Thank you Michigan?

Letitrip

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That was right up there with the RU vs St Johns game in the garden - That little corrupt catholic school ref just decided to leave the arena. I really may have to rethink college sports. It is like watching content on social media - is it real or is it AI.
 

Letitrip

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Watch how the MS sports media gloss it over. The whole sport has been corrupted. Even in the Rutgers game on Thursday we seemed to get a bunch of calls down the stretch. We just suck so bad we could not take advantage.

I May have to start watching bass fishing or darts before they get tainted by money.
 

Shelby65

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Shelby looked it up. In college, it‘s a dead ball once it crosses the plane of the back of the end zone, which presumably happened at 0:01 It doesn’t matter that it was touched at 0:00.

Unless shown video proof it crossed the plane at 0:00, Shelby thinks it was the right call, sadly.
 
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APKnight

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Not sure they were robbed. Clear the ball was in the air at 0:00 so there must be a rule we don’t know about.
Yes there is such a rule. It says let the blue blood win so that they can’t take the heat off of Rutgers.
 

rcube1994

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Shelby looked it up. In college, it‘s a dead ball once it crosses the plane of the back of the end zone, which presumably happened at 0:01 It doesn’t matter that it was touched at 0:00.

Unless shown video proof it crossed the plane at 0:00, Shelby thinks it was the right call, sadly.
So if a michigan player would have toed the back of the end zone and caught the ball they would have ruled it incomplete?
 
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Doctor Worm

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Shelby looked it up. In college, it‘s a dead ball once it crosses the plane of the back of the end zone, which presumably happened at 0:01 It doesn’t matter that it was touched at 0:00.

Unless shown video proof it crossed the plane at 0:00, Shelby thinks it was the right call, sadly.
Terry McAuley, the NBC rules analyst, disagrees with Shelby. McAuley says that the clock stops when the ball hits the ground, or (as in this case) when it is touched by a player who is out of bounds.

Would Shelby be so kind as to provide a citation, cut-paste, or link to substantiate his research?
 

APKnight

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That is an excellent point. My reference was AI, so I suppose my point may be incorrect. Shelby retracts his flawed assertion and will re-check the AI.
So… Western Michigan beat Michigan. A MAC team beat a Big 10 team. Sh*t happens.
 

Shelby65

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Terry McAuley, the NBC rules analyst, disagrees with Shelby. McAuley says that the clock stops when the ball hits the ground, or (as in this case) when it is touched by a player who is out of bounds.

Would Shelby be so kind as to provide a citation, cut-paste, or link to substantiate his research?
Worm…additional research, which doesn’t support Shelby’s initial assertion, does provide a seemingly feasible explanation of the call being correct. The game clock tv viewers and attendees see doesnt indicate tenths of a second like NBA game clocks do but the booth’s official clock doesSo there’s a full second left once the game clock drops below 1 sec and displays 0. For the sake of argument, there could have been a tenth of a second still left with the public game clock showing 0.

Shelby trusts there was no conspiracy to give Michigan the extra play.
 

APKnight

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Worm…additional research, which doesn’t support Shelby’s initial assertion, does provide a seemingly feasible explanation of the call being correct. The game clock tv viewers and attendees see doesnt indicate tenths of a second like NBA game clocks do but the booth’s official clock doesSo there’s a full second left once the game clock drops below 1 sec and displays 0. For the sake of argument, there could have been a tenth of a second still left with the public game clock showing 0.

Shelby trusts there was no conspiracy to give Michigan the extra play.
Oh come now.
 

Anon503350

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Michigan lost, even though they get the "win". No way should they have given them another play. I wonder if Michigan fans are as disgusted as RU fans are. Probably not. Even if they lost, they wouldn't ever be mocked like Rutgers. People love to pile on Rutgers. It must be a NJ thing.
 

Shelby65

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Oh come now.
No, really. If the clock we saw showed tenths of a second you might see the player touched the ball at 0.3 like we see in basketball shot clocks. But in football in that scenario we only see the 0 on the game clock

Apparently, and Shelby believes, booth review with a more detailed clock showed the ball was touched less than a second after the clock we saw first showed 0
 

RUinPinehurst

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Agree a million times over

I’m so pissed , replay cut ins already glossing over horrible call

Entire replay team should be fired tonight
Officiating crew suspended 2 games

ZERO ACCOUNTABILITY unless multiple people get fired
Go Heels!

"Special" schools get "special" treatment. They find a way to get "things" to go in their favor. Capisce?
 
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PSAL_Hoops

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Watch how the MS sports media gloss it over. The whole sport has been corrupted. Even in the Rutgers game on Thursday we seemed to get a bunch of calls down the stretch. We just suck so bad we could not take advantage.

I May have to start watching bass fishing or darts before they get tainted by money.

In fairness, I thought there were several out of bounds hits by UMass that were not called in the first half of our game. It didn’t impact the outcome, but I would not say we got an overwhelmingly “friendly” whistle. Nothing like Michigan. Again - there was nothing the refs could’ve done to help us regardless.
 
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They said clocks all synced but clock on TV is not one of them? Is that really the explanation? the ball very clearly is in the air, clock hits zero, well before it's touched. I don't care if the kid who touched it came from the stands. What's the difference?

It's almost as if they are TRYING to turn people off from their sport.
 

MrsScrew

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Refs thought that it was a soccer game & added time to the clock at the end.

Total BS. Western Michigan won that game & no one should tell them otherwise.

Another * game for Michigan
 
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Section124

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Great job by the B1G in the statement and showing the audio/video of the replay booth.
Kudos to the WMU coach for his comments. I would have loved for UM to lose but they made the right call. WMU needs to defend better anyway. UM QB is garbage.
 

newell138

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Sorta like having a firework show after getting your a_ _ kicked by a MAC team😂
Yep. They all thought they lost. I bet a few fans had to run back in from the concourse for the last play. I don’t blame them for celebrating a win that was a loss a moment prior. The fireworks though should have been canceled
 

bigmatt718

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We are all Chuck in Better Call Saul after the clock chicanery in the Big House last night.

 

Leonard23

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Great job by the B1G in the statement and showing the audio/video of the replay booth.
Kudos to the WMU coach for his comments. I would have loved for UM to lose but they made the right call. WMU needs to defend better anyway. UM QB is garbage.
If you believe the B1G statement and video not showing the clock in it, and ignore the actual video of the stadium clock, then I have a bridge for sale in Brooklyn that may interest you. We all saw the stadium clock at 0:00 before a player touched the ball on video and that was the official clock, even Terry McAulay confirmed it was.
 

Doctor Worm

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Here is the official B1G statement, which IMO raises more questions than it answers.

"Following video review, it was determined Western Michigan’s #18 started his jump from an established out-of-bounds position (left foot) and made contact with the ball with one second remaining on the clock. As shown in the provided video of what was viewed during the replay process, a side-by-side view of the play and the game clock, using a direct shot of the game clock in the stadium, was used to determine the final ruling." (Emphasis added.)

So, they used the game clock. That nullifies McAuley's "two clock" theory, which is the only theory that makes sense.

Because if they are claiming that the game clock still had a second left on it when the ball was touched, they are asking us to ignore the evidence of our own eyes:

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Letitrip

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There is a nice positive that came out of the Rutgers loss and the Michigan steal. It is now more widely recognized that Dave Portnoy is a total fraud and a tremendous ***.
 
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