The Biden effect

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Funny coming from the party of death. Leftist live in a death cult...
 
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dpic73

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Covid jab will have killed more than covid before all is said and done...


This is why your side must be soundly defeated and made irrelevant. Trump's loss turned you into a bunch of anti-public health zealots who will invent hysterically ridiculous claims about vaccine safety, simply to own the libs and cover for your ignorant decisions. We can never again let the maga wing regain power if we expect to return to normal as a country.
 
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TigerRagRob

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Your fvkking president said today and I quote " A whole civilization will die tonight, never to be brought back again. I don't want that to happen, but it probably will." And you're not mad at him but you are about my tweets. Nothing else needs to be said.
And you leftist are too dumb to understand what he was talking about. Or maybe you just pretend to not know so you can attack him. Because no matter what Trump does you will oppose it. -+---
This is why your side must be soundly defeated and made irrelevant. Trump's loss turned you into a bunch of anti-public health zealots who will invent hysterically ridiculous claims about vaccine safety, simply to own the libs and cover for your ignorant decisions. We can never again let the maga wing regain power if we expect to return to normal as a country.
This is why we say you are in a cult. Ive had 2 members of the family that died right after they got the jab. The doctors blamed the jab. You laughed mocked my family afterwards. You defend the jab like you are heavily invested in it. You deny and evidence that comes out against it. You fell for everything they told you. Everyday more and more evidence comes out against the jab and you plug your ears and mock the evidence. You are in a cult. The MAGA wing is moderate. The far-left and far-right have united against MAGA. Many libs are in MAGA. So its MAGA vs the two extremes...
 

dpic73

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And you leftist are too dumb to understand what he was talking about. Or maybe you just pretend to not know so you can attack him. Because no matter what Trump does you will oppose it. -+---

This is why we say you are in a cult. Ive had 2 members of the family that died right after they got the jab. The doctors blamed the jab. You laughed mocked my family afterwards. You defend the jab like you are heavily invested in it. You deny and evidence that comes out against it. You fell for everything they told you. Everyday more and more evidence comes out against the jab and you plug your ears and mock the evidence. You are in a cult. The MAGA wing is moderate. The far-left and far-right have united against MAGA. Many libs are in MAGA. So its MAGA vs the two extremes...
 
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”I think all of us want the best for the country, we just differ on the right way to achieve that.”
Umm, yea…. No
So, you really think all dems want the best for this country, even if it makes Trump look good?? Cmon Ned,,, read the room
forget trump for a second. There's no question that there is a segment of this board, and society as a whole that hates trump, hates him. Nothing he does is right, he's a fascist, Nazi, racist, pedophile, and no matter what evidence might be presented, it's discounted, nothing is going to negate or even moderate their feelings.

Now if we go back in history, It's my opinion that this 100% adversarial position between parties started with the Bush/gore election in 2000 and the debate over ballots, mainly in Florida. Democrats were outraged at the supreme court decision and our politics have been downhill since.

There were certainly some Republican dumb, resentful positions taken about Obama. But, the moment trump came down that escalator, democrats have been over the top in their resentment and hate of the man. Now, for sure he has brought a lot of this on himself, but in all of my years I've never seen anything like it. And, I'm convinced that the opinion of trump with the resultant hate has not only been a negative for the political environment, but also for the country, and it will not dissipate until trump himself is in the rear window.

Now having said that, back to your post....I sincerely believe that everyone on the board wants what's best for the country. But their feelings about trump just overcomes anything else, I've posted before, some of those on here, are against what ever trump proposes even before he comes up with an idea to propose something. And, the folks on here are not alone. We're in sort of a George Costanza situation...for trump to get something approved, he needs to take the opposite positions for anything he wants to get done.

Everyone has an opinion. It's why we have two parties ...some believe one thing and others believe the opposite. Heck, my wife and I disagree with each other at times. But we both love our marriage and we work things out. Right now, IMO, the abject dislike for trump the man overcomes the desire for people on opposite sides to work things out. I used to think Obama was the worst president for uniting the country. Trump has Obama beat by a mile.
 
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dpic73

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hearing = swore testimony....
No one in the mainstream medical community respects him at all as he's considered an anti-science quack and even a nihilist. The medical community at large has poked holes in all of his stances, especially regarding vaccine skepticism. Just note the surge in measles cases alone since he was nominated to see how his views have opened the floodgates to diseases we once had under control and that should be all the evidence you need that he's a danger to this country and not someone who should ever be listened to.

And Nicholas Hulsher is a quack-a-doodle who works for quack-a-doodle fake doctor Peter McCullough who runs a wellness company that sells anti-spike protein supplements for covid vaccines (a made up problem). This is why he scaremongers about the vaccine so that you'll buy their fake supplements.

So I reiterate that if these are the people you trust and promote, we need to make sure your side is soundly defeated and made irrelevant before you get us all killed.
 
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dpic73

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I disagree. Bush had high approval in his first term with a peak of 90% approval after 9/11 and he wouldn't have had those numbers without democrat support.

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There were certainly some Republican dumb, resentful positions taken about Obama. But, the moment trump came down that escalator, democrats have been over the top in their resentment and hate of the man. Now, for sure he has brought a lot of this on himself, but in all of my years I've never seen anything like it. And, I'm convinced that the opinion of trump with the resultant hate has not only been a negative for the political environment, but also for the country, and it will not dissipate until trump himself is in the rear window.
And why is that Ned? Did you ever consider it was because he was a pathological liar, a guy who promoted birtherism, a guy who led crowds in chants of "Lock Her Up!" and said things at his rallies like "Knock the crap out of him!?" Did it ever cross your mind that he proved he was unfit for office and that's why we hated him? Ironically, and this is where the two sides divide, the Right loved him for those very same reasons and that's why we'll never understand each other. We saw that he was a menace from the beginning and you saw someone who would torture your enemies and you loved it.
Now having said that, back to your post....I sincerely believe that everyone on the board wants what's best for the country. But their feelings about trump just overcomes anything else, I've posted before, some of those on here, are against what ever trump proposes even before he comes up with an idea to propose something. And, the folks on here are not alone. We're in sort of a George Costanza situation...for trump to get something approved, he needs to take the opposite positions for anything he wants to get done.
Again, he was unfit from the beginning and he overwhelmingly proved it by the end of his first term, so we see someone who should be in jail right now, destabilizing our country and shaming us on the world stage. That's why it doesn't matter if he does some things that are good, he shouldn't be in a position to do anything at all and now he's getting worse and proving us right all over again, just like we knew he would. He's a criminal and clearly insane so we are bewildered that you don't see our side and you obviously see us the same way. We do not see someone who wants what's best for our country, only what's good for him, while you give him the benefit of the doubt.
Everyone has an opinion. It's why we have two parties ...some believe one thing and others believe the opposite. Heck, my wife and I disagree with each other at times. But we both love our marriage and we work things out. Right now, IMO, the abject dislike for trump the man overcomes the desire for people on opposite sides to work things out. I used to think Obama was the worst president for uniting the country. Trump has Obama beat by a mile.
Your last sentence says it all.
 
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I disagree. Bush had high approval in his first term with a peak of 90% approval after 9/11 and he wouldn't have had those numbers without democrat support.

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And why is that Ned? Did you ever consider it was because he was a pathological liar, a guy who promoted birtherism, a guy who led crowds in chants of "Lock Her Up!" and said things at his rallies like "Knock the crap out of him!?" Did it ever cross your mind that he proved he was unfit for office and that's why we hated him? Ironically, and this is where the two sides divide, the Right loved him for those very same reasons and that's why we'll never understand each other. We saw that he was a menace from the beginning and you saw someone who would torture your enemies and you loved it.

Again, he was unfit from the beginning and he overwhelmingly proved it by the end of his first term, so we see someone who should be in jail right now, destabilizing our country and shaming us on the world stage. That's why it doesn't matter if he does some things that are good, he shouldn't be in a position to do anything at all and now he's getting worse and proving us right all over again, just like we knew he would. He's a criminal and clearly insane so we are bewildered that you don't see our side and you obviously see us the same way. We do not see someone who wants what's best for our country, only what's good for him, while you give him the benefit of the doubt.

Your last sentence says it all.
Here's what you apparently forget...Hillary was a terrible candidate as demonstrated by the vote count.. Obama divided the country...and he was a Democrat just like Hillary. Trump offered the country something different..

And not the least he won the vote for president.....And definitely not the least, he won again in 2024. So that has to tell us something....
either the majority of Americans feel the same way as trump...and that says one thing. Or the democrats keep putting up candidates the the American people don't want..and that should tell us something else.

I'm not sure I agree at all when you say the right loved him...some on the right do, for sure. But a lot on the right, and apparently a lot of independents (remember they're the ones that make the deciding votes ..a point you forget) voted for trump because they just couldn't vote for Kamala. Remember, in 2020 when she was a candidate, she was first one out, in no small part because even Democrat voters didn't like her. Yet party leaders decided she was the one that should carry the mantle.

You have your reasons for disliking trump, I get it. But you ignore that there were more people who apparently liked him (according to the votes, twice). Why are you so vehement in your opinions but totally negate the opinions of others?

Aren't we all in this together? I give everyone the benefit of the doubt until they show they don't deserve it. But, I'll repeat what I have posted many times..I don't think everyone is right all the time, and I'm certain nobody is wrong all the time either.

I'm pretty sure none of us are in a position to declare him insane. You apparently think so, I know I am not qualified to make that definitive a statement.
 

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non secretor and unrelated. We know you are very pro-Iranian regime and anti-American. You will always side with the enemies if they hate your brothers and sisters that dont think like you...
Holy shiat. That's "non sequitur," not "non secretor." Please refrain from trying to use your "big words" unless you have confirmed what they mean and how to spell them.
 
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dpic73

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Here's what you apparently forget...Hillary was a terrible candidate as demonstrated by the vote count.. Obama divided the country...and he was a Democrat just like Hillary. Trump offered the country something different..

And not the least he won the vote for president.....And definitely not the least, he won again in 2024. So that has to tell us something....
either the majority of Americans feel the same way as trump...and that says one thing. Or the democrats keep putting up candidates the the American people don't want..and that should tell us something else.

I'm not sure I agree at all when you say the right loved him...some on the right do, for sure. But a lot on the right, and apparently a lot of independents (remember they're the ones that make the deciding votes ..a point you forget) voted for trump because they just couldn't vote for Kamala. Remember, in 2020 when she was a candidate, she was first one out, in no small part because even Democrat voters didn't like her. Yet party leaders decided she was the one that should carry the mantle.

You have your reasons for disliking trump, I get it. But you ignore that there were more people who apparently liked him (according to the votes, twice). Why are you so vehement in your opinions but totally negate the opinions of others?

Aren't we all in this together? I give everyone the benefit of the doubt until they show they don't deserve it. But, I'll repeat what I have posted many times..I don't think everyone is right all the time, and I'm certain nobody is wrong all the time either.

I'm pretty sure none of us are in a position to declare him insane. You apparently think so, I know I am not qualified to make that definitive a statement.
Hillary may not have been the most likeable candidate but she was infintely more qualified than Trump and the vote count did not say she was a terrible candidate as she actually received 3 million more votes than Donald did, but thanks to the electoral college, he won.

I'm just telling you why we rightly hated him from the beginning and hate him worse now since he was still re-elected after trying to overturn the will of the people. Our side knew that if this criminal were re-elected it would be a dark stain on our country that would lead to mayhem and chaos and we've been proven right. In other words, we don't hate him just to hate him, we have very valid reasons for doing so.

He's insane, period.
 
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forget trump for a second. There's no question that there is a segment of this board, and society as a whole that hates trump, hates him. Nothing he does is right, he's a fascist, Nazi, racist, pedophile, and no matter what evidence might be presented, it's discounted, nothing is going to negate or even moderate their feelings.

Now if we go back in history, It's my opinion that this 100% adversarial position between parties started with the Bush/gore election in 2000 and the debate over ballots, mainly in Florida. Democrats were outraged at the supreme court decision and our politics have been downhill since.

There were certainly some Republican dumb, resentful positions taken about Obama. But, the moment trump came down that escalator, democrats have been over the top in their resentment and hate of the man. Now, for sure he has brought a lot of this on himself, but in all of my years I've never seen anything like it. And, I'm convinced that the opinion of trump with the resultant hate has not only been a negative for the political environment, but also for the country, and it will not dissipate until trump himself is in the rear window.

Now having said that, back to your post....I sincerely believe that everyone on the board wants what's best for the country. But their feelings about trump just overcomes anything else, I've posted before, some of those on here, are against what ever trump proposes even before he comes up with an idea to propose something. And, the folks on here are not alone. We're in sort of a George Costanza situation...for trump to get something approved, he needs to take the opposite positions for anything he wants to get done.

Everyone has an opinion. It's why we have two parties ...some believe one thing and others believe the opposite. Heck, my wife and I disagree with each other at times. But we both love our marriage and we work things out. Right now, IMO, the abject dislike for trump the man overcomes the desire for people on opposite sides to work things out. I used to think Obama was the worst president for uniting the country. Trump has Obama beat by a mile.
Actually, no. The adversarial position between parties started in the 1800 election between Jefferson and Adams. It was absolutely brutal. Adams was accused of wanting to start a monarchy. Sound familiar? Both hired newspapers to spread hateful rhetoric against each other. Adams swallowed his pride to have Jefferson write the Declaration of Independence. Adams wasn't particularly well like because of his aggressive nature, and representing British troops, but knew, even though he was a far more accomplished lawyer, a representative from Virginia was strategically genius.

I've always been a Jeffersonian, state's rights, vs federal government, but also did not ever like Jefferson's elitism and slave owning. Furthermore, that he didn't serve, and fled Monticello on horseback. He was 37 at the time. During the election, everything from lies in newspapers to real election interference took place.

At the end, they remained close, wrote to each other often, and both, somehow, someway, died on July 4th, our birthday. Also, the 50th anniversary of the Declaration of Independence. Now, write that movie...You cannot make this sh&t up.

The Election of 1800: Adams vs Jefferson | American Battlefield Trust https://www.battlefields.org/learn/articles/election-1800-adams-vs-jefferson
 

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Here's what you apparently forget...Hillary was a terrible candidate as demonstrated by the vote count.. Obama divided the country...and he was a Democrat just like Hillary. Trump offered the country something different..

And not the least he won the vote for president.....And definitely not the least, he won again in 2024. So that has to tell us something....
either the majority of Americans feel the same way as trump...and that says one thing. Or the democrats keep putting up candidates the the American people don't want..and that should tell us something else.

I'm not sure I agree at all when you say the right loved him...some on the right do, for sure. But a lot on the right, and apparently a lot of independents (remember they're the ones that make the deciding votes ..a point you forget) voted for trump because they just couldn't vote for Kamala. Remember, in 2020 when she was a candidate, she was first one out, in no small part because even Democrat voters didn't like her. Yet party leaders decided she was the one that should carry the mantle.

You have your reasons for disliking trump, I get it. But you ignore that there were more people who apparently liked him (according to the votes, twice). Why are you so vehement in your opinions but totally negate the opinions of others?

Aren't we all in this together? I give everyone the benefit of the doubt until they show they don't deserve it. But, I'll repeat what I have posted many times..I don't think everyone is right all the time, and I'm certain nobody is wrong all the time either.

I'm pretty sure none of us are in a position to declare him insane. You apparently think so, I know I am not qualified to make that definitive a statement.
I'll also add, the problem with today's liberals is not that they're extremists, they don't believe in liberalism, nor do they know what it means. They attack America constantly. From racism, to more and more federal government. That is the antithesis of America. They're also, ungodly ignorant in our history, hold America to unreal standards, and NEVER call out any other country. Like never. Meanwhile, no country in the history of the world continues to allow more proper immigrants. Their entire platform is based on lies and revisionism. They still believe Roots was real, 1619 is accurate, and every Founder was a rich White man who did absolutely nothing, and paid no price for the freedom they have today.
 

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I'll also add, the problem with today's liberals is not that they're extremists, they don't believe in liberalism, nor do they know what it means. They attack America constantly. From racism, to more and more federal government. That is the antithesis of America. They're also, ungodly ignorant in our history, hold America to unreal standards, and NEVER call out any other country. Like never. Meanwhile, no country in the history of the world continues to allow more proper immigrants. Their entire platform is based on lies and revisionism. They still believe Roots was real, 1619 is accurate, and every Founder was a rich White man who did absolutely nothing, and paid no price for the freedom they have today.
Yes. He literally hasn't changed his shtick in many years. He inserts himself into things already in a raging lather. He'll call you pathetic or ignorant. He'll reference some historical factoid ... the great majority of the time it'll be completely irrelevant, but he thinks it proves whatever point he's trying to make. He almost never puts together a valid and sound argument, but is convinced he nailed it. Almost always, he attributes some straw man to you, and argues against that. He can never admit he messed up, which happens very often.
 
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Using RFK to make your case isn’t helping your nonsense post. As for your prediction you are 100% wrong and know nothing about mRNA. Do yourself a favor and stop getting your medical information from wackjobs on Twitter
Again do you watch the hearings that happen under oath??
 
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English, please.
You can tell you have no argument when all you got is being a grammar Nazi and not focus on the topic at hand. Also for some reason spell check auto corrected and I didnt catch it, but who cares you know what I was saying and you couldnt address that. You are a racist pos that thinks that you are better than people of color...
 
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You can tell you have no argument when all you got is being a grammar Nazi and not focus on the topic at hand. Also for some reason spell check auto corrected and I didnt catch it, but who cares you know what I was saying and you couldnt address that. You are a racist pos that thinks that you are better than people of color...
It’s always the fat ones
 
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I’m a board certified toxicologist and been in drug development industry for over 35 years. RFK doesn’t have a clue and is another member of an incompetent administration. Again don’t get your medical information from what you see on tv and internet.
So you didnt watch the hearing and dont know what was said under oath by the experts your tards followed???
 

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I'm not sure that's fair. IMO, there are sufficient, honest questions about whether or not bombing Iran was the right move and will yield the results we wanted. I think it's fair to ask whether or not we should have continued negotiations and kept bombing as a last resort.
Opinions vary, and everyone is entitled to analyze what they see and make their own decision. No matter their decision it doesn't make them anti or pro American. I think all of us want the best for the country, we just differ on the right way to achieve that.
What was the thread about?
 

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Cool Benny. let's do it. But just know that it will include Trump officials too.

"This is not the number of murders committed in a single year, nor does it represent killings specifically tied to recent border crossings under one administration. Instead, it is a cumulative total of known homicide convictions spanning decades—often described as covering 40 years or more of data.

Why decades?
  • Many individuals in this count entered the U.S. long before the Biden era (some under previous administrations, including Trump’s and earlier ones).
    • Convictions include crimes committed abroad (e.g., in home countries) or in the U.S. years ago.
    • Some people may have been in state or local prisons serving sentences at the time of the data, not “roaming free” on the streets.
  • In short, the 13,000 number does not cover just the Biden years (or any 4-year window). It aggregates a long historical record. Claims that tie it directly to “13,000 Americans dead” under one set of policies overstate the recency and causality, as the data mixes old cases, foreign convictions, and people already in the system for years.
  • The specific hammer-murder case Benny Johnson highlighted is a tragic recent incident involving an individual who entered illegally, but the broader 13k statistic is a backlog figure, not an annual body count from recent policy.
 

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I’m a board certified toxicologist and been in drug development industry for over 35 years. RFK doesn’t have a clue and is another member of an incompetent administration. Again don’t get your medical information from what you see on tv and internet.
the pharma industry - you're in drug development - doesn't have such a great reputation right now.

Not intimating that you're wrong about RFK
 

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the pharma industry - you're in drug development - doesn't have such a great reputation right now.

Not intimating that you're wrong about RFK
I’m not going to get into a pissing contest here but most everyone is here because of advances in medicine over the years. People can hate the industry but I’m proud of what I have done.
 
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I’m not going to get into a pissing contest here but most everyone is here because of advances in medicine over the years. People can hate the industry but I’m proud of what I have done.
you should be proud of what you've done. Only saying that while bashing RFK is a norm for the left, and I don't know enough about it to speak intelligently. But, neither do most of the people who bash him.

I just thought it was worthwhile to remind readers that it wasn't too long ago the the pharma industry was in a position somewhat similar to where RFK is today. Maybe for different reasons, but the bashing was there. Once rfk is gone, we'll be looking for someone in the HHS world to bash again.