’s what the LGBTQ plus was all about. DIVISION. Thats what The New unrecognizable Democrat part of today is trying to sow. MORE DIVISION, ANTI TRUMP. If they can divide us as a people internally, like the art of war, they believe they can beat us militarily, and take Taiwan. They being China. Russia and what’s life of Iran, and North Korea. We need to become more United as a people. Not allow ourselves to be so divided. That’s what they are counting on our media to do. To divide us.
that is all.

 

[DuckDevil]

 

[AcnYoda]

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How much more per gallon is it worth paying so that Iran doesn’t get a nuke and hold the world hostage? $1 dollar more? $2 dollars more? Let’s do the math. A car holds let’s say 20 gallons of gas, we fill up once a week on average. Gas is an extra $2 a gallon. That’s $40 extra A week, $160 a month extra to ensure Iran doesn’t Nuke a neighbor killing millions of innocent people? And that’s only for a few months. And then prices come back down. Is this worth it? I would say so.

Of course you found that info on NBC fake news propaganda trying to convince Americans this is an unbearable temporary cost? it’s just fake news noise.

 

[DuckDevil]

Here are two separate videos of Republican congressmen blatantly lying on national TV this morning. I think it perfectly illustrates how Republicans have learned from Trump that you can simply lie to the Republican base and they’ll never question it.

Every single American has to drive past multiple gas stations every day on the way to work, they have to go to the grocery store, where prices continue to rise by the day. Anyone who has tried to finance anything knows that interest rates continue to rise. Yet these guys lie to their faces, saying prices are down and everything is great.

What does it say about how they view their own voters if they think they won’t notice what they’re paying at the pump, bank, or the store?

 

[Mac9192]

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How much more per gallon is it worth paying so that Iran doesn’t get a nuke and hold the world hostage? $1 dollar more? $2 dollars more? Let’s do the math. A car holds let’s say 20 gallons of gas, we fill up once a week on average. Gas is an extra $2 a gallon. That’s $40 extra A week, $160 a month extra to ensure Iran doesn’t Nuke a neighbor killing millions of innocent people? And that’s only for a few months. And then prices come back down. Is this worth it? I would say so.

None of us like gas prices where they are right now, I know I don't. I just got off the phone with a guy who's about 65, graduated from Georgia Tech, owned and ran a packaging company that when he sold it, employed roughly 125 employees. This guy isn't MAGA. He says something very similar to what this Yoda fella is saying. His opinion is that what is going on in Iran has to be done, and that gas prices will come back down.

So if this is correct, will you come back and say you were wrong?

 

[DuckDevil]

None of us like gas prices where they are right now, I know I don't. I just got off the phone with a guy who's about 65, graduated from Georgia Tech, owned and ran a packaging company that when he sold it, employed roughly 125 employees. This guy isn't MAGA. He says something very similar to what this Yoda fella is saying. His opinion is that what is going on in Iran has to be done, and that gas prices will come back down.

So if this is correct, will you come back and say you were wrong?

I 100% hope prices go down immediately and that what I wrote is completely wrong. I wish what Trump is saying is true, but it’s not, and this is going to get progressively worse until it ends.

This is not good for anyone, regardless of political views, because of what it could trigger in the economy, and to root for economic misery would be insane. This is bigger than one election and one president. Everyone should be rooting for a quick end to this and for a return to normalcy. This is bad for the US, it’s bad for Iran, and it’s bad for the rest of the world.

 

[AcnYoda]

I 100% hope prices go down immediately and that what I wrote is completely wrong. I wish what Trump is saying is true, but it’s not, and this is going to get progressively worse until it ends.

This is not good for anyone, regardless of political views, because of what it could trigger in the economy, and to root for economic misery would be insane. This is bigger than one election and one president. Everyone should be rooting for a quick end to this and for a return to normalcy. This is bad for the US, it’s bad for Iran, and it’s bad for the rest of the world.

I do agree with one thing you wrote here. “Everyone should be rooting for a quick end to this and for a return to normalcy”. This is what I’m hoping Praying for too. For a quick end to the IRGC demolition.

AND I don’t think anyone here, or any normal person In America should be rooting for this thing to be a forever fight. But that’s up to the IRGC. They believe thanks to our Dems and the left leaning media, that even though they are completely and totally defeated, that if they can just hide in their tunnels for long enough, that the Dems and the left leaning media will put so much pressure on our government that they will be forced to take a bad deal and leave the IRGC in power. AND ALLOW THEM TO KEEP EVEN AN INKLING OF A POSSIBILITY OF DEVELOPING A NUCLEAR BOMB..

But what we all want is for a quick end to this whole thing, for the nuclear dust to be removed, and for the IRGC to be so completely demolished that they can no longer dream of having a capability not the money to continue to develop any nuclear war capabilities whatsoever!! I can say for myself that I unequivocally this is what I want too. The moment this evil regime is completely neutered, and has NO chance WHATSOEVER at waging dangerous war on its neighbors OR the world by holding the Strait hostage, this thing can be over, the gas prices can come down to historically low numbers eventually, and that this world will be a much safer place because of what our government and our military are doing right now.

AMEN.

 

[BOOGIEMAN1914]

curiosity ask #1.....if cnn, msnow, abc,nbc,cbs....if all these sites are fake news peddling lies...ok....what news sites do you get your info from that you deem not fake

 

[Mac9192]

curiosity ask #1.....if cnn, msnow, abc,nbc,cbs....if all these sites are fake news peddling lies...ok....what news sites do you get your info from that you deem not fake

It's a good question. Not sure who's reliable. But, we know for a fact the stations you mentioned aren't. They were losing credibility over the last several years. Their commentary about Biden being mentally fit were laughed at by everyone right of center, but we were called Trumpers, kooks, liars... No offense, but you guys did the same thing to us that the media did. The infamous debate answered any questions concerning Biden. Since it was live and millions saw it firsthand, the corporate media couldn't defend Ol Joe any longer. That night exposed so much. It was one of the most painful things to watch too. I still say what they did to that man for four years was criminal.

They got exposed for being full blown liars, because those same people were praising Biden's mental health all the way up to the start of the debate. We all know there's much more, but this example may be the most damning to their credibility.

 

[AcnYoda]

curiosity ask #1.....if cnn, msnow, abc,nbc,cbs....if all these sites are fake news peddling lies...ok....what news sites do you get your info from that you deem not fake

very good question. I don’t trust many. That’s for sure. Generally speaking, as long as the news source isn’t immediately anti Trump, totally negative against this administration, and seems semi neutral, that’s a great starting point. After that, I want my news to try and report both sides of things, to be fair, to not trash our own country and government right in the middle of us negotiating with this tyrannical IRGC regime. I believe if our media, the Dems, republicans, all sounds unified that we are winning this battle, now a ceasefire with Iran, and that our country sounds unified, it gives us a negotiating position of peace through strength. And when we seem divided, the IRGC hsrd liners think if they sit and hide in their caves long enough, we will implode from within.

I don’t want this thing to go on for another 3-6 months or longer, but if the enemy somehow believes that they can outlast us but hiding and waiting, if I were them, that would be the strategy I’d choose.

and From everything being reported, In Anywhere from a few days to a few weeks IRAN will run out of places to store Their oil, and they will have to make the tough choices of having to turn off their oil pumping, and once it’s shut off, it can take a year to turn back on, if ever? I doubt they will let that happen. So my guess is they will 1) try and make a deal before that happens, or, 2) attack us out of desperation, probably this second option. If they attack us, we can Go ahead and obliterate all of their remaining military targets they have left, take out whatever IRGC leaders are still left, and put them in an even worse financial position they bring upon themselves by attacking us first an breaking the ceasefire. Then, they will really be in a tough pickle. Agree to give us what we are asking for, or cap their wells, shut down their biggest source of revenue, and be fineinlally devastated for a year or years. Those are tough choices for them

if we have the New York Times, CNN, ABC, and other fake news outlets in our country falsely reporting in the meantime that Iran is doing well and might be winning this thing in any way militarily, it gives those cave dwelling maniacs who are chanting Death to America a glimmer of Hope, and we need them having NO HOPE whatsoever, because…

 

[AcnYoda]

He’s a talented troll. He posts extreme, insane takes with the goal of getting the others to agree with him, which ultimately reveals them for what they are and shows how easily they can be manipulated, and they just eat it up. I think it’s insanely funny, and I’m glad he’s here. I respect the game. I’m excited to see what he can get them to support next.

This isn’t about getting the left to agree or the right to agree. The idea is to get us TO all come together more and at least publicly sound somewhat unified to our messaging to our enemies so that the IRGC surrenders, they make a deal that we the U.S. wants and can agree to, a favorable deal for the USA, and our unity dissuades China from attacking Taiwan in 2027 like is rumored to be their plan. That Taiwan attack by a China could be the start of a much much bigger actual War, like the media is assserting we are in now, we are not in a real WAR. yet. The bigger actual WAR would start If China attacks Taiwan, which WAS their alleged plan PRIOR TO US DESTROYING THE IRGC.

But, if the cheap oil they need in order to attack Taiwan is no longer controlled by Iran’s evil regime who chant Death to America EVERYDAY, and China is forced to buy at least some of their oil from the USA, then this should give them pause before attacking Taiwan or any other U.S. allies. OUR SO CALLED ALLIES LIKE France, Germany and the UK claim to be our allies, but then THEY criticize our handling of this Iran conflict. How is this acting like our Ally?

Instead of standing publicly with us shoulder to shoulder, they are criticizing our handling of the dismantling of this evil regime? So , let’s pull 1/2 or more of our troops out of Germany, France and the UK who we have been there to protect them, and let’s go ahead and allow them to defend themselves More. We can negotiate a fairer deal for us to protect their disloyal and they can pay more for our protection moving forward. One that costs American far less money, and costs them a small fortune. This can help them to appreciate the U.S. keeping their weak countries safer.

Some of the left will say “this is all about the oil.” I say to that statement, it’s not “ALL TOTALLY ABOUT THE OIL” but the oil is a big factor here. because the less cheap oil China and or Russia and Iran’s IRGC has, the less of a global threat they are to us and our allies. So strategically weakening the oil power countries like Venezuela and Iran, the safer our country and our allies are. I think since Reagan was President, every single US president we have had both Red and Dem, have been pathetically weak in defending our country the past 30+ years until Trump.

So Like him or hate him, he is leading through strength, and not allowing other counties to bully us Now. I’m not a huge Trump supporter, but I am am a pro America supporter. And whatever POLICY DECISIONS weaken our adversaries long term, and strengthen us, I’m all for. And whatever far left woke policies weaken our country, WEAKEN our borders, and WEAKEN our military, I am 100% against.

It just so happens that the current Democratic Party is soooo far left, that ALL OF their CURRENT “policies appear to me to weaken America”. The mainstream media tried to convince us that the vaccines were not dangerous, but it turns out that they were. They tried to convince us that Biden was not old, senile and incompetent, but it turned out that he was and is. And now they are trying to convince us that we aren’t defeating Iran militarily, AND ONCE AGAIN, THEY ARE LYING TO US, BECAUSE WE ARE DESTROYING THE IRGC militarily. DESTROYING THEM Financially, AND DESTROYING THEM in every measurable way. They are TOTALLY AND COMPLETELY losing.

So what I say to our mainstream media is, SUPPORT OUR COUNTRY, SUPPORT OUR MILITARY, AND BE HONEST AND FAIR, OR, OPTION 2, LETS DEFUND AND DISMANTLE THE CURRENT MAINSTREAM MEDIA AND CREATE A MORE HONEST PRO AMERICA LEANING NEWS SOURCE And F Freedom of anti America news media having total FREEDOM OF SPEECH!! The dishonest anti America news media shouldn’t have the Freedom of “dishonest left leaning Speech!!” That’s Anti America rhetoric funded by anti American pro China power brokers who personally benefit by weakening our country!! NO MORE!!

I DONT know how any fair and honest person can trust anything our mainstream media reports. It’s so far left leaning. And then Fox and others compensate by being right leaning. Also not completely accurate and honest, but at least more so than The New York times, CNN, or The Atlantic, to name a few very very very very DISHONEST news outlets that should be deplatformed and defunded. Asap.

Let‘s All come together or Make America Great AGAIN!! If that means weakening our adversaries like Russia, Iran China and others, ok. But if they are smart they will make deals with us that are more favorable to our counties long term interests. YODA IS PRO AMERICA!! NOT. ANTI DEM, AND NOT PRO TRUMP!! YODA HERE IS PRO THE ALLIED FORCES FIGHTING AGAINST THE EVIL IRGC, CHINA, RUSSIAN EMPIRE WITH THE DEATH STAR REGIMES.

 

[BOOGIEMAN1914]

very good question. I don’t trust many. That’s for sure. Generally speaking, as long as the news source isn’t immediately anti Trump, totally negative against this administration, and seems semi neutral, that’s a great starting point. After that, I want my news to try and report both sides of things, to be fair, to not trash our own country and government right in the middle of us negotiating with this tyrannical IRGC regime. I believe if our media, the Dems, republicans, all sounds unified that we are winning this battle, now a ceasefire with Iran, and that our country sounds unified, it gives us a negotiating position of peace through strength. And when we seem divided, the IRGC hsrd liners think if they sit and hide in their caves long enough, we will implode from within.

I don’t want this thing to go on for another 3-6 months or longer, but if the enemy somehow believes that they can outlast us but hiding and waiting, if I were them, that would be the strategy I’d choose.

and From everything being reported, In Anywhere from a few days to a few weeks IRAN will run out of places to store Their oil, and they will have to make the tough choices of having to turn off their oil pumping, and once it’s shut off, it can take a year to turn back on, if ever? I doubt they will let that happen. So my guess is they will 1) try and make a deal before that happens, or, 2) attack us out of desperation, probably this second option. If they attack us, we can Go ahead and obliterate all of their remaining military targets they have left, take out whatever IRGC leaders are still left, and put them in an even worse financial position they bring upon themselves by attacking us first an breaking the ceasefire. Then, they will really be in a tough pickle. Agree to give us what we are asking for, or cap their wells, shut down their biggest source of revenue, and be fineinlally devastated for a year or years. Those are tough choices for them

if we have the New York Times, CNN, ABC, and other fake news outlets in our country falsely reporting in the meantime that Iran is doing well and might be winning this thing in any way militarily, it gives those cave dwelling maniacs who are chanting Death to America a glimmer of Hope, and we need them having NO HOPE whatsoever, because…

so which outlets are meeting your criteria right now?

 

[DuckDevil]

 

[DuckDevil]

This is by far the best campaign ad I’ve seen from a Democrat in a very long time. It would serve the party well to take note and copy Jon Ossoff’s messaging and style. He has proven to be one of the best speakers on the left. I think it’s safe to say that he will be involved in the 2028 conversation.