So who will be leaving?

BleedRed78

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I feel like one or both Smothers or Purdy are fated to go. HH might stick around and either be the archetype developmental QB that only really ever spells the starter during his career, or across a position change while here since the coaches love his athleticism so much.

Probably at least one back will go as well as maybe a receiver or two. Don't see any linemen or tes leaving.

Hard to tell on defense... It seems we'll be playing lots of dudes at depth often, so why would any leave? Though it wouldn't surprise me to see an older guy or two leave who might feel passed over whether due to their performance in the past or injury (Henrich comes to mind).
 

Man Woman & Child

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HH might stick around and either be the archetype developmental QB that only really ever spells the starter during his career, or across a position change while here since the coaches love his athleticism so much.
Needs to be a tight end from what I saw. I mean, assuming he can learn to catch better than he's learned to throw.
 

Redmich

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We have to get below 85 if we want to be active in the portal prior to fall camp
 

Scat_Back

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Javier Morton, Jalil Martin, Pola-gates. Lots of secondary players IMO that could go, just too many guys and they brought more in over the winter. Similar to the WR position: Shawn Hardy, Victor Jones possibly. Smothers, Purdy.
 

VAHusker

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I don’t think we should list names but you could do it by position groups. The number leaving probably close to below.

QB-2
RB-1-2
WR-3-4
TE-0 Position moves already in place
OL- 0
DL-0
Edge-1
LB-2-3
DB-4-5
 

BleedRed78

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Javier Morton, Jalil Martin, Pola-gates. Lots of secondary players IMO that could go, just too many guys and they brought more in over the winter. Similar to the WR position: Shawn Hardy, Victor Jones possibly. Smothers, Purdy.
Morton and Martin had some moments though vs other guys we pencil in. NPG is a high possiblity unless of course like many wonder about smothers (content on riding the scholarship here even though they'll never start).
 

c3o

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I liked HH more than Purdy or Torres

He had some balls batted down and also took a bad sack but he could be nasty in QB run game and we never really got to see him throw. No idea who was blocking for him or who was playing WR but when he ran that triple option it was nice looking run

I bet we lose 2-3 QBs
We could lose some WRs also and probably a RB
 

Scat_Back

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Morton and Martin had some moments though vs other guys we pencil in. NPG is a high possiblity unless of course like many wonder about smothers (content on riding the scholarship here even though they'll never start).
Yea there is going to be some guys leaving that might be decent. We just had a big recruiting class and there’s just too many guys at a few spots, so some have to go and it won’t be the guys that just got here.
 

Scat_Back

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I liked HH more than Purdy or Torres

He had some balls batted down and also took a bad sack but he could be nasty in QB run game and we never really got to see him throw. No idea who was blocking for him or who was playing WR but when he ran that triple option it was nice looking run

I bet we lose 2-3 QBs
We could lose some WRs also and probably a RB
I like HH athletic ability, but we would have to succeed at calling runs nearly every play for him to work out. He showed very poor awareness and ability dropping back as a passer, and throwing the ball. He had -1 yards passing. Not to say he can’t improve or he just had a bad game but there was not much positive gleaned from that game. Purdy at least knew when and where to run dropping back. Purdy also threw it better and Torres threw it better.
 

dinglefritz

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I liked HH more than Purdy or Torres

He had some balls batted down and also took a bad sack but he could be nasty in QB run game and we never really got to see him throw. No idea who was blocking for him or who was playing WR but when he ran that triple option it was nice looking run

I bet we lose 2-3 QBs
We could lose some WRs also and probably a RB
We’ve seen HH throw. The sacks, balls delivered low and late throws aren’t a great sign. I think it will sort itself out this week
 

putemintheaisles

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Torres, Poala-gates, kpai, smothers (he must have a serious girlfriend here because this dude won’t leave), purdy, probably 1 running back.
 

dinglefritz

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I like HH athletic ability, but we would have to succeed at calling runs nearly every play for him to work out. He showed very poor awareness and ability dropping back as a passer, and throwing the ball. He had -1 yards passing. Not to say he can’t improve or he just had a bad game but there was not much positive gleaned from that game. Purdy at least knew when and where to run dropping back. Purdy also threw it better and Torres threw it better.
Nailed it.
 

dinglefritz

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Torres, Poala-gates, kpai, smothers (he must have a serious girlfriend here because this dude won’t leave), purdy, probably 1 running back.
Smothers loves NU. He’s athletic enough to play WR or DB. I think he’s another guy who might want to get in to coaching.
 

king_kong_

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purdy has had backup reps (at minimum) for 3 years - he has zero arm strength & is not a P5 quarterback. in 50 passing attempts at NU, his longest completion is less than 20 yards. 0 TDs, 3 picks, 45% completions. and that's with the most prolific WR in NU history on the field.

HH has had backup reps for 4 months. he's clearly many steps ahead of purdy/smothers/torres in terms of physical tools. timing in the passing game takes reps. he stepped up in the pocket and kept his eyes downfield as opposed to tucking/running because he's doing what coaches who know what they're talking about are telling him to do - get better in the pocket

purdy's best plays were scrambles in which he pulled it after his primary read was covered. he led his team to 1 single first down in the 1st half and zero points while committing 2 turnovers. he's a nervous chicken who knows he can't throw. his check down on the last play of the 1st half was really sad - can't even throw it 50 yards :(

I cannot believe anybody needs to see more from him after last year + looking the exact same on saturday. absolutely clueless. there's a reason he's #3 on the depth chart and HH is #2 until CT gets back. thank God Rhule is in charge.
 
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king_kong_

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a play everybody is glossing over:



important to remember the spring game is practice. HH, CT and Sims are the only guys on the roster who make this throw look this easy. absolute dime. Torres, too, maybe.
 
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Have to get from 98 to 85. Which 13 will be moving on?
I know that will be the action followed but I still find it strange that in the era of all this NIL why the 85 scholarship limit still exists. You could just provide equal benefits (and more) to non-scholarship players with NIL. The roster limit could/would be just how many players the coaches want and can handle on a team.
 

king_kong_

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Smothers loves NU. He’s athletic enough to play WR or DB. I think he’s another guy who might want to get in to coaching.
he may just be a GA moving forward

back to back seasons ended with surgeries & now he's half a year behind his peers in a new system
 

putemintheaisles

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Smothers loves NU. He’s athletic enough to play WR or DB. I think he’s another guy who might want to get in to coaching.
That's a good point. All the talk about HH, I wonder if Smothers has tried to play DB or WR at all.

This coaching staff seems really cool, especially people who have played football before know sometimes you literally get one shot and coaches refuse to let you change positions.

I applaud Smothers for sticking it out, kinda crazy because if you look at his High School stats I believe he broke Bo Jackson's touchdown record in the state of Alabama. Even as a QB that's a cool statistic to tell your grandkids lol
 

HUSKERFAN66

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I'm hoping our incoming freshman kicker is the real deal. Yes conditions weren't wonderful but.....
 

realHuskerDrew

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I don’t think we should list names but you could do it by position groups. The number leaving probably close to below.

QB-2
RB-1-2
WR-3-4
TE-0 Position moves already in place
OL- 0
DL-0
Edge-1
LB-2-3
DB-4-5
Pretty close. My own eyeballs see 2 CBs, 3 safeties, 1-2 edge, maybe 1 TE, 2 WR, 1-2 RB, 2 QB, 2 LB
Don’t know what Torres’ ceiling is, but we need to find out. We know what Purdy and Smothers can do and we can’t keep them and waste the spots. HH is limited also, so he needs to move on. We need a good QB this recruiting class.
We have loads of WR coming in so the focus should be OL and QB, DL and LB. And a good RB1
 

realHuskerDrew

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Oh yeah, and the kicker needs to move on. No way a P5 once proud program trying to make it back should have 2 scholly Kickers
 

cubsker_rivals142943

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I feel like one or both Smothers or Purdy are fated to go. HH might stick around and either be the archetype developmental QB that only really ever spells the starter during his career, or across a position change while here since the coaches love his athleticism so much.

Probably at least one back will go as well as maybe a receiver or two. Don't see any linemen or tes leaving.

Hard to tell on defense... It seems we'll be playing lots of dudes at depth often, so why would any leave? Though it wouldn't surprise me to see an older guy or two leave who might feel passed over whether due to their performance in the past or injury (Henrich comes to mind).

Henrich isn't leaving fwiw.
 

JabroniBlvd

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None of these below would surprise me
  1. Clark
  2. Morton
  3. J. Martin
  4. Pola-Gates
  5. Farmer
  6. Hill
  7. Lynum
  8. K. Williams
  9. Kpai
  10. Malcolm
  11. Purdy
  12. Torres
  13. Smothers
  14. A. Allen
  15. Androff
  16. Hardy
  17. V. Jones
 

catch54

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Feb 5, 2003
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None of these below would surprise me
  1. Clark
  2. Morton
  3. J. Martin
  4. Pola-Gates
  5. Farmer
  6. Hill
  7. Lynum
  8. K. Williams
  9. Kpai
  10. Malcolm
  11. Purdy
  12. Torres
  13. Smothers
  14. A. Allen
  15. Androff
  16. Hardy
  17. V. Jones
Not Ajay Allen. Unless he has serious injury issues. He was terrific last year as a freshman.
 

Headcard

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Not Ajay Allen. Unless he has serious injury issues. He was terrific last year as a freshman.

I agree, but not everyone that goes will be the ones we want to go. I hope we can keep Allen, but he might not like being behind Ervin and Grant, at the moment. He's a kid with a lot of options.
 

oldjar07

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I agree, but not everyone that goes will be the ones we want to go. I hope we can keep Allen, but he might not like being behind Ervin and Grant, at the moment. He's a kid with a lot of options.
And Frost stupidly gave him a lot of options and a big head. He got the nod over Ervin last year, and once you get a taste of success, especially early on, it's difficult to just bottle that up and ride the bench.
 

Hail Varsity

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None of these below would surprise me
  1. Clark
  2. Morton
  3. J. Martin
  4. Pola-Gates
  5. Farmer
  6. Hill
  7. Lynum
  8. K. Williams
  9. Kpai
  10. Malcolm
  11. Purdy
  12. Torres
  13. Smothers
  14. A. Allen
  15. Androff
  16. Hardy
  17. V. Jones
Good list. I think we'll be surprised by some who choose to stay (if allowed) and some who will opt to go. There may be a couple who are in mix as a starter or in the two-deep that decide they want a change of scenery.

Among those in this list, I was surprised at the reps that guys like Morton, Lynum and Hardy got considering we've heard nothing about them all Spring.

QB will be interesting. I'm not sure Haarberg is the answer at #3 behind Sims and Thompson, but the coaches will need to sort that out. Let's certainly hope that Thompson chooses to stick around or the back-up situation will be scary.
 

inWV

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Torres, Poala-gates, kpai, smothers (he must have a serious girlfriend here because this dude won’t leave), purdy, probably 1 running back.
Some kids will leave, others will take the no-play scholarship support and finish their degree.
 
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Grown men being this obsessive and confident talking about 20 year old kids playing football is so hilarious and sad to read all at once
Says the guy on a message board designed to discuss 20 year old kids playing football. Do you get on message boards that discuss politics and wonder outloud why are they talking about politics?
 

realHuskerDrew

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Not Ajay Allen. Unless he has serious injury issues. He was terrific last year as a freshman.
There was a rumor that he was possibly going to hit the portal. I wouldn’t assume that someone who looked ok last year wouldn’t leave this year. Hope he stays but who knows.
Also hope Torres stays. Don’t know his ceiling but he’s young. Purdy and Smothers already have a ceiling that we have seen. Haarberg looked so so. I know he’s young too but a year older than Torres.
 

inWV

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I agree, but not everyone that goes will be the ones we want to go. I hope we can keep Allen, but he might not like being behind Ervin and Grant, at the moment. He's a kid with a lot of options.
Reading the tea leaves, it appears that Allen may not have taken to the new coaches. Looks like he's #4 on the depth chart, but obviously has talent. Definite portal candidate. What is odd is that Rahmir does nothing but produce when he's on the field yet always seems to be at best the third option.
 
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There was a rumor that he was possibly going to hit the portal. I wouldn’t assume that someone who looked ok last year wouldn’t leave this year. Hope he stays but who knows.
Also hope Torres stays. Don’t know his ceiling but he’s young. Purdy and Smothers already have a ceiling that we have seen. Haarberg looked so so. I know he’s young too but a year older than Torres.
He may enter the portal, but most of the talk was because he was in a green jersey, then a yellow jersey. People were speculating that he was in those jerseys because he chose to be because he was entering the portal.
 

cubsker_rivals142943

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And Frost stupidly gave him a lot of options and a big head. He got the nod over Ervin last year, and once you get a taste of success, especially early on, it's difficult to just bottle that up and ride the bench.

Frost stupidly played his best RB and then Mickey stupidly did it again vs OU?
 

Harry Caray

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Does anyone have a list of all of the players who've signed with the NIL Collective? I'd surmise that the ones who did not are probably going to the ones who leave.