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liveblue92

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Was gonna start a thread about this topic as it’s similar related ( C Mills ) — on the pre game Sat . Cameron and his buddy were pumping what a tremendous job Cal had done handling Wheeler, and what a great guy Wheeler was for accepting his role , and just lavishing praise on Cal … all damn week I was optimistic, but then I heard these dudes and it was like a slap in the face and I woke up to the reality how badly coached we are , and how capable Cal is screwing up the player rotations and my optimism was like …. Vaporized . May sound dumb but listening to UK guys just praising Cal was offsetting to me .
Guess you know the rest of the story . Cal plays terrible player rotations , we lose . Does UK pay mills ?? He sure is being a hard core company man
I’m with you. Before the Louisville game someone called in and said “how much longer are we gonna let Cal destroy UK basketball”? Dave and Cameron acted like he was insane. “Now Billy Gillespie, that’s a guy who destroyed Kentucky Basketball”. Yet they have very similar records over Cal’s last three seasons. Both with unfathomable losses and zero postseason success. Just so many excuses and justifications for losing. That’s not who we are.
 

JHannibalSmith

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Not a single person saw that run coming.
And, that is problematic, in itself. Yes, it was a very young team. But, the FR on that team were plug & play ready & we were preseason #1 for a reason. That team was loaded with talent & it was a pretty complete roster, too. We had size/length everywhere, elite post scoring, rebounding & rim protection. We had a solid, 6-6 PG, who could run an offense & keep defenses honest on the perimeter. We had ample shooting with Aaron Harrison & James Young.

I’m not saying they should’ve gone wire to wire, in the top 5 all season. But, in NO world should that team have had to worry about seeding & end up scraping by as an 8. But, that’s what happens when you go 1-6 against ranked teams, with a cpl bad losses, entering the tournament. What we saw in that NCAAT should’ve been the standard quo from late December, on. It ended up being a great season bc we got hot at the right time. But, if Harrison doesn’t make one of those late game 3s, 2014 would’ve been an abject failure, right on the heels of the 2013 implosion.
 

fastpaste101

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How many crazy miracle shots did that team make in the tournament?

That run should have ended in the 2nd round.

Then, Louisville somehow allowed us to come back and win, then there was the Michigan and Wisconsin finishes.

That’s a once in a lifetime run, nobody should ever believe that will happen again.
It counts when other teams beat us that way and it counts when we win that way.
 

Rockfly78

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How many crazy miracle shots did that team make in the tournament?

That run should have ended in the 2nd round.

Then, Louisville somehow allowed us to come back and win, then there was the Michigan and Wisconsin finishes.

That’s a once in a lifetime run, nobody should ever believe that will happen again.
Should have ended in the second round…..maybe. But it didn’t. If my aunt had balls she’d be my uncle. But she doesn’t.

That’s my favorite season in the last 10-20 years and we didn’t even win the title. I wouldn’t change one damn thing about it (except the last game).

It’s kids playing ball. Anything can happen and you should expect it to. VCU went from the first 4 to the final 4. Some old lady from Loyola made a run once.
 

Blueworld_3.0

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If you are pinning the hopes of this season on another miracle run like the one in 2014 then, you are indeed grasping at straws. BIG difference in talent levels between the two squads, the '14 team had some alpha's and a lot of luck.
Also, somewhere between then and now, Calipari apparently had his head surgically inserted up his own ***.
 

TankedCat

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The narrative is getting so much better-

There’s light at the end of the tunnel, though, says Barnhart (12/19/22)

“There are growing pains and we’re going through that, nights when the ball is not going in the hole,” he said. “The game against Michigan State, stubbed our toe down the stretch, couldn’t finish that one. The Gonzaga game, just didn’t have a very good night that night. And then the UCLA game, obviously we just really struggled to shoot the ball. We had a lot of open looks, a lot of open looks, and just couldn’t get them to go down. That’s a little unusual for this team, they’re pretty good shooters. You’ve got some folks who can do that."

Not a quote- but I could see this being added now, Missouri- they just caught us off guard, we struggled to defend, S. Carolina, We couldn't stop their three point shooters....they never shoot that good from deep, total anomoly, Alabama? Another fluke, Kansas? Well we could have won that game. Ball just didn't bounce right for us. I have complete confidence that the ball will start bouncing our way. We have the tools, we have all the pieces, just a matter of time.
...I like my team.
 

TankedCat

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If you are pinning the hopes of this season on another miracle run like the one in 2014 then, you are indeed grasping at straws. BIG difference in talent levels between the two squads, the '14 team had some alpha's and a lot of luck.
Also, somewhere between then and now, Calipari apparently had his head surgically inserted up his own ***.
They've been pinning the hopes on a 2014 miracle run for the last 5 seasons

I wish the 2014 team had never happened to be honest because it created the December games don't matter BS that Cal fans spout, along with the Cal has them ready for March

It was as people have said, a miracle run, fun, exciting, but not likely ever repeatable, yet people have been holding on to that - more than that, much worse than that, some of them are completely invested in that being our model for running the program - and its why only now, after way too many horrible losses are they finally coming around that maybe Cal has lost his way.
 
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saxonburgcat

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Was gonna start a thread about this topic as it’s similar related ( C Mills ) — on the pre game Sat . Cameron and his buddy were pumping what a tremendous job Cal had done handling Wheeler, and what a great guy Wheeler was for accepting his role , and just lavishing praise on Cal … all damn week I was optimistic, but then I heard these dudes and it was like a slap in the face and I woke up to the reality how badly coached we are , and how capable Cal is screwing up the player rotations and my optimism was like …. Vaporized . May sound dumb but listening to UK guys just praising Cal was offsetting to me .
Guess you know the rest of the story . Cal plays terrible player rotations , we lose . Does UK pay mills ?? He sure is being a hard core company man

It really isn't any different than when Tubby was on the hot seat and former players went on the radio and defended him. Mills never played for Cal but he wants the best for the program. He will most likely support Cal until he leaves and will support the next coach as well.

As always, I find myself in the middle somewhere. I agree that Cal has failed but I also know that until the boosters act or when Cal decides to leave nothing is going to change so I might as well be as optimistic as I can.
 

BBNWildcat

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It really isn't any different than when Tubby was on the hot seat and former players went on the radio and defended him. Mills never played for Cal but he wants the best for the program. He will most likely support Cal until he leaves and will support the next coach as well.

As always, I find myself in the middle somewhere. I agree that Cal has failed but I also know that until the boosters act or when Cal decides to leave nothing is going to change so I might as well be as optimistic as I can.
If Cameron Mills wants the best for the program he needs to stop gaslighting the fanbase. Cal is NOT what's best for the program. Don't fool yourself.
 
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AGEE11

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Do I think we make a post season run... no.

Can we? yes

Does it happen almost every year? yes

UNC last year, UCLA the year before. The VCU play in team.
 

TankedCat

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It really isn't any different than when Tubby was on the hot seat and former players went on the radio and defended him. Mills never played for Cal but he wants the best for the program. He will most likely support Cal until he leaves and will support the next coach as well.
I just wonder how much, if any, is due to Jeff Sheppards son playing for UK next year.
 

jrm693

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I agree with supporting players and keeping their heads up, it is not their fault that their leadership is not putting them in a position to succeed. I do believe the talent is there to make a run if....CJ and Antonio can start making shots and relieves pressure on Oscar, if Toppin continues to improve all this would clear space for Wheeler to come in and give a different look for a few minutes while they get a breather. The thing I am most disappointed in is that Udo has not been developed how many times have we seen over the years a back up center for another team come in and play crucial minutes in Tourney and play like a veteran, cant see this coming from Udo. In my OPINION Cameron is just trying to keep some positivity going as the support crumbles...most of us are sick of Cals methods, but we have to live with it a little longer.
 

kyjeff1

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Should have ended in the second round…..maybe. But it didn’t. If my aunt had balls she’d be my uncle. But she doesn’t.

That’s my favorite season in the last 10-20 years and we didn’t even win the title. I wouldn’t change one damn thing about it (except the last game).

It’s kids playing ball. Anything can happen and you should expect it to. VCU went from the first 4 to the final 4. Some old lady from Loyola made a run once.
Another one that doesn't understand the point of my post. Sigh…

Again, how many times have you seen a team hit miracle shot after miracle shot in 4 games during a tournament run?

Thinking this team can go on that kind of a run from the 8-11 seed line, is just not realistic.

This isn’t an "if my aunt had balls" thing, the fact that you said that, tells me you didn't understand what was said.
 

Rockfly78

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Another one that doesn't understand the point of my post. Sigh…

Again, how many times have you seen a team hit miracle shot after miracle shot in 4 games during a tournament run?

Thinking this team can go on that kind of a run from the 8-11 seed line, is just not realistic.

This isn’t an "if my aunt had balls" thing, the fact that you said that, tells me you didn't understand what was said.
Do I think this team will go on a run like that? No. Do I think they can? Absolutely. Because anything can happen. That’s my point.
 

kyjeff1

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Do I think this team will go on a run like that? No. Do I think they can? Absolutely. Because anything can happen. That’s my point.
But the point of this thread is to make people understand that depending on that to happen, is not a good plan and it's not something that we should depend on.
 

FinancialPlannerZac

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Why did he tweet about the 2014 team and put pictures of the WCS poster dunk @ Florida during the 38-1 year? Lol
Yeah, I noticed that too. I like Cam and his positivity, but he does tend to get some facts out of sorts at times. I can count at least 4-5 different occasions when I've heard him say St. Peter's was a Sweet 16 team (trying to make a point that we weren't the only one to lose to them). They were actually an Elite Eight team that beat Purdue in the Sweet 16. Not a big deal... but noticeable I suppose.
 
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CHAMPCAT11

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Well he said his brain is getting too fat, therefore impacting his critical thinking abilities. It wasn’t that bad of a comment. Cameron’s Tweet does make one wonder where he is coming from.
Ed’s just a bad poster who knows nothing about basketball. Best to disregard everything he says.
 

TheBlueMist

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The 2022-23 team does not have near the talent as the 2013-2014 team. Different team; different coach. That was a young, hungry team looking for recognition. Our current team seems confused.

As thrilling as the Michigan and Wisconsin finishes were that year, we could have easily lost either.