Sorsby ruling
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100%. It’s the unforgivable sin and everyone in sports knows it.
I think this kid has major problems when he gets to the NFL.
I truly am happy to see the anger and chaos this has caused. College football needs to be partially torn down before it’s rebuilt into something more ethical and sustainable. Cody Campbell’s response to Georgia instructing their athletics to not schedule Texas Tech is something else.
So now I guess a pro athlete can bet on his own team maybe to win or lose and it's is Ok at least for this Judge - now you will never know if a game is rigged or not. Stupid ruling by a homer judge - it will be overturned on appeal but when will that happen? - probable after the season and playoffs.
In hindsight, it makes me think about how crazy it is that a judge is often an elected position. I'm sure this decision will play well with his electorate when he's up again, regardless of it's a proper ruling.
In some ways, the Sorsby case reminds me of an incident we had last year down here in South Jersey...a 12 year old kid from Haddonfield hit a home run in a little league Sectional game to help send his team to the state tournament. In doing so, he threw his bat in the air, and the umpire ejected him for the bat flip (a guy I work with some that's a very good umpire and is very "by the book"...the kid launched his bat and the ejection was probably the right call). As with any Little League ejection, the kid was also suspended for the following game, which happened to be the first game of the state tournament.
The kid's parents and Haddonfield went to court to get an injunction overturning the suspension and allowing him to play along these same lines..."irreputable harm" if he's forced to miss a State tournament game. So the opponent was forced to play against a kid that should have been suspended. I was shocked that the courts got involved, but you find a favorable judge and suddenly the court can overrule the umpire's decision.
Both are incidents where I don't understand how a judge can rule against the organization that's very fairly sticking to their rules. It all sends us down a very slippery slope in sports.
The kid's parents and Haddonfield went to court to get an injunction overturning the suspension and allowing him to play along these same lines..."irreputable harm" if he's forced to miss a State tournament game. So the opponent was forced to play against a kid that should have been suspended. I was shocked that the courts got involved, but you find a favorable judge and suddenly the court can overrule the umpire's decision.
Both are incidents where I don't understand how a judge can rule against the organization that's very fairly sticking to their rules. It all sends us down a very slippery slope in sports.
The slippery slope has always been there. There is always a line, always has been. If your 12-year-old had given the opposing players two middle fingers in their faces as he went around the bases, he would have missed the championship game and no one would have put up any sort of beef. There’s a line, and you got to draw it. Sorsby gambling of his team of record, that’s two middle fingers in the face of the integrity of the game, from my point of view.
Dang. Well that’s that, unless NCAA can get an emergency hearing, I’m not a lawyer. Modern times, I suppose. No point in my continuing this discussion. I hope Texas Tech loses every game they play.
Big 12 discussing options as Sorsby trial gets February date
The trial for Texas Tech QB Brendan Sorsby vs. the NCAA has been set to start two weeks after the CFP National Championship is scheduled to be played.
www.espn.com
If following the rules of a voluntary activity might cause you or your kid "irreputable harm", then perhaps that voluntary activity is not the one for you.
You, I, and Common Sense agree...but they found a judge in Gloucester County that saw things differently.
Their argument was based on the fact that the kid had flipped his bat other times and wasn't suspended...and that Little League had videos on their website of kids flipping bats so they promoted it. It was ridiculous. I was happy that Little League came out with a strong statement after they lost sticking by the umpire and their rules.
Let’s say TTU wins the MNC and then the appeal goes against Sorsby. Would TTU have to vacate the season and title? I’d think so.
Is that a risk TTU wants to take? They seem pretty dug in right now.
I'm sure it is. It's not like they erase the memories from everyone's minds.
Yeah they take it...just like Michigan
No penalty truly takes away what you witnessed
Risk?
Win a MNC, and then a year later - after winning all those games in front of joyful sold-out crowds (spending lots and lots of $$) - have to "vacate" it in some form of clerical maneuver?
There is not a single major program in the nation (including PSU and PSU fandom) that wouldn't - happily - take that deal today if it were laid out in front of them. Obviously.
Of course, the odds of TTU winning a MNC - with or without Sorsby - are tiny (which is also, of course, why they would happily take that deal)
What Sorsby has done is probably not even close to what Michigan did with Stallion and they then kept their championship.
NCAA was able to sanction PSU because the whole thing was developed and delivered by the 11.9/11 home grown corrupt PSU BOT…
We killed the NCAA which is why nothing happened