Statement from Clemson University
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I was literally responding to a post where someone was trying to assert that distasteful reactions only occurred for Kirk and not for the Hortmans which is patently untrue.
The fact that a sitting senator who is now churning out crocodile tears is the (factual) example I used should bother you a hell of a lot more than whatever you tried to make out of my response on a Clemson football board.
Sitting presidents and senators should have a damn high bar for comportment. Some of us were raised with the notion "respect the office" no matter who was in there, so it would be nice if these clowns started earning some of that respect instead of channeling their inner Nancy Mace.
It still baffles me to this day that some people cannot see the difference in engaging in free speech and being free of consequences for said speech.
Sad you’re unable to refrain here.
lol the truth really upsets some of you for some reason.
You’re an intelligent guy, you don’t need me to expound. Have a nice afternoon.
Actually I'm not intelligent enough to read your mind and know what your point is.
But you seem to think you're reading mine.
I never said you were coming unhinged. Please read again to whom I was responding.
Neal Collins is not a huge liberal and is a good man.
Its certainly been noted what politicians are trying to cater to a social media collective rather than effectively do their job and work at getting results the right way.
Its certainly been noted what politicians are trying to cater to a social media collective rather than effectively do their job and work at getting results the right way.
Nope, been living my life like normal. Don’t do twitter or much other social media and didn’t really see anything about the people
Thanks for the response - that’s awful, shouldn’t have taken long to deal with that at all.
The only thing surprising in this post is so many people standing up for Neal Collins.
During Covid.
Listen, I don’t agree with your politics, and that’s completely okay. I was commenting here in regard to you insinuating Clemson staff should’ve been fired after the Jan 6 debacle (debacle differing according to which side of politics a person resides). There is zero room for “but what about then”, in the Charlie Kirk situation.
I think you being a TI employee, creates an off limits area for you and your political opinion, but that’s simply my opinion.
You’ve got every right to say whatever you’d like here, just as reading members do. Not my taste for you to do so, but it’s your right.
Take care
Clemson exists to positively develop young adults. When over half of the population in the state agrees with Kirk, it's not OK for a professor to publicly celebrate his assassination.
If they're OK with Kirk being killed, it's fair to question how they would feel about outspoken right wing students.
And orchestrated along with Mark Spede one of the most terrible halftime shows ever last year
Should’ve been fired based on that
lol aren't you the guy who squelched on a ban bet with someone over something political? methinks you need to take your own advice about being unhinged.
Larry has seemed a little short-fused lately. But I was also unaware he's liberal, which does help explain.
Five years ago is me never hiding my opinions on political matters?
The last time I participated here on political matters was last fall on a local political matter when I called it like I saw it on a crazy left-wing mayoral candidate and her cronies.
And for the record, I'm not insinuating Clemson staff should've been fired after Jan. 6.
I don't particularly like it when left-wing mobs get people fired for stuff they said, and I guess the same is true here in the inverse but I
haven't paid a lot of attention to it.
I'll stay in my lane, haha.
The humor of how wrong you are here, is strong.
Every member of TI is aware of how leftist you are. Nothing more needs said.
Thats kinda harsh
Not everyone has social media, or really wades into politics.
Heck, I didn't know about the comments from the staff until a friend texted me this morning.
I would say most in my social circle don't really do politics. None of them brought it up.
Not as rare as you make it out to be
“This isn’t cancel culture. This is self defense! A nation that empowers the deranged and depraved is a nation marching toward ruin. If you celebrate the assassination of a political opponent, you are unfit for any role of trust. Not with children. Not in healthcare. Not in government. Not anywhere!”
I saw this posted. I didn’t write it but truer words were never spoken.
If there were employees advocating for killing the vp, they should 100% have been/be fired. However, that is a completely different thing than supporting a protest in general.
and if so and put out where everybody could see it, they should have been terminated
You would hope that even though some university employees hold these radical views (and my experience is there are a lot more of them than you think), they should be intelligent enough to not put their vile thoughts on social media. The fact that they did is reason enough to question their intelligence.
Some people need to realize that we are discussing academia, which has a cornerstone of the free exchange of differing ideas and the tenure system which allows for minority opinions.
Employment decisions in academia require proper protocol.
Employment decisions in academia require proper protocol.
Calling January 6th a "protest" is certainly a choice.
We are talking human decency and compassion. And every line was crossed. Cannot be tolerated. Too little, too late from Clemson. I’m disgusted with the way it was handled.
I agree completely but do have an honest question. Does anyone now in Washington have more incendiary comments than President Trump? This stated to me today by a lifelong Republican who has voted for Trump 3 times. It is a fair question.