So, why did Tre Singleton leave?
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$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$?
From what I remember hearing, the money was not that much different but he had a lot of people talking into his ear pushing him to leave
After watching that scrimmage yesterday..... those people in his ear were right, unfortunately.
I'm sure it was a combination of things and we'll likely never know (the full story). The short answer to me is twofold, one is obviously money. Two is what are the chances of success on the team offering the money - to go to the dance this year and next year, to get NBA interest, to on a team of top players rather than the top player on a team, etc.
When 1 is in the same general range, 2 will matter more.
When 1 is in the same general range, 2 will matter more.
I wonder if the timing was right though. He was out there, being solid, but not standing out as they are talented and deep.
Had he stayed he would play more, score more, develop more in some aspects of his game. Assuming making the same money he could be more ready to stand out in a more visible place.
He should have had the foresight to get his NU degree and leave whatever extra $$$ ISU offered him on the table. Best case scenario is he's pumping NU players' gas in a few years with that paltry degree he's now working towards
It seems to me that players can be divided into two categories, contextually, as I mentioned above - do you want to be on a team of top players or do you want to be the top player on a team? I'm projecting based on my prior NU fan experience and believe Tre wanted the former. We've seen it before with Miller Kopp, Pete Nance, and Robbie Beran in recent years (surely different talent/ability levels, but conceptually similar). Some players just don't want or can't handle being The Guy every game, and I expect Tre was projected to be The Guy this year along with West. I'll bet he, and/or his whisperers, knew that as well and opted for a less demanding role on a better team.
I really hate degree arrogance. He has three more years of CBB after this year if he wants it, and if he makes a couple million and doesnt waste it, he's not going to be pumping gas. And if he is a serious student, he can get a good education there in a number of programs.
Icr which was the first domino to fall last year, but if you were 19 and watched the roster collapse, and you could go to a top 40 program for same $, wouldn't you?
If you got outbid by Iowa State, a notoriously “financially bare” athletic department, for your best player so he could go be a role player there, then you didn’t make a competitive offer.
No. The degree is a minor factor for high major players.
The media suggests they spend about $27 million on their football team and $12 million on their basketball team. How does that stack up to NU's salaries?
Was Iowa State's offer competitive if you factor in the value of going to the big dance every year and an opportunity to join other Cyclones currently starting in the NBA?
Approximately the same ballpark, according to published estimates. I think NU is reportedly a little lower on each.
But ISU is notoriously cheap on NIL and athletic department budget in general. Apparently Hoiberg was fed up with them nickel and diming him, when he decided to go to the NBA. Coach Otz is underpaid relative to his peers. Matt Campbell reportedly became exasperated with his NIL budget at ISU.
My point is, losing Tre to ISU stinks because they’re not Kentucky. They don’t have the kind of money you can’t compete against. Especially to retain your best player. The guy you needed to build around to have a shot at being competitive. Losing him over, say, a $200K difference is classic penny wise pound foolish thinking. We should’ve paid whatever it took.
I agree with your financial analysis - I would have paid, particularly given what we've now learned the alternative available buys were. But I also think his ceiling was to be a good player on a tournament team, but not its best player. So for that investment to amount to anything meaningful, we also had to keep our PG and find at least one other guy better than him - someone as good as Mart or Bannhizer.
The crazy thing is ISU has done as well as or better than Kentucky in four of the last five tourneys, including 2026 when they knocked Kentucky out by 20 points. But yeah, they don't spend Kentucky money on players. I'm just thinking that if the money was close and the kid believes he has an NBA future, ISU seems like a team that will have better results in the next few years, play more often on the national stage, and draw the right kind of attention to him. Especially as he saw what happened at NU and the post-season team.
I know this is the world now, but I just shake my head that a $200K difference (not even total.. just the difference) is considered penny wise for a so-so college basketball player. Most college-educated people maybe, if they are in the right fields, make it to $200K per year as their annual salary after working their whole careers to get to that point. And those people would be considered pretty well-off in the wealthiest country in the world. It's insane that this is the market now. It really is a dumb way of doing things.
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