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[biazza38]

Wow now I’m ticked off. Students turned away from the Penn State game for these stupid recruits? Schiano doing his best to kill 2 programs at once?? Like someone else said maybe scoring a point in a B1G game works do better for football recruiting

The basketball blowhards are the most miserable group of people. You guys are a different breed. I swear, some of you want football to fail.
You all sound like a bunch of entitled babies.
Life isn’t fair. I missed football games in the passed before when I was student because it was a Thursday night and I had other priorities.

 

[JerseyNoles]

The basketball blowhards are the most miserable group of people. You guys are a different breed. I swear, some of you want football to fail.
You all sound like a bunch of entitled babies.
Life isn’t fair. I missed football games in the passed before when I was student because it was a Thursday night and I had other priorities.

It's not about FB getting shafted here

FB needs seats for big bball games
FB pays the bills, without FB we're not in the B1G

Every school gives FB seats
We'll continue to give FB seats as long as we're playing FB

It's the amount, and location, which is unnessary
No 5 star recruit isn't coming here b/c they're at the top of 110 instead of the bottom
They're not saying to Schiano "sorry, we were a little bunched up, kinda tight, so no thanks"

Converstly, the students turned away / given worse seats are the future donors of the program. Those are the future - the ones funding NIL, the ones paying for season tickets, per seat fees, etc.

Now you're turned them off towards FB even more
When the team is bad, the last thing you want is more apathy amongst your future generations of fans

Keep giving FB seats to bball
It absolutely helps w/recuriting and is needed

But change the location and spacing - last night was borderline embarrassing

 

[carmenst]

The football team should bring ALL of its remaining recruits to MSG for the Feb. 4th game against Michigan State….and be done with it . That would give back section 110 for the remaining home games to students.

 

[RUinLondon]

I dont understand why you cant pick up in advamce

Seriously, what the hell is Rutgers doing? When I was a student we could pick up tickets in the dining hall and there was serious student demand for basketball tickets back then (Bannon era in the late '90s). In this day and age why is RU making students line up a few hours before a game to pick up tickets? So stupid and small time.

 

[NewJerseyHawk]

We have Minnesota at 830 on a Wednesday night.

Michigan State on a Saturday and a national FOX broadcast at MSG.

Nebraska at 8PM on a Tuesday night.

Michigan at 830 on a Thursday night (downtown New Brunswick should be buzzing after this game).....

Northwestern in the season finale at 730 on a Sunday night, before heading to the B1G tournament.

With all of the complaints about the tickets or space, I really hope the seats that were used for recruiting are actually filled and in place for these 4 home games. I know Michigan will be on fire, but if the batch of seats taken up last night, created a situation where students were turned away, then that's gotta be fixed ASAP.

I don't anticipate any other situations like this, but it would not surprise me to see some sort of recruiting experience for Football for the Michigan game. It will be a hot ticket and a Thursday night.

 

[kcg88]

Seriously, what the hell is Rutgers doing? When I was a student we could pick up tickets in the dining hall and there was serious student demand for basketball tickets back then (Bannon era in the late '90s). In this day and age why is RU making students line up a few hours before a game to pick up tickets? So stupid and small time.

Because they don't want any no-shows.

 

[biazza38]

It's not about FB getting shafted here

FB needs seats for big bball games
FB pays the bills, without FB we're not in the B1G

Every school gives FB seats
We'll continue to give FB seats as long as we're playing FB

It's the amount, and location, which is unnessary
No 5 star recruit isn't coming here b/c they're at the top of 110 instead of the bottom
They're not saying to Schiano "sorry, we were a little bunched up, kinda tight, so no thanks"

Converstly, the students turned away / given worse seats are the future donors of the program. Those are the future - the ones funding NIL, the ones paying for season tickets, per seat fees, etc.

Now you're turned them off towards FB even more
When the team is bad, the last thing you want is more apathy amongst your future generations of fans

Keep giving FB seats to bball
It absolutely helps w/recuriting and is needed

But change the location and spacing - last night was borderline embarrassing

Every school in the country turns students away for games. It’s life
Yes, it’s a lot of tickets.
But there’s also a bunch of visitors in the section who probably have never been to college basketball game before.

 

[DC8690]

I don't understand Rutgers fans trashing one of its own programs. Making the football programs better benefits all the rest of the programs, like it or not, they drive the bus. The noise level was fine last night. Showing the football recruits what our fan base looks like with a successful program is exactly how to attract players to stay home. A student showing up at halftime and expecting a seat is ridiculous. So having an empty seat waiting for them is show up at halftime is better than having a full section? I have a bigger problem with section 110 who look like they are barely fans and just there because they had nothing better to do.

 

[Duff366]

The point is it probably would have been full with students

 

[rupittsburgh]

The point is it probably would have been full with students

Who cares? The students get plenty of seats, there could be students turned away even if these were open. Demand is high, they need to get there early.

 

[bac2therac]

Seriously, what the hell is Rutgers doing? When I was a student we could pick up tickets in the dining hall and there was serious student demand for basketball tickets back then (Bannon era in the late '90s). In this day and age why is RU making students line up a few hours before a game to pick up tickets? So stupid and small time.

this, going to start a thread

 

[RutgersRaRa]

Because they don't want any no-shows.

 

[bac2therac]

Every school in the country turns students away for games. It’s life
Yes, it’s a lot of tickets.
But there’s also a bunch of visitors in the section who probably have never been to college basketball game before.

lol they dont give up 1/3 of the student section, the rac is a small arena compared to almost all power 6 schools...really only Duke is that small

 

[bac2therac]

aalso RU dropped the ball and had these people walking the sidelines with the national anthem ready to start instead of fully in the seats. RU staff know that the tip is 630 so thats a bad job to not get them in quick enough or at least have them come through the side entrences

well at least Greg lost his power to force 300 empty seats until the grand entrance at the 16 minute timeout

 

[JerseyNoles]

Every school in the country turns students away for games. It’s life
Yes, it’s a lot of tickets.
But there’s also a bunch of visitors in the section who probably have never been to college basketball game before.

Again, none of those kids are saying no to Rutgers b/c it's a little cramped and they're in rows 20-30

I'm a football guy first - parade the guys in, announce them, have them high five fans, make a spectacle of it, etc.

But last night was embarrassing. Hopefully Rutgers learns from it moving forward

 

[Duff366]

Who cares? The students get plenty of seats, there could be students turned away even if these were open. Demand is high, they need to get there early.

There is 10 home Big Ten games, space it out. No need to have practically the whole section. Football may drive the money bus, but RU basketball is changing the RU sports perception which should be respected and in many ways is just as important.

Like Bac said, it's a small arena, an extra 200 students is a big deal atmosphere and noise-wise

Next time RU is relevant in football, Pike should bring 1300 basketball recruits and fill up a football section

 

[Luvscarletknights]

There were seats to be had in the student section right up to tip-off
Again mostly behind the band

But again the question is, were any students not able to get in ?

arriving after tip-off and then having to sit in the 300’s is not the worst thing as long as they get in

Yes. When I arrived I heard numerous students walking away and saying I guess I will eat the diner.

 

[Saint Puppy]

Definitely need to have football recruits at these games - football is the golden goose (if we ever get there) but I definitely am putting students in the first 10 rows of 110. Also 18 rows for recruits?? Seems a bit excessive to me - number should be cut down.

Also great point about the recruit section being in black - how are we not giving them Scarlet Rutgers shirts to wear for the game? That's a fail on our recruiting dept.

Yes the recruit section does not get into the game as much - but in their defense we are presenting to them, and this is just part of the presentation so they are taking things in. We are all Rutgers fanatics, so we look over there and say WTF? Truth be told if I was in their shoes, and this is the 5th school Im seeing - I'm thinking this is great, but I'm not standing and going in crazy Rutgers fan mode.

Having students wait in line to get in a game is nothing new. Students sleep out for Duke/UNC or other big games. I think it kind of creates a cool atmosphere and puts students in the seats early. From a practical standpoint - missing class, wasting students time, etc. not the nicest thing.

 

[wheezer]

Yes. When I arrived I heard numerous students walking away and saying I guess I will eat the diner.

first I am hearing this, and then it is a bit concerning...

we can discuss this forever, but the school will probably keep doing it if Greg wants it, and if it has a positive effect on
football recruiting

We have seen multiple football recruits mention the bb game after their visit and some even saying it was the
highlight of their visit.

so, it probably will continue

I would suggest to the students to get to the game at least
20 minutes before tip, if they are seriously wanting to see the game.....

 

[toby83]

and if it has a positive effect on
football recruiting

but does it?

 

[wheezer]

but does it?

you bring in recruit and give your best pitch

if the recruit says that the highlight of his visit was the basketball game, you have to keep doing it.....and there were many recruits that said this

landing the recruit needs a lot more than just the bb game....and we do fail getting the player, many times

but as long as the players themselves say this, how can you stop it.......it would be foolish

 

[RU206]

aalso RU dropped the ball and had these people walking the sidelines with the national anthem ready to start instead of fully in the seats. RU staff know that the tip is 630 so thats a bad job to not get them in quick enough or at least have them come through the side entrences

well at least Greg lost his power to force 300 empty seats until the grand entrance at the 16 minute timeout

I agree. The timing needs to be better. Get to the seats before they sing the national anthem

 

[MrsScrew_rivals32693]

first I am hearing this, and then it is a bit concerning...

we can discuss this forever, but the school will probably keep doing it if Greg wants it, and if it has a positive effect on
football recruiting

We have seen multiple football recruits mention the bb game after their visit and some even saying it was the
highlight of their visit.

so, it probably will continue

I would suggest to the students to get to the game at least
20 minutes before tip, if they are seriously wanting to see the game.....

Please see the first post in this thread. The line was past the diner at 430pm. 2 hours before tip & a full hour before the doors opened.

 

[RUInsanityToo]

Very interesting thread. My son is a freshman at RU and has student Football and Basketball tix. He's been to a majority of the games in both sports and I haven't heard one complaint from him about student seating or otherwise.

 

[Scarlet4ever]

Some kid wandered over at halftime and couldn’t get in and we are blaming the football team for that? Okay????

 

[GORU2014]

I don't understand Rutgers fans trashing one of its own programs. Making the football programs better benefits all the rest of the programs, like it or not, they drive the bus. The noise level was fine last night. Showing the football recruits what our fan base looks like with a successful program is exactly how to attract players to stay home. A student showing up at halftime and expecting a seat is ridiculous. So having an empty seat waiting for them is show up at halftime is better than having a full section? I have a bigger problem with section 110 who look like they are barely fans and just there because they had nothing better to do.

You do realize that section 110 WAS the recruits? They consistently make no noise and sit on their hands. You can’t say that you have no problem with this and then say that your only problem is with this.

Also, students were in line starting around 3:30 and tickets ran out in under a half hour after they started distributing. The “showing up at halftime” comment is just totally inaccurate for the vast majority of students.

 

[toby83]

 

[DC8690]

You do realize that section 110 WAS the recruits? They consistently make no noise and sit on their hands. You can’t say that you have no problem with this and then say that your only problem is with this.

Also, students were in line starting around 3:30 and tickets ran out in under a half hour after they started distributing. The “showing up at halftime” comment is just totally inaccurate for the vast majority of students.

I meant 118, and I was talking about the tweet above.

 

[King of S]

Wow now I’m ticked off. Students turned away from the Penn State game for these stupid recruits? Schiano doing his best to kill 2 programs at once?? Like someone else said maybe scoring a point in a B1G game works do better for football recruiting

GS runs the show. Not sure it should be that way but who stands up to him?

 

[GORU2014]

I meant 118, and I was talking about the tweet above.

The 118 redesign isn’t good, no arguments here. I guess we’re getting more money at least for giving a popcorn and water

 

[RutgersRaRa]

So let's review.

We have what is almost categorically recognized by opposing coaches, players and the media as one of the least hospitable arenas for opposing teams in the country, a crowd that is among the loudest in the country, a fan base that is finally being rewarded for decades of embarrassing, boring, inept and angering play, and the refrain is that displacing the most supportive and also very loud (contrary to the idiotic assertions of those who say otherwise) fans to other parts of the arena is necessary.

Let's consider what is generating these neolithic assertions. There was a line of students for tickets, which is a good problem to have. The students could have gotten season tickets prior to the season beginning, but didn't--normal student behavior (normal ticket-buying behavior, as is evident by Springsteen fans who camp out for tix only to not get them). Rutgers doesn't have a system in place for the students to know in advance if they will get tickets, so let the department figure out a relatively simple computerized solution to that issue. These students weren't lining up for the earlier games this season, which isn't a knock on them, it's a statement about normal fan behavior--when a team is good, the ticket is a hot item. Season-ticket holders are risk takers, and are rewarded for taking that risk when the team is good and penalized when the team is bad.

Somehow, magically, the RAC will become louder and a better place with a few hundred students in the front rows, at a price tag of about $2mm/per year, which is what the revenues from the current ticket holders and donors in those spaces generate. Take exception if you want to football using 300 seats as a recruiting tool, but the notion that moving the money people out given our AD's financial woes, all because of a picture of students who didn't get their tickets in advance, and possibly because they weren't going to the games if we weren't good this year, is standard keyboard lunacy.

We are a developing program with the bumps and bruises that go along with success, but these broadsweeping, grandiose and misguided ideas of making drastic changes due to a picture of students on line is jackassery in all its simplistic lunacy.

 

[GORU2014]

So let's review.

We have what is almost categorically recognized by opposing coaches, players and the media as one of the least hospitable arenas for opposing teams in the country, a crowd that is among the loudest in the country, a fan base that is finally being rewarded for decades of embarrassing, boring, inept and angering play, and the refrain is that displacing the most supportive and also very loud (contrary to the idiotic assertions of those who say otherwise) fans to other parts of the arena is necessary.

Let's consider what is generating these neolithic assertions. There was a line of students for tickets, which is a good problem to have. The students could have gotten season tickets prior to the season beginning, but didn't--normal student behavior (normal ticket-buying behavior, as is evident by Springsteen fans who camp out for tix only to not get them). Rutgers doesn't have a system in place for the students to know in advance if they will get tickets, so let the department figure out a relatively simple computerized solution to that issue. These students weren't lining up for the earlier games this season, which isn't a knock on them, it's a statement about normal fan behavior--when a team is good, the ticket is a hot item. Season-ticket holders are risk takers, and are rewarded for taking that risk when the team is good and penalized when the team is bad.

Somehow, magically, the RAC will become louder and a better place with a few hundred students in the front rows, at a price tag of about $2mm/per year, which is what the revenues from the current ticket holders and donors in those spaces generate. Take exception if you want to football using 300 seats as a recruiting tool, but the notion that moving the money people out given our AD's financial woes, all because of a picture of students who didn't get their tickets in advance, and possibly because they weren't going to the games if we weren't good this year, is standard keyboard lunacy.

We are a developing program with the bumps and bruises that go along with success, but these broadsweeping, grandiose and misguided ideas of making drastic changes due to a picture of students on line is jackassery in all its simplistic lunacy.

Where does $2 million a year come from? 500 students times 20 games a year at $75/ticket is $750K. They’d probably just build it into student fees spread across all undergrads, so it would cost each student about $20-25/year extra on their bills to keep the AD neutral.

 

[ColonelRutgers]

It used to be, back in the day, about once a year, Schiano would make a big splash w/ the recruits at a basketball game. They'd show up a few minutes into the game & make a grand entrance, cheerleaders ushered them to the seats (which, honestly, was very creepy) and it created a little buzz. Now, it's like they've run out of ideas of how to recruit players to a non-competitive program and, by default, every home game they're gobbling up the prime seats that students actually want. We may have been asked to join the Big Ten because of the impact of football TV money but football has done nothing but drive their bus into a ditch ever since. Meanwhile, Steve Pikiell and basketball (which actually makes money) have done the unthinkable and built the kind of program that we can all be proud of. So, sorry, I'm not kissing the football program's fanny. Get your s--- together. Come up with some new ideas.

The RAC is loud as hell so a few people sitting on their hands is not a big deal. But Schiano is SCREWING the students. And THAT is the point. There were conceivably 360 students who would've liked to have attended a game and experienced everything that being a student at a Rutgers basketball provides, making fans for life. Instead there are scores of kids being inconvenienced and some being denied, conceivably, the ability to go. Enough.

 

[AreYouNUTS]

Yup. Not hearing it on BTN.

Our home games never sound overly loud on BTN. It’s weird

 

[AreYouNUTS]

Every school in the country turns students away for games. It’s life
Yes, it’s a lot of tickets.
But there’s also a bunch of visitors in the section who probably have never been to college basketball game before.

SO WHAT? I am as big of a football fan as there is, **** I’m literally the only fan of the program who was chosen to be on the Big Ten special about the Louisville game, but I am 100% against this. Those seats ALWAYS should be for the students if they can fill them. If they can’t fill them, fine, then put the recruits at the top of the section. There’s absolutely no need to do this. No other school in the country does it as such.

 

[rupittsburgh]

The st

It used to be, back in the day, about once a year, Schiano would make a big splash w/ the recruits at a basketball game. They'd show up a few minutes into the game & make a grand entrance, cheerleaders ushered them to the seats (which, honestly, was a very creepy) and it created a little buzz. Now, it's like they've run out of ideas of how to recruit players to a non-competitive program and, by default, every home game they're gobbling up the prime seats that students actually want. We may have been asked to join the Big Ten because of the impact of football TV money but football has done nothing but drive their bus into a ditch ever since. Meanwhile, Steve Pikiell and basketball (which actually makes money) have done the unthinkable and built the kind of program that we can all be proud of. So, sorry, I'm not kissing the football program's fanny. Get your s--- together. Come up with some new ideas.

The RAC is loud as hell so a few people sitting on their hands is not a big deal. But Schiano is SCREWING the students. And THAT is the point. There were conceivably 360 students who would've liked to have attended a game and experienced everything that being a student at a Rutgers basketball provides, making fans for life. Instead there are scores of kids being inconvenienced and some being denied, conceivably, the ability to go. Enough.

The students get plenty of tickets, and the athletic department is entitled to get some of the tickets. Enough, stop spending other people's money, if the Athletic department wants to help other sports, AND it isn't just Football that gets those tickets than so be it.

 

[rupittsburgh]

SO WHAT? I am as big of a football fan as there is, **** I’m literally the only fan of the program who was chosen to be on the Big Ten special about the Louisville game, but I am 100% against this. Those seats ALWAYS should be for the students if they can fill them. If they can’t fill them, fine, then put the recruits at the top of the section. There’s absolutely no need to do this. No other school in the country does it as such.

Actually most schools carve out tickets for football and other sports you just don't pay attention. In fact to not do it, would be quite odd.

 

[AreYouNUTS]

Actually most schools carve out tickets for football and other sports you just don't pay attention. In fact to not do it, would be quite odd.

I didn’t say they don’t have seats for recruits. They do. They sure as hell, however, don’t give them the first 20 rows of the student section.

 

[rupittsburgh]

I didn’t say they don’t have seats for recruits. They do. They sure as hell, however, don’t give them the first 20 rows of the student section.

110 isnt the student section, it is reserved for athletics.

 

[rcube1994]

I didn’t say they don’t have seats for recruits. They do. They sure as hell, however, don’t give them the first 20 rows of the student section.

Put them in the middle 1/3rd of the left section so they have to stand, and they will get a much better experience being surrounded by students that are going crazy the whole game.