Not really. We played 39 top-50 games in the regular season that year, including 17 top-25 teams. Of course the post-season helped the SOS, like it does for any team that gets that far. But we played a hell of a tough schedule in the regular season that year.
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Both of you are right.
Think about it like this: let's say the goal is to drop some weight. Engie is saying it's okay to have a brownie since we had a salad for lunch and worked out, and 8 is saying the brownie is bad no matter what.
I tend to agree with 8. Playing them is counter productive to our season goals no matter what.
Notice LSU plays these guys on neutral site games. Maybe instead of redoing DNF we can just build a new stadium beside hwy12. That way we can play Alcorn there and it not be as bad.
Think about it like this: let's say the goal is to drop some weight. Engie is saying it's okay to have a brownie since we had a salad for lunch and worked out, and 8 is saying the brownie is bad no matter what.
I tend to agree with 8. Playing them is counter productive to our season goals no matter what.
Notice LSU plays these guys on neutral site games. Maybe instead of redoing DNF we can just build a new stadium beside hwy12. That way we can play Alcorn there and it not be as bad.
You are seriously sitting here talking flaws in my logic while arguing that SCHEDULING should be done on the basis of how good all these teams are going to be in games that haven't been played yet? Pls
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Only a handful of games are scheduled between seasons. It's not like football where they can be scheduled for 10 years down the road, sure, but most are agreed upon in the 2-3 year range. So if you really want to look at the intended schedule, then look at those seasons.
But then of course, you can't include any SEC teams in that since State has no control, and therefore, no intention.
Uh -- not that this is surprising -- but that is ********. That schedule was top 5 SOS at the end of the regular season and spent the vast majority of conference play at one or two.
How many times in this thread are you going to change the metric by which we are measuring by the way? I've lost count.
34 in the regular season, so right around the average from the previous 4 seasons (32 avg).
The postseason basically pushed MSU from about 17th to 2nd (not a perfect calculation since it assumes ONLY MSU's SOS is changing, but in reality everyone's would change somewhat if postseason was ignored).
I'm not talking about INTENTION of scheduling at all. I'm just stating that you cannot reasonably claim that State's schedule is 5% harder than 2015 Florida.
State's schedule, IF PLAYED IN 2015, would have been harder (though average RPI rank is a terrible metric) than 2015 Florida. But State's 2016 schedule is a different story.
State's schedule, IF PLAYED IN 2015, would have been harder (though average RPI rank is a terrible metric) than 2015 Florida. But State's 2016 schedule is a different story.
Ok -- so in 26 nonconference games on the slate -- we:
3x expected top 25 Oregon
expected top 25 UCLA
expected top 25 USC
expected top 25 Oklahoma
expected top 25 Ole Miss
expected top 50 South Alabama
expected top 50 Oral Roberts
2x expected top 50 FAU
expected top 50 USM
2x expected top 100 Nicholls St
expected top 100 Memphis
expected decent ULM, Troy
17 of 26 against good teams that could very well beat anyone on any given night.
And that's what people are bitching about.
Who claimed that State's 2016 SOS is actually 5% more difficult than 2015 Florida? You are just making this up as you go.
The whole deal was on SCHEDULING.
You. You are saying that the projected 2016 schedule would be 5% tougher than 2015's #1. You've changed to "intended" rather than "projected" now, but your original claim was that State's 2016 projected SOS was 5% tougher than 2015 Florida's. It wasn't by any measure EXCEPT the one (very flawed one) that you chose.
You are close on my position -- but not exact. But it's a nice example when expounded upon.
I'm saying that -- if the goal is to drop weight and to continue to drop as much weight as possible over an extended period of time -- it is absolutely imperative to have that brownie on rare occasions. Not one a day. Maybe not one a week. But a couple of month. Without those occasional cheats -- your body goes into starvation mode and starts protecting fat stores to the greatest extent possible. You may gain a pound from that brownie that day and feel like it was a setback. But if you stay the course, you are going to lose two additional pounds the next week you otherwise would have really struggled to shred and not managed to get off as quickly. That brownie is better for you in the longterm than it was bad for you in the short term. This is EXACTLY my position on scheduling a couple gimme midweek games per year in order to get some guys work and build their confidence.
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How many times can you read "preseason projected" before you understand what it means? You keep leaving off that word PRESEASON in your argument because it precludes your entire position into ridiculousness. Which it actually has been ever since you stepped foot in the thread. Preseason projected and intended are the exact same thing.
But it's not the #1 SOS, so you are wrong engine!11!
No they are not the exact same thing. Preseason projected does not automatically mean "last season's RPI." You can use it if you want, and people can also laugh at you for using it.
Like instead of playing LA Monroe in Biloxi, why not get a more interesting matchup like USM in Biloxi?
I don't care about going to Hattiesburg after the whole Ron Polk fiasco but playing them in Jackson and Biloxi will do. We should continue to punish them for that incident by not playing them in Hattie.
I don't care about going to Hattiesburg after the whole Ron Polk fiasco but playing them in Jackson and Biloxi will do. We should continue to punish them for that incident by not playing them in Hattie.
Like I said,
at the end of the regular season, our SOS will be better than 20, barring the SEC tanking.
ETA: The post-season run in '13 for sure bumped our final SOS up some, like it would have anyone in that position, but it was already top 10 or so prior to, so you are wrong.
at the end of the regular season, our SOS will be better than 20, barring the SEC tanking.
ETA: The post-season run in '13 for sure bumped our final SOS up some, like it would have anyone in that position, but it was already top 10 or so prior to, so you are wrong.
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Where did you see that we had the predicted #1 SOS in the country? This is the only mention of it I've seen.
There is not actual prediction of it.
It's just Engie taking the 2015 RPIs of the 2016 opponents and averaging them and then comparing it to the average for 2015 Florida's opponents. Because apparently RPI doesn't change from one season to the next.
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