Spirit Airlines

[TigerGrowls]

Dems are not smart and should never be trusted to run the economy.



Spirit Airlines died tonight at the hands of the socialist crusader, Elizabeth Warren


She must be so proud to add another casket to her achievements.


Tonight at 3am, Spirit turns off the lights. 14,000 jobs gone. 30+ smaller airports lose service.


JetBlue offered $3.8 BILLION in cash to buy Spirit in 2022. Shareholders, flight attendants union, literally everyone voted yes.


The combined company would have held 9% of the US market against a Big 4 that already owned 80%.


For anyone who understands numbers: 9% isn’t a monopoly against 80%.


Warren said no.


She wrote letters. She pressured Buttigieg. Biden’s DOJ sued. A federal judge killed the deal in January 2024.


Her argument: the merger would cost consumers $1 billion a year.


Now look at her collateral damage she dusts under the rug.


510 pilots gone in the months after. 1,800 flight attendants furloughed in December.


14,000 jobs in 2023. 7,500 last week. Zero tonight.


And that’s just the people in Spirit uniforms.


Catering goes. Fuel guys go. Baggage crews, gate agents, airport coffee shops, hotels and rental cars in 70 cities Spirit flew to. Every airline job carries 3 more on its back.


40,000 people out of work because of one woman’s moronic crusade against the market.


And the math ain’t mathing.


Spirit abandoned 90 routes during the death spiral. Fares on those routes are up 14% on average. Oakland to Newark: $135 to $288. Fort Myers to San Juan: $92 to $219. Kansas City to Newark up 66%.


That’s reality. Not some BS number from a “study.”


So @SenWarren tell me how this saves the consumer money?


Cheap carriers in a market drop fares 21% across the board. Southwest did this in the 90s and saved Americans $68 BILLION over 20 years.


Warren killed it. That’s what moronic politicians led by socialism do.


Then with her own blind arrogance, she tweeted Spirit’s collapse is “a Biden win for flyers.”


A win.


14,000 people are reading termination letters tonight.


And she’s taking credit.


This is socialism in 2026.


A senator who’s never made payroll thinks she knows how to run a market better than the people who own and work in the company.


She saved you a billion on imaginary paper.


She cost you ten times that in real life.


She didn’t protect consumers from anything.


14,000+ will go from working to welfare.


She will make sure to blame billionaires, hardworking tax payers, AI, capitalism and whatever monster they will make up tomorrow hiding under your bed.


Higher taxes. Fewer jobs. More expensive everything.


She called it a win. I hope you enjoy winning.

 

[UrHuckleberry]

Spirit Halloween has the chance to do the funniest thing

 

[fatpiggy]

Spirit Halloween has the chance to do the funniest thing

took me a minute to get it, but that would be funny.

 

[nytigerfan]

Dems are not smart and should never be trusted to run the economy.



Spirit Airlines died tonight at the hands of the socialist crusader, Elizabeth Warren


She must be so proud to add another casket to her achievements.


Tonight at 3am, Spirit turns off the lights. 14,000 jobs gone. 30+ smaller airports lose service.


JetBlue offered $3.8 BILLION in cash to buy Spirit in 2022. Shareholders, flight attendants union, literally everyone voted yes.


The combined company would have held 9% of the US market against a Big 4 that already owned 80%.


For anyone who understands numbers: 9% isn’t a monopoly against 80%.


Warren said no.


She wrote letters. She pressured Buttigieg. Biden’s DOJ sued. A federal judge killed the deal in January 2024.


Her argument: the merger would cost consumers $1 billion a year.


Now look at her collateral damage she dusts under the rug.


510 pilots gone in the months after. 1,800 flight attendants furloughed in December.


14,000 jobs in 2023. 7,500 last week. Zero tonight.


And that’s just the people in Spirit uniforms.


Catering goes. Fuel guys go. Baggage crews, gate agents, airport coffee shops, hotels and rental cars in 70 cities Spirit flew to. Every airline job carries 3 more on its back.


40,000 people out of work because of one woman’s moronic crusade against the market.


And the math ain’t mathing.


Spirit abandoned 90 routes during the death spiral. Fares on those routes are up 14% on average. Oakland to Newark: $135 to $288. Fort Myers to San Juan: $92 to $219. Kansas City to Newark up 66%.


That’s reality. Not some BS number from a “study.”


So @SenWarren tell me how this saves the consumer money?


Cheap carriers in a market drop fares 21% across the board. Southwest did this in the 90s and saved Americans $68 BILLION over 20 years.


Warren killed it. That’s what moronic politicians led by socialism do.


Then with her own blind arrogance, she tweeted Spirit’s collapse is “a Biden win for flyers.”


A win.


14,000 people are reading termination letters tonight.


And she’s taking credit.


This is socialism in 2026.


A senator who’s never made payroll thinks she knows how to run a market better than the people who own and work in the company.


She saved you a billion on imaginary paper.


She cost you ten times that in real life.


She didn’t protect consumers from anything.


14,000+ will go from working to welfare.


She will make sure to blame billionaires, hardworking tax payers, AI, capitalism and whatever monster they will make up tomorrow hiding under your bed.


Higher taxes. Fewer jobs. More expensive everything.


She called it a win. I hope you enjoy winning.

Trumps economy is killing American business. Sad!

 

[dpic73]

Dems are not smart and should never be trusted to run the economy.



Spirit Airlines died tonight at the hands of the socialist crusader, Elizabeth Warren


She must be so proud to add another casket to her achievements.


Tonight at 3am, Spirit turns off the lights. 14,000 jobs gone. 30+ smaller airports lose service.


JetBlue offered $3.8 BILLION in cash to buy Spirit in 2022. Shareholders, flight attendants union, literally everyone voted yes.


The combined company would have held 9% of the US market against a Big 4 that already owned 80%.


For anyone who understands numbers: 9% isn’t a monopoly against 80%.


Warren said no.


She wrote letters. She pressured Buttigieg. Biden’s DOJ sued. A federal judge killed the deal in January 2024.


Her argument: the merger would cost consumers $1 billion a year.


Now look at her collateral damage she dusts under the rug.


510 pilots gone in the months after. 1,800 flight attendants furloughed in December.


14,000 jobs in 2023. 7,500 last week. Zero tonight.


And that’s just the people in Spirit uniforms.


Catering goes. Fuel guys go. Baggage crews, gate agents, airport coffee shops, hotels and rental cars in 70 cities Spirit flew to. Every airline job carries 3 more on its back.


40,000 people out of work because of one woman’s moronic crusade against the market.


And the math ain’t mathing.


Spirit abandoned 90 routes during the death spiral. Fares on those routes are up 14% on average. Oakland to Newark: $135 to $288. Fort Myers to San Juan: $92 to $219. Kansas City to Newark up 66%.


That’s reality. Not some BS number from a “study.”


So @SenWarren tell me how this saves the consumer money?


Cheap carriers in a market drop fares 21% across the board. Southwest did this in the 90s and saved Americans $68 BILLION over 20 years.


Warren killed it. That’s what moronic politicians led by socialism do.


Then with her own blind arrogance, she tweeted Spirit’s collapse is “a Biden win for flyers.”


A win.


14,000 people are reading termination letters tonight.


And she’s taking credit.


This is socialism in 2026.


A senator who’s never made payroll thinks she knows how to run a market better than the people who own and work in the company.


She saved you a billion on imaginary paper.


She cost you ten times that in real life.


She didn’t protect consumers from anything.


14,000+ will go from working to welfare.


She will make sure to blame billionaires, hardworking tax payers, AI, capitalism and whatever monster they will make up tomorrow hiding under your bed.


Higher taxes. Fewer jobs. More expensive everything.


She called it a win. I hope you enjoy winning.

 

[dpic73]

This administration refuses to take responsibility for any of their actions. Spirit specifically cited why they couldn’t stay in business: skyrocketing fuel costs due to Trump’s war. And the Trump admin is still trying to blame Biden for everything. Biden?! You could maybe get away with that if it were February 2025, but it’s May 2026. Trump was the “I’ll make everything cheaper on day 1” guy. The “no new wars” guy. Own your actions.

 

[ClemsonInAtlanta]

Dems are not smart and should never be trusted to run the economy.



Spirit Airlines died tonight at the hands of the socialist crusader, Elizabeth Warren


She must be so proud to add another casket to her achievements.


Tonight at 3am, Spirit turns off the lights. 14,000 jobs gone. 30+ smaller airports lose service.


JetBlue offered $3.8 BILLION in cash to buy Spirit in 2022. Shareholders, flight attendants union, literally everyone voted yes.


The combined company would have held 9% of the US market against a Big 4 that already owned 80%.


For anyone who understands numbers: 9% isn’t a monopoly against 80%.


Warren said no.


She wrote letters. She pressured Buttigieg. Biden’s DOJ sued. A federal judge killed the deal in January 2024.


Her argument: the merger would cost consumers $1 billion a year.


Now look at her collateral damage she dusts under the rug.


510 pilots gone in the months after. 1,800 flight attendants furloughed in December.


14,000 jobs in 2023. 7,500 last week. Zero tonight.


And that’s just the people in Spirit uniforms.


Catering goes. Fuel guys go. Baggage crews, gate agents, airport coffee shops, hotels and rental cars in 70 cities Spirit flew to. Every airline job carries 3 more on its back.


40,000 people out of work because of one woman’s moronic crusade against the market.


And the math ain’t mathing.


Spirit abandoned 90 routes during the death spiral. Fares on those routes are up 14% on average. Oakland to Newark: $135 to $288. Fort Myers to San Juan: $92 to $219. Kansas City to Newark up 66%.


That’s reality. Not some BS number from a “study.”


So @SenWarren tell me how this saves the consumer money?


Cheap carriers in a market drop fares 21% across the board. Southwest did this in the 90s and saved Americans $68 BILLION over 20 years.


Warren killed it. That’s what moronic politicians led by socialism do.


Then with her own blind arrogance, she tweeted Spirit’s collapse is “a Biden win for flyers.”


A win.


14,000 people are reading termination letters tonight.


And she’s taking credit.


This is socialism in 2026.


A senator who’s never made payroll thinks she knows how to run a market better than the people who own and work in the company.


She saved you a billion on imaginary paper.


She cost you ten times that in real life.


She didn’t protect consumers from anything.


14,000+ will go from working to welfare.


She will make sure to blame billionaires, hardworking tax payers, AI, capitalism and whatever monster they will make up tomorrow hiding under your bed.


Higher taxes. Fewer jobs. More expensive everything.


She called it a win. I hope you enjoy winning.

Spirit airlines has explicitly said that skyrocketing fuel prices as a consequence of the Trump War on Iran were the cause of their demise.

Republicans destroy America. Water is wet.

Trump destroys everything he touches. He is an abject failure and his supporters are simply useful idiots

 

[baltimorened]

Trumps economy is killing American business. Sad!

I don't want to be contrarian, but as I watch earning reports, it sure looks like American businesses are doing quite well. Of course there will always be winners and losers, but in general, business is not being "killed"

I'm not defending Trump's war or high fuel costs, just to be clear

 

[Hotshoe]

Spirit filed for bankruptcy in Nov of 24. They had issues for years. Nothing was saving them but the deal with Jet Blue.

 

[dpic73]

Spirit filed for bankruptcy in Nov of 24. They had issues for years. Nothing was saving them but the deal with Jet Blue.

Ill take the CEO's word for it.

 

[PAWrocka]

Spirit airlines has explicitly said that skyrocketing fuel prices as a consequence of the Trump War on Iran were the cause of their demise.

Republicans destroy America. Water is wet.

Trump destroys everything he touches. He is an abject failure and his supporters are simply useful idiots

No they didn’t and no it wasn’t … Iran had absolutely zero to do with Spirit’s demise.

they were doomed from their very start. You can’t offer coast to coast flights for the cost of 17 raspberries and expect to stay in business.

their only hope is…. no I’m sorry, their employees only hope was to allow JetBlue to purchase/merge with them.

< —— 25 years in commercial aviation. Very familiar with Spirit airlines ….. they were awful to do business with.

 

[1Clemson]

took me a minute to get it, but that would be funny.

I believe the reason for Spirit's inability to successfully navigate bankruptcy was higher jet fuel costs. Lets give a cheer to the man who made it possible- Dear Leader.

 

[1Clemson]

Shocked that I am in agreement with Ann Coulter.

 

[1Clemson]

Spirit filed for bankruptcy in Nov of 24. They had issues for years. Nothing was saving them but the deal with Jet Blue.

They have been a bad business since before COVID. Sometimes it just takes a few straws to break them. In this case, fuel prices.

 

[PAWrocka]

They have been a bad business since before COVID. Sometimes it just takes a few straws to break them. In this case, fuel prices.

Wrong

but if it helps you sleep at night, you do you.

 

[dbjork6317]

Spirit went out of business because they provided terrible customer experience and unreliable flights. Customers would actively pay more to other carriers to avoid spirit due to their reputation for poor experience. You can’t be priced like Ryanair if you’re not going to be as efficient and reliable as Ryanair is.

If they had provided a better service, they could have increased prices enough to remain in business. As it were, the only people flying with spirit were those who had no other option due to price.

Treat your customers better and you’ll have more options as a business when things get tight.

 

[1Clemson]

Wrong

but if it helps you sleep at night, you do you.

which part?

Discount airlines operate on small margins. Spirit tried fare adders for stupid level 'upgrades' that weren't well received. They have been reducing routes, eventually that leads to revenue losses. In and out of bankruptcy since 2019.
They were going under before Iran. CEO said fuel prices were just the last straw....

But if you know more than the court filings or the CEO does, please educate us with the facts.

 

[MTTiger19]

 

[MTTiger19]

 

[PAWrocka]

which part?

Discount airlines operate on small margins. Spirit tried fare adders for stupid level 'upgrades' that weren't well received. They have been reducing routes, eventually that leads to revenue losses. In and out of bankruptcy since 2019.
They were going under before Iran. CEO said fuel prices were just the last straw....

But if you know more than the court filings or the CEO does, please educate us with the facts.

and it was the last ounce of water that caused the titanic to sink.

I know what I know after spending a quarter of a century in the industry. Spirit has always been ****, and only thing that would’ve saved Spirit, was if they were bought out. When the Biden Admin blocked it, they were cooked.

 

[1Clemson]

and it was the last ounce of water that caused the titanic to sink.

I know what I know after spending a quarter of a century in the industry. Spirit has always been ****, and only thing that would’ve saved Spirit, was if they were bought out. When the Biden Admin blocked it, they were cooked.

First I am simply an economist/ market capitalist.

Spirit had been losing money long before Biden.

1. So the only way to save it was to close it? It is now closed and the valuable assets can be acquired by other airlines, the rest was not valuable. This is market efficiency.
2. Any bailout is not market based but socialist. Bad business should not be bailed out unless a direct impact on national security or public health can be demonstrated.
3. The courts prevented the merger. The judge that made the ruling was a republican. Doesn't matter what Biden or Trump or you or me wanted.
4. It was struggling, fuel prices were the last straw. If not fuel prices it would have been something else in 6 months.

 

[fatpiggy]

I believe the reason for Spirit's inability to successfully navigate bankruptcy was higher jet fuel costs. Lets give a cheer to the man who made it possible- Dear Leader.

Airlines run fuel hedging programs. If they didn’t have their fuel prices hedged then that is bad management. How many other carriers went out of business due to fuel costs?

You are going to have to bring some evidence for that claim that doesn’t pass the smell test imo.

Unless some other carriers also go out of business due to fuel costs, you can chalk that up to poor management. There are ample tools to hedge fuel costs and almost all airlines practice it. Maybe Spirit should have managed better like the rest of the airlines that didn’t go out of business.


I’m glad they went out of business. As the poster above stated, it wasn’t a good enough business model and they should fail. (No opinion on whether they should have been acquired by jet blue. It’s not like jet blue wouldn’t have cut jobs when they merged etc.)

Spoiler

**Yes, many airlines hedge their fuel costs**, but it’s not universal—practices vary by region, airline strategy, and market conditions. Fuel is typically the second-largest operating expense (after labor), often 20-30% of costs, and jet fuel prices are highly volatile due to oil market swings, geopolitics, and refining margins. Hedging aims to reduce that risk.<grok:render card_id=“d87fae” card_type=“citation_card” type=“render_inline_citation”><argument name="citation_id">24</argument></grok:render>

### How Fuel Hedging Works

Airlines use financial derivatives to lock in or cap prices for future fuel purchases without physically buying and storing jet fuel. Common tools include:

- **Swaps**: Agree to pay a fixed price and receive the floating market price (or vice versa), effectively locking in costs.
- **Options/Collars**: Buy calls for upside protection (cap on high prices) while sometimes selling puts to offset premiums (creating a “floor” price). “Costless collars” are popular as premiums can cancel out.
- **Futures/Forwards**: Contracts for delivery at a set price later.

Airlines typically hedge only a portion of needs (e.g., 50-90% for near-term months) on a rolling basis, not 100%, to balance protection with flexibility.<grok:render card_id=“b92746” card_type=“citation_card” type=“render_inline_citation”><argument name="citation_id">0</argument></grok:render>

**Example**: If an airline buys a swap at $3/gallon and spot prices rise to $4, the hedge pays the difference, offsetting higher refueling costs. If prices fall to $2, the airline pays the difference on the hedge but benefits less from cheap spot fuel.<grok:render card_id=“28f096” card_type=“citation_card” type=“render_inline_citation”><argument name="citation_id">39</argument></grok:render>

### Historical Successes and Why Airlines Do It

- **Southwest Airlines** was famous for aggressive hedging, saving ~$3.5-4 billion from 1998-2008 by locking in low prices during spikes. It helped them stay profitable when others struggled.<grok:render card_id=“5b18dc” card_type=“citation_card” type=“render_inline_citation”><argument name="citation_id">24</argument></grok:render>
- It stabilizes cash flow, protects margins, and can support lower or more predictable fares—acting like insurance against spikes.

### Current Practices (as of 2025-2026)

- **U.S. major airlines** have largely **stopped traditional financial hedging**. None of the big ones (American, United, Delta, and now Southwest as of 2025) maintain active programs. Reasons: High transaction/premium costs, accounting complexity, losses when prices fell, and a preference for passing costs via fares or operational adjustments. Delta uses its Monroe Energy refinery as a partial “natural hedge.”<grok:render card_id=“1e2feb” card_type=“citation_card” type=“render_inline_citation”><argument name="citation_id">22</argument></grok:render>
- **European and Asian carriers** are more active. Examples: Ryanair, easyJet, Air France-KLM, Lufthansa, and others often hedge 50-90% of near-term needs. They maintain programs for predictability in competitive markets.<grok:render card_id=“0c2c36” card_type=“citation_card” type=“render_inline_citation”><argument name="citation_id">8</argument></grok:render>

In 2026, with oil price surges (e.g., from Middle East conflicts), unhedged U.S. carriers faced more direct exposure and potential margin hits, while hedged international ones had partial buffers (though not always full protection due to basis risk between crude and jet fuel).<grok:render card_id=“121cf4” card_type=“citation_card” type=“render_inline_citation”><argument name="citation_id">20</argument></grok:render>

### Pros, Cons, and Trade-offs

|Aspect |Pros |Cons |
|------------------|------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------------------|
|**Cost Stability**|Protects against spikes; aids planning and fares|Can lock in higher costs if prices fall; opportunity cost |
|**Profit Impact** |Reduces volatility; big wins in crises |Premiums/fees add expense; not always net profitable long-term|
|**Risks** |Insurance-like |Losses on hedges, collateral calls, complexity |

Research shows hedging cuts earnings volatility but doesn’t reliably boost overall profits after costs.<grok:render card_id=“f34818” card_type=“citation_card” type=“render_inline_citation”><argument name="citation_id">29</argument></grok:render>

**Bottom line**: Hedging is a tool some airlines use (especially outside the U.S.) for risk management, but many now rely on strong demand, fare adjustments, efficiency gains, or other strategies instead. It’s not foolproof and depends on timing and execution—bad hedges have caused big losses in the past. In volatile times, it can make a real difference for protected carriers.

 

[baltimorened]

which part?

Discount airlines operate on small margins. Spirit tried fare adders for stupid level 'upgrades' that weren't well received. They have been reducing routes, eventually that leads to revenue losses. In and out of bankruptcy since 2019.
They were going under before Iran. CEO said fuel prices were just the last straw....

But if you know more than the court filings or the CEO does, please educate us with the facts.

well, I don't profess to know more than the CEO, but I do know, that so far no other airline has gone under because of fuel prices, and I assume spirit was paying as much for jet fuel as everybody else. Next, it seems as if spirit was not raising their cost per flight to consumers sufficiently to cover their costs as some of the other airlines have been doing.

So I don't profess to know as much as some of you seem to about the internal finances of spirit. But, from my experience, in most instances when a company goes under, CEOs are somewhat reluctant to say "It's my fault, I made bad decisions". It's normal to put the cause for failure on someone/somewhere else. Not saying that's the case here, and for sure, the fuel costs add a significant expense to operating costs, but why didn't they hedge, increase prices, have sufficient lines of credit/cash reserves, reduce low return routes, merge with Jet Blue etc.

 

[Hotshoe]

Ill take the CEO's word for it.

Of course you would take the words of a failed CEO. What else is new. It's why you're a Socialist.

Spirit Airlines had struggled financially for well over a decade. Their business model was a disaster for years and they failed to change until it was too late. They also had serious maintenance issues over the years. Fuel did not bring down Spirit Airlines, that's nothing but an excuse. Everyone knew they need to be absorbed, and only Mayor Pete and Biden didn't think so. If Jet Blue buys them out, they still have most of their employees working. Competition, more than anything, put them out of business, and the writing has been on the wall since before Covid.

 

[MTTiger19]

 

[1Clemson]

well, I don't profess to know more than the CEO, but I do know, that so far no other airline has gone under because of fuel prices, and I assume spirit was paying as much for jet fuel as everybody else. Next, it seems as if spirit was not raising their cost per flight to consumers sufficiently to cover their costs as some of the other airlines have been doing.

So I don't profess to know as much as some of you seem to about the internal finances of spirit. But, from my experience, in most instances when a company goes under, CEOs are somewhat reluctant to say "It's my fault, I made bad decisions". It's normal to put the cause for failure on someone/somewhere else. Not saying that's the case here, and for sure, the fuel costs add a significant expense to operating costs, but why didn't they hedge, increase prices, have sufficient lines of credit/cash reserves, reduce low return routes, merge with Jet Blue etc.

Ergo, the last straw. A bad business was susceptible/exposed to a change in one of its largest expenses without adequate reserves (due to ongoing lack of profitability). Higher fuel costs were the last straw.

 

[1Clemson]

Of course you would take the words of a failed CEO. What else is new. It's why you're a Socialist.

Spirit Airlines had struggled financially for well over a decade. Their business model was a disaster for years and they failed to change until it was too late. They also had serious maintenance issues over the years. Fuel did not bring down Spirit Airlines, that's nothing but an excuse. Everyone knew they need to be absorbed, and only Mayor Pete and Biden didn't think so. If Jet Blue buys them out, they still have most of their employees working. Competition, more than anything, put them out of business, and the writing has been on the wall since before Covid.

If the market wants their previous contributions other airlines will add the routes (and some of their employees) after acquiring any valuable assets at market value. If the consumer/market doesn't value their previous contributions then that is proof positive that it was simply a bad business--- and needed to be culled unless someone wanted to pay to provide the service at a loss.

 

[baltimorened]

yea, it's difficult to see how the merger of spirit and jet blue would have been worse for competition than a defunct, out of business spirit.

If Ms Warren is concerned about competition, maybe she should start an airline. She seems to have a great business acumen

 

[baltimorened]

If the market wants their previous contributions other airlines will add the routes (and some of their employees) after acquiring any valuable assets at market value. If the consumer/market doesn't value their previous contributions then that is proof positive that it was simply a bad business--- and needed to be culled unless someone wanted to pay to provide the service at a loss.

I guess part of the point is that if it was a bad business, then it really wouldn't have been a deletion of completion with a merger with Jet Blue. Now with it's demise there actually has been a deletion, even if it had been a bad business - it was flying passengers at a low cost.

 

[MTTiger19]

Spirit was a terrible company. That’s why they’re bankrupt.

 

[dbjork6317]

Yeah this is why they’re out of business. They’ve been declining for years because anyone who could afford a different airline did. If they increased fares they’d price themselves out of the only customers willing to fly them.

Biden, Trump, JetBlue, Iran - whatever. Spirit sucked and that’s why they’re gone.

 

[1Clemson]

I guess part of the point is that if it was a bad business, then it really wouldn't have been a deletion of completion with a merger with Jet Blue. Now with it's demise there actually has been a deletion, even if it had been a bad business - it was flying passengers at a low cost.

At below cost of service …. That’s not the formula for an ongoing business.

i would imagine that if a merger with JetBlue would have occurred, many of the routes would have been eliminated as they were duplicative. They likely just wanted the Spirit gates. The extra employees were going to be laid off and plane leases voided— same end result. JetBlue was never going to keep all of Spirit.

 

[MTTiger19]

Yeah this is why they’re out of business. They’ve been declining for years because anyone who could afford a different airline did. If they increased fares they’d price themselves out of the only customers willing to fly them.

Biden, Trump, JetBlue, Iran - whatever. Spirit sucked and that’s why they’re gone.

Basically. Watch how the treat their customers lol. Won’t take long to go out if business if that’s the accepted company culture.

 

[nytigerfan]

yea, it's difficult to see how the merger of spirit and jet blue would have been worse for competition than a defunct, out of business spirit.

If Ms Warren is concerned about competition, maybe she should start an airline. She seems to have a great business acumen

Spirit airlines survived the Biden administration. They could not survive the Trump administration. Facts. I know this probably hits you hard that you fly spirit all the time.

 

[dpic73]

Of course you would take the words of a failed CEO. What else is new. It's why you're a Socialist.

Spirit Airlines had struggled financially for well over a decade. Their business model was a disaster for years and they failed to change until it was too late. They also had serious maintenance issues over the years. Fuel did not bring down Spirit Airlines, that's nothing but an excuse. Everyone knew they need to be absorbed, and only Mayor Pete and Biden didn't think so. If Jet Blue buys them out, they still have most of their employees working. Competition, more than anything, put them out of business, and the writing has been on the wall since before Covid.

WTF is wrong with you dude, seriously? I'm not a socialist so why do you keep repeating that non-sensical talking point?

JetBlue hasn't turned a profit in seven years and carries 8 billion dollars in debt and most analysts believe if the merger had gone through, it would have been catastrophic and both airlines would have liquidated. So even though the Biden DOJ shares some responsibility, Spirit's board was also against the merger and it was a Reagan-appointed judge who blocked the merger, not the executive branch or Elizabeth Warren.

 

[dpic73]

 

[baltimorened]

Spirit airlines survived the Biden administration. They could not survive the Trump administration. Facts. I know this probably hits you hard that you fly spirit all the time.

in fact, never flew spirit. Their customer service or lack thereof is not in my personal database. As I understand it, their business model was based on low cost...but that low cost HS to cover expenses or ultimately you go out of business.

Another fact, I was in international business, flew all the time - mostly international, although I had hundreds of thousands of domestic miles as well.

There is seldom just one reason why a business fails. Some critics will blame business model, others the CEO,and his policies, others the government policies, and others might even blame the customers. I'd wager that Spirit's case is not significantly different than most

 

[scotchtiger]

So painful to read this board these days. Spirit was a ****** business. Elizabeth Warren is a moron. Fuel prices certainly didn’t help things. Hopefully a better run airline picks up distressed assets and expands coverage. I’ve flown Breeze a few times due to convenient directs to Charleston and it seems fine. That’s coming from delta diamond medallion.

 

[other1]

No they didn’t and no it wasn’t … Iran had absolutely zero to do with Spirit’s demise.

they were doomed from their very start. You can’t offer coast to coast flights for the cost of 17 raspberries and expect to stay in business.

their only hope is…. no I’m sorry, their employees only hope was to allow JetBlue to purchase/merge with them.

< —— 25 years in commercial aviation. Very familiar with Spirit airlines ….. they were awful to do business with.

Spirit Airlines says it’s going out of business, ending operations immediately

Spirit Airlines announced it is going out of business after 34 years.

www.wcvb.com

 

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Spirit Airlines says it’s going out of business, ending operations immediately

Spirit Airlines announced it is going out of business after 34 years.

www.wcvb.com

:/

Fuel could’ve been free and they still would’ve gone under.

horribly ran airline with a terrible business model. Of COURSE they are going to blame EVERYTHING except for their mismanagement and yall are just lapping up the BS

… recycled failed CEOs, jumping from business to business collecting platinum parachutes is one of my favorite things to hate.