Teacher Union Brainwashed Idiots

[bornaneer]

Some fools don't even know what's in the bill.....and they are teaching our kids.

On Tuesday, a group of teachers surrounded Carmichael outside the West entrance of the State Capitol Building and engaged in sometimes heated conversation with the Senate's conservative leader.
"Public schools have to accept everybody," said Daina Berry, a middle school teacher from Kanawha County, told Carmichael. "We do our best every day to help every student. With charter schools, they can say, 'I don't want that kid in my school.' Then public schools have fewer of those better students to help our lesser students."
"You put forth a supposition that they're not going to take other kids, they're only going to take the cream of the crop," Carmichael answered. "How would you feel if you knew the bill said they must have open enrollment?"
"Charter schools are still public schools and would still answer to the county boards and the state Board of Education for student performance standards. If the school is not following its charter, it could be shut down."

 

[countryroads89_rivals]

You’re an idiot. You have proven it, repeatedly.

 

[dave]

You’re an idiot. You have proven it, repeatedly.

Thats the way to reply to quotes. Call someone an idiot for quoting them.

Days later you still seem mad you lost.

 

[MountaineerWV]

Wow. Another anti-teacher thread by the OP. I'm SHOCKED!

 

[wvu2007]

Wow. Another anti-teacher thread by the OP. I'm SHOCKED!

You mad!

 

[bornaneer]

Wow. Another anti-teacher thread by the OP. I'm SHOCKED!

LOL.......I'm not anti-teacher.......my daughter is a teacher. I AM anti-Union Thug Lemmings....... and.....unlike you...I AM for a better education for WV's children.

 

[bornaneer]

You’re an idiot. You have proven it, repeatedly.

LOL.....You're such a dork. But...I will have to give you credit.....after being beaten down as much as you have.....you still come back for more.

 

[bornaneer]

Thats the way to reply to quotes. Call someone an idiot for quoting them.

Days later you still seem mad you lost.

Some folks just can't deal with the facts of this bill....even when it's in black and white.

 

[dave]

This bill is the beat thing to happen to teachers in years. This is exactly why the teachers union is against it.

 

[MountaineerWV]

This bill is the beat thing to happen to teachers in years. This is exactly why the teachers union is against it.

Now, Dave, did I change your reply or is this just another example of poor grammar by you?

 

[MountaineerWV]

LOL.......I'm not anti-teacher.......my daughter is a teacher. I AM anti-Union Thug Lemmings....... and.....unlike you...I AM for a better education for WV's children.

Sure.

 

[dave]

Now, Dave, did I change your reply or is this just another example of poor grammar by you?

Poor grammar? Because of a typo? Are you really this desperate? I can take it easy if you need a break.

 

[MountaineerWV]

Poor grammar? Because of a typo? Are you really this desperate? I can take it easy if you need a break.

Hey, I'm just making sure.....after your claims on Country.

 

[dave]

Hey, I'm just making sure.....after your claims on Country.

Its nice of you to try and cover for him because honestly he needs the help but I dont have to make claims when the facts are front and center for all to see.

 

[moe]

Some folks just can't deal with the facts of this bill....even when it's in black and white.

So? Just because you like it, why should anyone else? Why should any delegate vote for it? make your case instead of just complaining.

 

[dave]

So? Just because you like it, why should anyone else? Why should any delegate vote for it? make your case instead of just complaining.

Because it is good for students.

 

[bornaneer]

So? Just because you like it, why should anyone else? Why should any delegate vote for it? make your case instead of just complaining.

Education reform will hopefully improve the education for our children. Not everyone has to "like it".....but let's give it a try because "business as usual " has been a dismal failure. I also don't like it when people outright lie about the facts of this bill as this anti-reform teacher did.

 

[Boomboom521]

LOL.......I'm not anti-teacher.......my daughter is a teacher. I AM anti-Union Thug Lemmings....... and.....unlike you...I AM for a better education for WV's children.

Anti-union? A West Virginian should have a more comprehensive view of unions. Although, I agree teacher unions are making education a tougher fight.

 

[DvlDog4WVU]

Education reform will hopefully improve the education for our children. Not everyone has to "like it".....but let's give it a try because "business as usual " has been a dismal failure. I also don't like it when people outright lie about the facts of this bill as this anti-reform teacher did.

The teachers lost my support during the strike and their refusal to allow STEM related “bonuses” or signing up for common sense performance metrics.

 

[DvlDog4WVU]

Anti-union? A West Virginian should have a more comprehensive view of unions. Although, I agree teacher unions are making education a tougher fight.

I don’t believe he’s not anti-union holistically. Just in the case of education reform and the unwillingness of the teacher’s union to allow smart reform.

 

[moe]

Education reform will hopefully improve the education for our children. Not everyone has to "like it".....but let's give it a try because "business as usual " has been a dismal failure. I also don't like it when people outright lie about the facts of this bill as this anti-reform teacher did.

Ok because it's different, I see. Well who could argue with that? lol

 

[bornaneer]

Ok because it's different, I see. Well who could argue with that? lol

Anyone that wants change when something isn't working. Some people are OK with failure.....some are not.

 

[bornaneer]

Anti-union? A West Virginian should have a more comprehensive view of unions. Although, I agree teacher unions are making education a tougher fight.

I was a member of a Union for 21 years......and it was a great Union......never....never....ever told me OR asked me whom to vote for. I am against Unions when they subvert the public interest like they are doing with Education Reform.

 

[WVUCOOPER]

Anti-union? A West Virginian should have a more comprehensive view of unions. Although, I agree teacher unions are making education a tougher fight.

Private unions vs public unions is VERY different. Teachers can vote their bosses out, welders can't.

 

[countryroads89_rivals]

Here is a brief summary of the public charter school aspect of this bill:

Let’s force taxpayers to pay for public charter schools, that will have no certification requirements for teachers, have no continuing education and training requirements for teachers, won’t be bound by state guidelines, have no mandated curriculum, may or may not provide food for students (most likely will not), may or may not provide transportation for students (most likely will not) and if the enrollment in existing public schools declines, those schools may lose public funding and staffing.

And as an added bonus, friends of state legislators, who want to start these schools, may make a very handsome profit.


There’s certainly nothing corrupt going on here. LOL!

 

[moe]

Anyone that wants change when something isn't working. Some people are OK with failure.....some are not.

You're a terrible salesperson and not convincing at all. Since when is different assumed to be better?

 

[bornaneer]

Here is a brief summary of the public charter school aspect of this bill:

Let’s force taxpayers to pay for public charter schools, that will have no certification requirements for teachers, have no continuing education and training requirements for teachers, won’t be bound by state guidelines, have no mandated curriculum, may or may not provide food for students (most likely will not), may or may not provide transportation for students (most likely will not) and if the enrollment in existing public schools declines, those schools may lose public funding and staffing.

And as an added bonus, friends of state legislators, who want to start these schools, may make a very handsome profit.


There’s certainly nothing corrupt going on here. LOL!

Yes.....I hear that they are now interviewing residents at Huttonsville Correctional Center for administrative and teacher positions for the first three charter schools.

 

[moe]

Yes.....I hear that they are now interviewing residents at Huttonsville Correctional Center for administrative and teacher positions for the first three charter schools.

Really? you act like you're some expert on the topic yet you can't make a case for charter schools and you hating teacher's unions is not a reason which is about all you've come up with so far.

 

[Keyser76]

Lol, If I had a nickel for every trump idiot I know who still thinks they are pro Union, some of them even think "right to work" laws are pro Union, The GOP has to name things to confuse their rubes voting against their own economic interests,

 

[bornaneer]

Really? you act like you're some expert on the topic yet you can't make a case for charter schools and you hating teacher's unions is not a reason which is about all you've come up with so far.

Don't claim to be an expert on the topic.......just someone that deals in facts with a heavy dose of reality and common sense. The reasons for supporting Education Reform are obvious.

 

[countryroads89_rivals]

Don't claim to be an expert on the topic.......just someone that deals in facts with a heavy dose of reality and common sense. The reasons for supporting Education Reform are obvious.

No one is against education reform. Everyone disagrees on how to accomplish it. Public charter schools are definitely not the answer.

 

[moe]

Don't claim to be an expert on the topic.......just someone that deals in facts with a heavy dose of reality and common sense. The reasons for supporting Education Reform are obvious.

Fine, you've got nothing, no facts, no heavy dose of reality and no common sense. When you call teachers idiots and fools, I gave you credit that you might have some knowledge on the subject. Turns out you've just got a big mouth that likes to call people names but not one clue about the subject you started a thread on, well done.

 

[bornaneer]

No one is against education reform. Everyone disagrees on how to accomplish it. Public charter schools are definitely not the answer.

Charter schools may not be the answer.....I NEVER said they would be a cure all. But....I don't think that them being a part of the bill is the reason to scuttle it. If the local school boards don't want a charter school....they can stop it.

 

[bornaneer]

Fine, you've got nothing, no facts, no heavy dose of reality and no common sense. When you call teachers idiots and fools, I gave you credit that you might have some knowledge on the subject. Turns out you've just got a big mouth that likes to call people names but not one clue about the subject you started a thread on, well done.

LOL......nothing but the same from you.....you are hilarious and as dumb as a rock.

 

[moe]

LOL......nothing but the same from you.....you are hilarious and as dumb as a rock.

Keep waving that white flag, can't blame you.

 

[bornaneer]

Keep waving that white flag, can't blame you.

I think you might want to change your board name....this is a better fit.......you're no Moe.

 

[moe]

I think you might want to change your board name....this is a better fit.......you're no Moe.

At least I can discuss topics I start threads on.

 

[bornaneer]

At least I can discuss topics I start threads on.

LMAO.....YOU DISCUSS TOPICS? You're the most partisan hack on this board.......Priceless.

 

[moe]

LMAO.....YOU DISCUSS TOPICS? You're the most partisan hack on this board.......Priceless.

Old age is rotting your brain. What is wrong with having an opinion? I can guarantee if you ask me about a thread I've started (or about any other), I can explain my position unlike yourself. Do everyone a favor and go back to having nothing to say.

 

[bornaneer]

Old age is rotting your brain. What is wrong with having an opinion? I can guarantee if you ask me about a thread I've started (or about any other), I can explain my position unlike yourself. Do everyone a favor and go back to having nothing to say.

Good Gawd......nothing wrong with an opinion.....I've stated my position several times in this thread.......you're so bullheaded that you won't even try to understand it. We are talking about education reform in WV and you try to interject Trump into the thread.