Tebow made an interesting point about the NIL.

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How does the lineman who has won championships with no deal handle a big money QB with 6 figures before he ever takes a snap?
 

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Talked about this last night at dinner. Will be interesting for sure. Will a Qb making 1.4 mil throw money to each of his ol? This legal? How many qbs or star players would want to give money out? Going to get interesting. The big ugliest in the nfl at least have a few million! College OL value will be interesting.
 

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I'm pretty sure most nfl qbs make way more than their oline. They seem to make it work.
 

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The seems like a real reach from the “players shouldnt get paid but I dont have a great reason for it” side of things
 

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Talked about this last night at dinner. Will be interesting for sure. Will a Qb making 1.4 mil throw money to each of his ol? This legal? How many qbs or star players would want to give money out? Going to get interesting. The big ugliest in the nfl at least have a few million! College OL value will be interesting.

Not the first guy to question it. I think it will work out as long as the high paid player continues to work his *** off for the team, and maybe buys presents for his linemen. If he starts putting himself and his deals above the team, you may have issues.
 

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I’m sure this has been brought up, but what do you think the over under on these NIL guys running into tax problems in a little while?
 
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Not the first guy to question it. I think it will work out as long as the high paid player continues to work his *** off for the team, and maybe buys presents for his linemen. If he starts putting himself and his deals above the team, you may have issues.

Agree. I'm still worried this is a Pandora's box that will change college football for the worst. I can see a new classification above the current structure for blue bloods after a few years of no one outside the big programs being able to compete any more. That may take quite a while but I can see it happening.
 

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If these college programs are smart they will make a money management/tax class mandatory for its athletes.
 
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If these college programs are smart they will make a money management/tax class mandatory for its athletes.

This education like most should have been started by mom and dad a long time before college. This is one of our society's failings, a general lack of understanding of basic economics.
 

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This education like most should have been started by mom and dad a long time before college. This is one of our society's failings, a general lack of understanding of basic economics.

Absolutely. Money management and how to make a budget and stick to it, including paying yourself first with regular saving, should be required in all high school curriculums. And, like you said, parents should teach it too. I am so glad that my parents set lessons for me in being frugal with money. It paid off for me.
 

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This education like most should have been started by mom and dad a long time before college. This is one of our society's failings, a general lack of understanding of basic economics.

What if your parents don't know it to teach it to you?
 

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This education like most should have been started by mom and dad a long time before college. This is one of our society's failings, a general lack of understanding of basic economics.

Y'all know what side of the spectrum I am on but this is a white privilege answer if there ever was one. Most people in this country have no clue on basic economics. When you get into places where some of these kids come from their parent or parents might not even have a checking account. Also basic economics doesn't cover the money some of these NIL kids are making.
 

wsjmsu75

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Y'all know what side of the spectrum I am on but this is a white privilege answer if there ever was one. Most people in this country have no clue on basic economics. When you get into places where some of these kids come from their parent or parents might not even have a checking account. Also basic economics doesn't cover the money some of these NIL kids are making.

Careful there Bruce. You will get a lot of people here riled up by mentioning "white privilege". But I totally agree with what you are saying. That is why basic household budgeting and finance should be taught in all schools.

Eta- I was just thinking that this type of course could so easily be designed as an online only. All it needs to do is simulate income and regular monthly expenses, but also challenge the student's ability to handle unexpected expenses by having an emergency savings account. Could also simulate responsible borrowing and credit card usage, with emphasis on keeping credit card balances paid off to avoid the typical high interest charges.
 
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Bulldog Bruce

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If these college programs are smart they will make a money management/tax class mandatory for its athletes.

I have posted this before. If these colleges were smart they would each have a curriculum on professional sports. It is a major industry in this country and much of the world. You can have classes on finance, communication, law, marketing, and the athletic side of it. Why should a kid who goes to school and wants to be a pro athlete have to pick a totally different career path to study. Of course they can if they want, but give those who want to be pro athletes, or be in that industry, an option of purely concentrating on being the best they can be in their chosen path. They shouldn't be limited on their time spent with the highest paid people in the school.
 

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You can bury your head where the sun don’t shine, but this is going to eventually hurt more players than it helps.
 

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For the linemen that do get jealous, I’d get it, but my thoughts on this are the same as they were before NIL. If you want a QB’s salary, go become one. For 99.99% of the world that try, they’ll quickly find out why elite QBs get valued like they do.
 

Bulldog Bruce

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I know but this is exactly what gives leftist fodder to make their statements. Any time you make suppositions that everyone is like you with the same experiences, then it could be a problem.

I will give a story from my college days to illustrate. When I was at home our vehicles were serviced by a local service station. They would come to the house and pick up the car and take it in for service (Oil Changes, etc.) and bring them back. Year 2 when I had a vehicle in Starkville going to Jackson I get stuck on I55. The engine seized. So dad yells at me that we have to replace the engine and asks me when I last changed the oil. I said I don't know, I never have. No one ever told me I had to change it every 3,000 miles.
 

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Bruce, I'm older school than you and I agree with you. The problem I see is while it will help a few, this is going to be so foreign to some of these kids and their families that I hope "strongly encouraged temporary financial supervisors" will be included in the program.
 
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Y'all know what side of the spectrum I am on but this is a white privilege answer if there ever was one. Most people in this country have no clue on basic economics. When you get into places where some of these kids come from their parent or parents might not even have a checking account. Also basic economics doesn't cover the money some of these NIL kids are making.

I hear what you are saying, and I sympathize, but it does not change the fact that parents have a lot of moral responsibilities when bringing kids into the world, and educating on the correct way to do things is one of those responsibilities. What I am trying to say is that a 3hr course on money management will not necessarily teach to a kid what others have been taught their entire life. But, I agree it is better than nothing.
 
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I have posted this before. If these colleges were smart they would each have a curriculum on professional sports. It is a major industry in this country and much of the world. You can have classes on finance, communication, law, marketing, and the athletic side of it. Why should a kid who goes to school and wants to be a pro athlete have to pick a totally different career path to study. Of course they can if they want, but give those who want to be pro athletes, or be in that industry, an option of purely concentrating on being the best they can be in their chosen path. They shouldn't be limited on their time spent with the highest paid people in the school.

I've heard this before and it really makes sense to teach people who are going to pros and you can identify them pretty early on. Make it an independent study during the off season.

I don't really care much for the privilege term. I had a lot of black friends and spent time with them places and times other than just ball games. I understand what you are saying I'm just tired of Progressives tell my I had white privilege when Mom raised my brother and I herself while working two jobs in the 70's just to live just above the poverty level.

/semi rant
 

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I hate the term. My point is that was the type of statement they get to use as an example to coin the phrase. To assume that all parents could teach their kids basic economics is silly.
 
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I hate the term. My point is that was the type of statement they get to use as an example to coin the phrase. To assume that all parents could teach their kids basic economics is silly.

I know. You said you did. That was just to get it off my chest.

Peace
 

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Yes I agree if everyone practiced individual responsibility it would be Utopia; and my preferred form of it. The problem is Utopia can't exist either as a communal or an individually responsible society. When I went to school we did receive some life lessons and not just scholastic lessons. I think it would be something good to have available for those who weren't able to get it at home. Especially when all of a sudden a person that comes from the lower economic levels all of a sudden is earning millions of dollars. Basic Income does not totally cover that situation.
 
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Yes I agree if everyone practiced individual responsibility it would be Utopia; and my preferred form of it. The problem is Utopia can't exist either as a communal or an individually responsible society. When I went to school we did receive some life lessons and not just scholastic lessons. I think it would be something good to have available for those who weren't able to get it at home. Especially when all of a sudden a person that comes from the lower economic levels all of a sudden is earning millions of dollars. Basic Income does not totally cover that situation.

I don't disagree with what you have said. Perhaps part of the long term solution should be teaching some parenting skills and encouraging family development and success. I don't think society or the education system will ever be able to teach everything that kids need.
 

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You would be surprised of the number of people who have master’s degrees who can’t balance a checkbook, make change or tell time on a non digital clock/watch. Not to mention such task as signing their name in cursive or driving a stick shift.
 
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