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storm1507

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Prayers BC. It's t'tough watching Dad going down hill. I may have fished with him our last time. I get the impression he doesn't want to go even if he can. He's 85, Mom is 82. My wife's parents have both passed away (her Dad 30 years ago).

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I enjoyed a hike today. 4.5 miles on the Pine Mountain Scenic Trail....leaves are still nice. I saw a decent buck and he was not even concerned with me. 30 yards away, watched me, and then bedded down right in the trail. I get no respect anymore. It seems that the game animals know I'm not a predator any more. Later, spooked a bear out of a tree....apparently eating wild grapes. He didn't hang around at all.

Go Gators! That is all.
 

berniecarbo

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Prayers BC. It's t'tough watching Dad going down hill. I may have fished with him our last time. I get the impression he doesn't want to go even if he can. He's 85, Mom is 82. My wife's parents have both passed away (her Dad 30 years ago).

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I enjoyed a hike today. 4.5 miles on the Pine Mountain Scenic Trail....leaves are still nice. I saw a decent buck and he was not even concerned with me. 30 yards away, watched me, and then bedded down right in the trail. I get no respect anymore. It seems that the game animals know I'm not a predator any more. Later, spooked a bear out of a tree....apparently eating wild grapes. He didn't hang around at all.

Go Gators! That is all.
I only met your dad once, but I liked him. He impressed me as a very good man. Best wishes for you and him.
 

warrior-cat

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Morning D-Legionnaires!

62° this morning with the high expected to be in the low 70's with light winds. It has rained off and on for the last 2 days but the rain has been light. Ground is already dry.

I have 2 co-ed softball games late this afternoon starting at 5:20pm. Not sure where we stand in the win losses as far as position, but we have only lost 1 game so far and we have played about 10. The one we have lost is the one where I injured a quad. Still not fully healed but feels good enough to run at a decent pace. Got asked Friday by a different team other than the 2 I normally play with to play in a tournament on the 5th of Dec for a Toys for Tots benefit. Here's to hoping the weather holds out.

Saw a projection in an ESPN article for the FBS that had UK in at 5. As much as I would love to see that, I believe that is a bit premature as our schedule is still pretty rough.

That is it folks, enjoy your Sunday and God Bless.
 

Pygmy Sasquatch

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We hunted around the plant out there years ago on a quota hunt. I didn't shoot anything but my friend did. A few months later KYDFW came to his house requesting samples of his deer. He had already eaten a lot of it by then. I've never been so happy to be skunked on a hunt.
 

berniecarbo

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We hunted around the plant out there years ago on a quota hunt. I didn't shoot anything but my friend did. A few months later KYDFW came to his house requesting samples of his deer. He had already eaten a lot of it by then. I've never been so happy to be skunked on a hunt.
I worked there long enough to draw a small pension. Two guys I worked alongside died of cancer. It is one of the reasons I quit and went to work for myself. At one point they ran water from Paducah to nearby areas so people would not have to use well water. They said do not eat game you killed or fish you caught in the area.

Those deer were smart. They knew they were safe the closer to the plant fence they got. During hunting season you might see a herd of 30 deer standing next to the fence.

One year, this guy went hunting using a big trash bag as rain gear. They found his body with numerous empty beer cans. A young man had mistaken him for a deer and shot him in the heart.
 

Pygmy Sasquatch

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I worked there long enough to draw a small pension. Two guys I worked alongside died of cancer. It is one of the reasons I quit and went to work for myself. At one point they ran water from Paducah to nearby areas so people would not have to use well water. They said do not eat game you killed or fish you caught in the area.

Those deer were smart. They knew they were safe the closer to the plant fence they got. During hunting season you might see a herd of 30 deer standing next to the fence.

One year, this guy went hunting using a big trash bag as rain gear. They found his body with numerous empty beer cans. A young man had mistaken him for a deer and shot him in the heart.
I sure wasn't crazy about going on that hunt but I let my buddies talk me into it. I knew a little about the plant because I worked on survey crews for the bypass. And I remember hearing about the guy wearing the garbage bag. Too bad they didn't have the orange trash bags back then.
 

berniecarbo

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I sure wasn't crazy about going on that hunt but I let my buddies talk me into it. I knew a little about the plant because I worked on survey crews for the bypass. And I remember hearing about the guy wearing the garbage bag. Too bad they didn't have the orange trash bags back then.
The access road to the plant was very busy at shift change and they were having trouble with people hitting deer. One side of the road was close enough to the river that drinking water was not a problem for deer. The other side had no easy water, so deer were crossing the road for water. They dug a large pond and the problem was solved.
 

MdWIldcat55

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Dec 9, 2007
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Good morning folks. Back from church, after a long hike. Woke up at 4am of course, with the time turned back, so it's been a long morning already.

A fairly calm Halloween. We had maybe ten trick or treaters. Our neighborhood was swamped with kids in the days twenty years ago when my kids were the age to enjoy it.

Welcome to November. Let's hope it is a good month for Cats teams playing with various shaped balls. That didn't come out exactly right, but you know what I mean.
 
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berniecarbo

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I played some fast pitch in the military. One of our teams had a pitcher who had actually beaten The King. In BP, I got to hit against our pitcher who had beaten the King. If he bore down on us, it was difficult to even get a hard foul. In baseball, I got to bat against a guy who played AAA ball and but for an I jury would have made MLB. Our softball pitcher was much harder to hit. I can't imagine hitting against the King.
 

MdWIldcat55

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Anyone recall this guy?

Bernie -- For sure. I think he'd show up once or twice a year on the old Wide World of Sports shows. Maybe not, but I definitely recall segments on him. My dad loved to watch his antics, but was quick to point out it was roughly on the same par as the Harlem Globe Trotters. Dad's position was the guy would be shellacked in the majors if he tried baseball. I suspect that was true.
 

berniecarbo

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Bernie -- For sure. I think he'd show up once or twice a year on the old Wide World of Sports shows. Maybe not, but I definitely recall segments on him. My dad loved to watch his antics, but was quick to point out it was roughly on the same par as the Harlem Globe Trotters. Dad's position was the guy would be shellacked in the majors if he tried baseball. I suspect that was true.
There is video from live TV at an All Star game exhibition where he struck out Mays, Clemente, Killibrew, McCovey and two more whose names I forget in a row. I'd give him a chance in MLB and he did have offers.
 

cordmaker 74

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I sure wasn't crazy about going on that hunt but I let my buddies talk me into it. I knew a little about the plant because I worked on survey crews for the bypass. And I remember hearing about the guy wearing the garbage bag. Too bad they didn't have the orange trash bags back then.
What year was you surveying?
 

BBUK

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Yeah, Bernie, but he's striking them out from 45 feet or whatever -- his fast pitch softball range. Those guys had no experience with that probably. IT's a whole different game. If he'd struck them out from 60 feet, six inches on a MLB mound, throwing a baseball, that would be convincing.

I batted against many high level pitchers. Dave Roberts of the Tigers who happened to be at my tryout. I think in 76. I hit him well back then. I batted against several of the old Detroit league (Can’t remember the exact name of the league.) fast pitch softball pitchers. I understood it to be a paid league. I had a good chance to compare back then. The thing that messed me up the most is the deception of the softball pitchers. Following the trajectory was more difficult.

Had a couple players mention to me that the natural movement of the human arm was under handed as compared to over handed. Made sense at the time but the pitching distance plus the path of the pitch always had me curious as to which was harder given picking only one. I liked hitting against overhanded pitchers better than the underhanded heat. I guess that decides it for me… Eerie to me and more deceptive on the underhanded path…

Ole Ralph Houk said it of me best… he said my last name … “For ten games you can play with anyone. After that you “ain’t” worth Schmidt.” I guess so as my tryout period was about twenty games…. 😆 (I can laugh now…).
 
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berniecarbo

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Yeah, Bernie, but he's striking them out from 45 feet or whatever -- his fast pitch softball range. Those guys had no experience with that probably. IT's a whole different game. If he'd struck them out from 60 feet, six inches on a MLB mound, throwing a baseball, that would be convincing.
I'm not pointing out to argue, just for some perspective. From a MLB mound, the extra height may have offset some of the 45 vs 60. I can't say for sure how it would have been.
 

berniecarbo

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I batted against many high level pitchers. Dave Roberts of the Tigers who happened to be at my tryout. I think in 76. I hit him well back then. I batted against several of the old Detroit league (Can’t remember the exact name of the league.) fast pitch softball pitchers. I understood it to be a paid league. I had a good chance to compare back then. The thing that messed me up the most is the deception of the softball pitchers. Following the trajectory was more difficult.

Had a couple players mention to me that the natural movement of the human arm was under handed as compared to over handed. Made sense at the time but the pitching distance plus the path of the pitch always had me curious as to which was harder given picking only one. I liked hitting against overhanded pitchers better than the underhanded heat. I guess that decides it for me…

Ole Ralph Houk said it of me best… he said my last name … “For ten games you can play with anyone. After that you “ain’t” worth Schmidt.” I guess so as my tryout period was about twenty games…. 😆 (I can laugh now…).
The guy on our team who was good enough to beat Eddie could make the ball break up and Down and in or out, plus change speeds and dominating speed and Eddie was better than him. The extra 15 feet would be a factor, but the extra height of the mound would to. We can't say what would have happened, but from having faced guys who played minor league ball, I agree. With you. I'd rather face the baseball guys.
 

MdWIldcat55

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I'm not pointing out to argue, just for some perspective. From a MLB mound, the extra height may have offset some of the 45 vs 60. I can't say for sure how it would have been.
Hey, Bernie, sorry if I seemed argumentative. Just giving my opinion in what I intended to be a friendly way. Feigner was great at what he did, but in my opinion being a major league baseball player is such a specialized, and rare, accomplishment that his skills at fast pitch underhand likely wouldn't have translated.

Think of all the guys who made it to Triple A but were just a couple MPH short on their fastball, and just a little imprecise on their control, and their change up didn't quite fool batters coming out of their hand...Anyway, it would have been fun to see him try, but he may well have been making more money than a journeyman big league pitcher in the 1960s.
 

berniecarbo

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Hey, Bernie, sorry if I seemed argumentative. Just giving my opinion in what I intended to be a friendly way. Feigner was great at what he did, but in my opinion being a major league baseball player is such a specialized, and rare, accomplishment that his skills at fast pitch underhand likely wouldn't have translated.

Think of all the guys who made it to Triple A but were just a couple MPH short on their fastball, and just a little imprecise on their control, and their change up didn't quite fool batters coming out of their hand...Anyway, it would have been fun to see him try, but he may well have been making more money than a journeyman big league pitcher in the 1960s.
Oh no, I just wanted you to know I wasn't being a butt about it. Yeah, guys in the 60's didn't make a lot of money. Eddie did turn down offers. Re the money: I read a story the other day. The first athlete to sign a million dollar contract was a bowler. I think it was 1961 when Don Carter signed a contract with Ebonite to allow them to use his name on a ball. Believe it or not, bowling was popular back then. At one point, 1 of every 17 adults in the USA bowled in a league. It is pretty much nothing today.
 

berniecarbo

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In 1961, bowling was booming. In the previous five years, the number of bowling centers had increased by 25%. AMF and Brunswick were the hot stocks on the New York exchange. All-star athletic banquets always featured at least one bowler. During the bowling season, most newspapers ran bowling news several times a week. Some of the larger dailies even had a bowling editor.

Two statistics sum up bowling’s prosperity. In 1961, Therman Gibson won $75,000 for rolling six straight strikes on the “Jackpot Bowling” TV show, making more money in 20 minutes than Mickey Mantle earned playing an entire season in the Yankee outfield. Also in 1961, out of an adult population of 110 million Americans, 6.5 million bowled in sanctioned leagues — one out of every 17 men and women.

From another article.
This scene played out in 12,000 bowling centers across America in the mid-1960s, when bowling was the nation's most popular participatory sport. More Americans bowled regularly than played golf, tennis, and basketball combined. It wasn't just recreation — it was democracy in action.

Where Everyone Was Equal Under the Lane Lights​

Bowling alleys were America's great equalizer. Unlike country clubs or private gyms, anyone could afford the $2.50 for three games and shoe rental. A factory worker could out-bowl the bank president, and often did. League standings were posted for everyone to see, creating a meritocracy based purely on skill and consistency.

The typical bowling alley in 1960 featured 20-40 lanes, a snack bar serving burgers and beer, and enough tables to seat 200 people. On league nights — which ran Monday through Thursday — the place buzzed with conversation, friendly trash talk, and the satisfying crash of pins

I worked in a bowling alley in early to mid sixties before going in the military.
 
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cordmaker 74

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I started in 1986 for a firm in Lexington. That project was in 90 if my memory is correct, the last one before I left there. After that I did heavy construction for a few years as party chief. I liked boundary surveys and recon route surveys best. Quiet and chill.
Was just wondering if you were there when I was working on I-24 in Paducah, I was there in 1970, just a few years ago!!!😂😂😂😂
 
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