So here’s the problem
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I agree that it is hard on some people. I also think that it should last as long as is necessary to get the job done. We need a barrier/wall, it's a simple as that.
do not call it a fence.
Trump on the wall: 'Call it a steel fence.' Trump in 2015: 'It's not a fence.'
https://theweek.com/speedreads/815881/trump-wall-call-steel-fence-trump-2015-not-fence
Asylum seekers climb US border wall as migrant caravan gathers on Mexican side - Donald Trump's America - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-04-30/migrant-caravan-gathers-on-us-mexico-border/9709848
What company driven to turn a profit and successfully grow profitably against its competition attempting the same thing would hire "non essential" employees as part of that overall strategic mission anyway?
Ans: Leviathan (aka: The United States Government) Zero competition, zero pressure to turn a profit, and zero "essential" employees. Anything Uncle Sam does can be done better and more efficiently in the Private sector..including the Armed Forces which are an amalgamation of Defense contractors anyway who build weapons systems for the Government.
Anything else, you name it...can be performed in the private sector, making ALL Government leeches essentially expendable.
#shutitdown
Plain & simple we need good border security & better immigration laws , what we have is simply not working.
We can call it a moat , a fence , a wall or a barrier, but it is a ESSENTIAL part of border security, no one can deny that not anyone with any common sense, every Democrat has said so in the past & most border patrol agents agree, now we build walls for other countries but not ours ...yes i know technology is a part of it & enforcement of our laws that are all ready in place. Its nothing more than political bull **** & those voting against it are somehow making money from illegals
We can call it a moat , a fence , a wall or a barrier, but it is a ESSENTIAL part of border security, no one can deny that not anyone with any common sense, every Democrat has said so in the past & most border patrol agents agree, now we build walls for other countries but not ours ...yes i know technology is a part of it & enforcement of our laws that are all ready in place. Its nothing more than political bull **** & those voting against it are somehow making money from illegals
Ive worked on government contracts & it didnt take me long to find a different contractor to work for , working under gov contract is like being married, when its good , its great when its bad move fast
They could solve this problem tomorrow snow Sled Baby by doing two things instantly...tomorrow.
Immediately make it a Federal crime to hire ANY illegal alien who does not have proper authorization to work in America through either e-verify or a legal green card.
Shut down Sanctuary cities, immediately deport all illegals...especially criminals and restrict voting rights only to those immigrants who have come here legally. If you broke the Law coming here, you don't get to vote, you don't get a driver's license, you don't get Welfare, you don't get "sanctuary", you don't get a job...you only get picked up and sent back home!
If they did those two things, this problem ends tomorrow.
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The Wall has nothing to do with opening the government. Sounds like a simple fix.
Not to sound harsh, but if I were labelled a non-essential, I would come to terms with that as soon as possible. Either set aside rainy day money, or find a new job. That situation has to suck for all of those involved, but it is the way politics is played nowadays.
Although, I don’t blame the GOP either....,well other than their leader, who is using this spotlight to sure up his base, because Ann Coulter told him to and Sean Hannity says he supports it.
Did they offer any kind of compromise that had a shot of being signed? Passing bills that you know wont get signed is putting politics over the people.
If you dont blame everyone involved you dont understand the issue.
For instance...How many dollars in pork projects did Nancy Pelosi promise to secure the leadership? Why cant she spend 5 billion or half that much as offered by Trump in compromise just to get the govt opened?
Republicans stopped worrying about the debt a long time ago, but don't pretend that the left is any better.
We give over $40 billion per year in foreign aid. A one time expenditure of 1/8 of that is chump change.
So you'd just be happy go lucky?
Back in my contracting days in IT after 9/11, I did the same. It was too volatile for me not to protect myself. You're an idiot if you don't.
We could suspend food stamp payments to illegal immigrants for one month in exchange for paying for that wall which would eventually mean less illegals receiving food stamps that would pay for the cost of the wall itself.
It's no offense to the good work some of those folks are doing, but I honestly cannot think of any government employee who isn't non-essential. What job is anyone in government doing that can't be done by someone else in the private sector?
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You can lie but it would help if you could be honest and tell the board what non-essential federal agency does your government check come from?
I love how the party promising to spend 32 trillion on healthcare is calling people out for 5 billion.
Like I said. Pelosi promised more than 5 billion just to get the votes she needed to get the speaker job. Apparently her job is more important than the thousands of govt employees she claims to stand up for.
Not when you think about what will be spent to complete the project, what additional funds will be needed to make it effective, and the opportunity cost of what those funds could do for border control if spent on other things.
If we added up the cost of the wall and compared that to the cost of housing, feeding, medically taking care of and educating all of the illegals who come into the country every year, I think the wall would end up being a little cheaper.
It wasnt that long ago the one of the biggest opponents of the wall on here was quoting Paul Krugman and the economic philosophy that govt spending is what keeps the economy moving but that person would never admit to the hypocrisy of opposing the wall now. Personally I think the wall is a great tool to channelize border crossing lications and giving the border patrol a better chance to succeed.If we added up the cost of the wall and compared that to the cost of housing feeding medically takong care of and educating all of the illegals who come into the country every year, I think the wall would end up being a little cheaper.
I’m fully funded for about another two weeks. I’m working from home. So I’m not missing a paycheck. Federal workers will not receive a paycheck until this is over though. And I’m certain there are contractors such as myself that are not funded that are missing a paycheck because I did in 2013. Also, contractors don’t get backpay.
I just wanted to make clear you clowns understood WHO is causing this. Glad I could set you all straight. Enjoy your surveying dave.
I dont survey cp. Let me know if you need work.
Ps. Nancy is causing this. She could end it today.
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