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johnson86-1

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ETA: Updated Chart to make it easier to see changes in shaded area.



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Or at least would be the most informative if we knew how comprehensive the data is. We still aren't testing a ton, but we have been ramping up tests without (yet) showing a big increase. We'll see if that's because we are flattening the curve or if it's caused by something like not testing a lot of obviously symptomatic people or because we have a lot of tests outstanding that we haven't gotten the results from that are going to push those numbers in the shaded area up considerably.








April 1: Looks like they added at least one case as far back as March 8th and another on the 11th, but there aren't significant additions until March 19th and 20th. Still seems to be encouraging. Not huge spikes and the additions, while significant, aren't massive. They seem to be consistently too, so the trend may be good even if the data overall is understated.



April 2: Looks like maybe they don't add a case before March 16th, and no significant adds until March 20th, and then pretty small additions with the exception of March 23rd. Still looking flat, so still encouraging.





April 3: Looks like maybe they don't add a case or to on March 15th, and a few on the 16th through the 22nd, and then a good sized jump on the 23rd and each day thereafter. Looks likely that the 23rd is going to exceed the 20th as a new peak in the next few days. And had a big jump today in confirmed cases, so the idea that the curve had already hit a plateau seems like it was maybe overly optimistic unless that jump was just do to an increased capacity to process tests showing up in the data, which is certainly possible.









April 7: Doesn't look like they've added anything significant prior to March 23rd although there are some prior additions.



THrough April 8th: Added cases back to at least March 16th, with pretty decent sized numbers added each day fro March 18th onward.

Looking at how the data is changing by day, you could see the 23rd catching up to the 20th as the peak as far back as April 1st, so it looks like the 27th will have a good chance of surpassing the peak of the 23rd, and we don't know that dates after that won't catch and/or pass the 27th.



Through April 10th: Still adding cases back to at least March 20th, with pretty big numbers added starting March 23rd onward.




Through April 11th: Still adding back to at least March 20th. Not many cases added to March 23rd over two days. Looks likely that March 27th, 30th, and/or 31st will pass the 23rd as the peak. Looking back to the April 1st graph, March 23rd had between 40 and 50 cases, and we've added close to another 100 to that date in the almost two weeks since. We are going back at least three weeks to add cases pretty consistently.




Through April 12th: Very little updating outside of the shaded area. I am guessing this has more to do with number of tests processed and impacts from Easter weekend rather than it being evidence that our test processing has caught up to tests administered.



Through April 13th: Looks like still adding back to at least March 23rd, and that March 27th will surpass the 23rd as a peak, and that the number of cases added picks up a good bit at April 1st. So basically a pretty solid two week lag with small numbers added up to three weeks back.



Through April 15th: Looks like they are still adding some cases back to March 23rd, but that the cases added really picks up around March 30th. HOpefully this is a sign that the backlog of test results is being eliminated and we really are seeing a flat curve. Still not sure how many symptomatic people are just told not to get tested. I've talked to people that work drive through testing sites where they say they get limited traffic, but also hear of people being told not to get tested but to just self isolate.



Through April 20th: Missed enough days that there's not much you can tell from updating, but pretty clear there are several days in the shaded area that will compete for a new peak.

Through April 23rd: Looks like pretty flat curve going back to March 23 but still probably haven't hit a peak, even temporarily, unless we are just getting test results back so much faster that there won't be nearly as many cases added in the shaded area.



Through April 29th: Not much to tell since I have not been updating consistently as I've been watching the hospitalization, ICU, and ventilator graph, but looks like we are slowly but steadily moving up. Based on the hospitalizations, it looks like we might be basically at our peak regardless of how many new positive cases we are getting, or it could be that a lot of these positive cases will translate into elevated hospitalizations over the next week or so.
 
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As widepread as this is, looking at the map of counties, it blows my mind there are counties that are not "reporting cases". I know there are more than the 2 cases in my county, but it's almost like we are intentionally under-reporting cases so we can say we are "flattening the curve" when in actuality, I don't think we are. Just my 2 cents.
 

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The curve isn't anywhere close to being flattened

It's still in the early stages of the upswing.
 

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It's still in the early stages of the upswing.

Not true unless measures aren't working. MS just started testing people with fever. Previously only those with a certain temp level were tested due to lack of testing available. Tons of folks were missed.
 

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It's still in the early stages of the upswing.

Even if we are in the early stages of the upswing, that doesn't mean the curve isn't being flattened. Second derivative and ****.

But it really just depends on what is going on in the shaded area. Does the shaded area include a ton of tests of likely positive patients that haven't gotten results back? Or are tests not that far behind and it's just shaded because a lot of people are generally dealing with symptoms on their own for three to four days before getting tested.

I don't think we have already actually hit a peak as far as new cases per day, but I am hopeful that we already are showing a flattened curve, even though there's probably not enough data to support that yet. If we somehow have actually already hit a peak, I think it will be short term as I already see people getting lax on the social distancing, and if we get good news, I think we will see people promptly loosen up too much.
 

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Even if we are in the early stages of the upswing, that doesn't mean the curve isn't being flattened. Second derivative and ****.

But it really just depends on what is going on in the shaded area. Does the shaded area include a ton of tests of likely positive patients that haven't gotten results back? Or are tests not that far behind and it's just shaded because a lot of people are generally dealing with symptoms on their own for three to four days before getting tested.

I don't think we have already actually hit a peak as far as new cases per day, but I am hopeful that we already are showing a flattened curve, even though there's probably not enough data to support that yet. If we somehow have actually already hit a peak, I think it will be short term as I already see people getting lax on the social distancing, and if we get good news, I think we will see people promptly loosen up too much.

Good post. But I haven’t seen ANY social distancing in Neshoba county at all. People are going about their business as usual. Crazy!
 
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Interesting pattern a series of downswings and then a spike. Downswing is slightly longer on the last one. Be interesting to see where it goes from here but it will go up just because of more testing.
 

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Good post. But I haven’t seen ANY social distancing in Neshoba county at all. People are going about their business as usual. Crazy!

✋🏻 Neshoba social distancer here . You haven't seen me unless you ride the country roads and I'm on the lawnmower or walking dogs in the pastures and woods.
 

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Not sure what they are doing there, but due to lack of tests (and the ancillary things needed to test) including PPE; in my county they are only testing people with the Big3 symptoms, fever over x, cough, shortness of breath.

You have to have all 3 to get tested.

It makes sense. If you are really short of PPE, you don’t want to waste it (and tests) on people that are not REALLY sick. If you aren’t REALLY sick, you’re probably going to be fine.

I know testing everyone would be ideal, and would help limit spread and give us a better game plan, but we aren’t in a position to do that.
We would love to know everyone’s status, but right now that’s not the best course of action.
 
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To piggy back witch some general testing data, I used the wayback machine to look at the MSDH COVID page. It first showed up on March 6th. Testing numbers showed up on March 10th. Unfortunately private labs are not represented here. MSDH Public Health Laboratory only.

14 as of March 7th
32 as of March 11th
42 as of March 12th
90 as of March 13th
March 14 no update
March 15 no update
289 as of March 16th
389 as of March 17th
513 as of March 18th
602 as of March 19th
775 as of March 20th
March 21 no update
March 22 no update
1392 as of March 22nd
1874 as of March 23rd
1943 as of March 24th
2776 as of March 25th
3139 as of March 26th
 

johnson86-1

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Updated Chart:




So pretty clearly there is much more uncertainty than just in the shaded regions, as they have added cases to dates that were not shaded in the last chart I posted. Still shows I guess moderately encouraging data, but not much you can take from it if they are still adding cases to the unshaded regions.
 
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As widepread as this is, looking at the map of counties, it blows my mind there are counties that are not "reporting cases". I know there are more than the 2 cases in my county, but it's almost like we are intentionally under-reporting cases so we can say we are "flattening the curve" when in actuality, I don't think we are. Just my 2 cents.

Come visit beautiful Isaquena county. COVID free because nobody lives here.
 

johnson86-1

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They are still adding cases at least as far back as March 16th, so not sure if this information is useful at all, but going to keep putting the updated charts in the original post to see if any trend can be identified.

 

johnson86-1

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Added Chart for 4/1 (here and at bottom of original post to start thread ):




Looks like they added at least one case as far back as March 8th and another on the 11th, but there aren't significant additions until March 19th and 20th. Still seems to be encouraging. Not huge spikes and the additions, while significant, aren't massive. They seem to be consistently too, so the trend may be good even if the data overall is understated.
 
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Added Chart for 4/1 (here and at bottom of original post to start thread ):


I think you were on to something, but the data is unreliable. There are variable lags in feeling, testing, reporting, and recording symptoms and cases.

1 thing I have noticed is cases look low on the weekends, but spike up on Monday and Tuesday. I am guessing that at least some of the folks recording and reporting are not working on Saturday and Sunday. Not the front lines, just data entry types.
 

johnson86-1

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I think you were on to something, but the data is unreliable. There are variable lags in feeling, testing, reporting, and recording symptoms and cases.

1 thing I have noticed is cases look low on the weekends, but spike up on Monday and Tuesday. I am guessing that at least some of the folks recording and reporting are not working on Saturday and Sunday. Not the front lines, just data entry types.

- Variable lags in feeling is going to be present until we start testing people randomly.

- The lags in testing are irrelevant except for as far back as that lag goes. Right now, it looks like we are makign pretty significant additions a week back, and then before that it's very limited data being backfille.d THe one caveat with that is that we have had pretty consistently I think 15% or less of tests coming back positive, so if we see a spike in the percentage coming back positive, that data being added back to more than a week prior could start having a much bigger impact on number of positive cases.

- the lag on reporting/recording is the same as testing. Irrelevant except for as far back as that lag goes. There's no way for us to distinguish between a lag in testing and a lag in reporting/recording based on the graphs, so unless there are just locations sitting on old data for some reason, that doesn't seem to be a major problem once you get to a week back (again, with the same caveat regarding percentage of positive cases).

I think it's just a question of whether our testing is significant enough to accurately pick up and identify a trend. I would say not likely, except for the fact that we are getting so many negative test results, it makes me think maybe we ar getting enough of the cases to reflect the trend, even if we don't have the magnitude right.
 

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Updated through April 2 (also put in the original post):






April 3: Looks like maybe they don't add a case or to on March 15th, and a few on the 16th through the 22nd, and then a good sized jump on the 23rd and each day thereafter. Looks likely that the 23rd is going to exceed the 20th as a new peak in the next few days. And had a big jump today in confirmed cases, so the idea that the curve had already hit a plateau seems like it was maybe overly optimistic unless that jump was just do to an increased capacity to process tests showing up in the data, which is certainly possible.

 

johnson86-1

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THrough April 7th (added in original post also:



Doesn't look like there are signifiant additions prior to March 23rd. Based on how cases have been added in the past, it seems unlikely March 24th through 27th will end up being higher than the number of cases starting on the 23rd. Looks like we've maybe hit a peak of confirmed positive tests for now. But I know that at least in some places, when there is somebody symptomatic that has been in contact with a confirmed case, they just send them home to self isolate without testing. SO I don't know if any of this data is useful with that kind of limitation.
 

johnson86-1

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THrough April 8th:

Added cases back to at least March 16th, with pretty decent sized numbers added each day fro March 18th onward.

Looking at how the data is changing by day, you could see the 23rd catching up to the 20th as the peak as far back as April 1st, so it looks like the 27th will have a good chance of surpassing the peak of the 23rd, and we don't know that dates after that won't catch and/or pass the 27th.
 

johnson86-1

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Through April 10: Still adding cases back to at least March 20th, with pretty big numbers added starting March 23rd onward.

 

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It sure is nice to be able to look at it like this even though I follow every day and have a general idea on what's happening. They need to eliminate the grey area altogether and note that they are constantly counting back to previous days as more testing happens.

IMO we see two spikes where we have the greatest spread in Mississippi -- in the run on supplies freakouts that happened both at the initial shutdown and again at the "shelter in place" order. IMO that's already what we see from the 23rd-27th. Which would have been people getting infected on the 16th-22nd. Trump first limited gatherings(10 people) and travel on March 16th followed directly by school closings.
 

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Through April 12th: Very little updating outside of the shaded area. I am guessing this has more to do with number of tests processed and impacts from Easter weekend rather than it being evidence that our test processing has caught up to tests administered.
 

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Through April 13th: Looks like still adding back to at least March 23rd, and that March 27th will surpass the 23rd as a peak, and that the number of cases added picks up a good bit at April 1st. So basically a pretty solid two week lag with small numbers added up to three weeks back.
 

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Small deal, but do you mind attaching as a picture instead? That way it can be clicked into and enlarged.
 

johnson86-1

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THrough April 14th: Looks like we are either processing cases much more quickly or we are about to see that what looked like a plateau was not one.
 

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I think the backlog of tests is catching up. Based on convo with hospital CEO yesterday they only have a few test results they are waiting on for the last 5 days. Said most results are coming back now in 2 days or less. The numbers should be a lot more accurate in the next few days. Plus, several big hospitals are doing their own testing now. Not sure how quickly those results will come in or how they are being reported.
 

johnson86-1

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Through April 15th: Looks like they are still adding some cases back to March 23rd, but that the cases added really picks up around March 30th. HOpefully this is a sign that the backlog of test results is being eliminated and we really are seeing a flat curve. Still not sure how many symptomatic people are just told not to get tested. I've talked to people that work drive through testing sites where they say they get limited traffic, but also hear of people being told not to get tested but to just self isolate.

 

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Testing is now a one day turnaround or a few hours if in house testing. Hopefully this will eliminate back log going forward and maybe daily new cases will start to be a more reliable indicator of where we are.
 

johnson86-1

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Through April 20th: Missed enough days that there's not much you can tell from updating, but pretty clear there are several days in the shaded area that will compete for a new peak.
 

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Testing is now a one day turnaround or a few hours if in house testing. Hopefully this will eliminate back log going forward and maybe daily new cases will start to be a more reliable indicator of where we are.

It's a 3 day turnaround in most best case situations. There's still a test shortage too.
 

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Through April 20th: Missed enough days that there's not much you can tell from updating, but pretty clear there are several days in the shaded area that will compete for a new peak.
This graph will be quite useful, after it is all over. it is useless to try to use it for short term anything. The numbers are revised too much, sometimes many days afterward.
 

johnson86-1

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This graph will be quite useful, after it is all over. it is useless to try to use it for short term anything. The numbers are revised too much, sometimes many days afterward.

The latency has been shrinking I think. Still adding numbers up to almost four weeks back, but it doesn't look like they are adding as many, which I assume is because they are processing tests more quickly. Still going to have significant additions for two weeks back because people won't necessarily go get tested right when they have symptoms and I guess b/c there is still some lag.

Unfortunately I think we are going to be managing this by looking backwards, basically using the rear view mirror to stay between the lines while driving. Not ideal but the best we have for right now. Not sure if we can feasibly get testing and processing ramped up quickly enough to do anything different for a while.
 

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It's a 3 day turnaround in most best case situations. There's still a test shortage too.

Wife’s Hospital started same day testing yesterday. They have plenty of test, but you have to have Doctor orders to get the test (showing symptoms)
 
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