I'd actually favor a permanent shut down of all those non essential functions and a permanent commensurate reduction of income taxes no longer needed to pay for the non essential wasteful spending. We'd balance the budget by next Summer.
So here’s the problem
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I'd actually favor a permanent shut down of all those non essential functions and a permanent commensurate reduction of income taxes no longer needed to pay for the non essential wasteful spending. We'd balance the budget by next Summer.
Or obeying the Law. I'll bet they haven't shut down their "Sanctuary cities"...but there's no Federal money going into any of 'em either is there?
Nope....
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It pleases me to see the Left so upset over how Trump has shut down their worshiped idol and no one cares except them. Look at 'em in this thread. They're all whining like someone has taken their pacifier.
Can you say that again for @dave? Who shutdown the government? He seems to have missed a talking point. Thanks used truck salesman.
Sure I'll say it, Trump did too. He will shut down the non essential (that means not needed) sections of the Government if he doesn't get the money he needs to seal our border and protect Americans from illegal ailiens invading our country. His first obligation as Commander-in-chief is to uphold the Law, protect the Constitution and the Nation. He's doing his job. Government being shut down is not the end of Life in America as we know it...only the end of Life as Leftist Leviathan swamp dwelling deep state parasites.have known it.
I know it has been a rough run for you due to your inability to read but I have said many times the shutdown is his fault, and the senate, and the house. Sorry for your struggles.
I still have a job and I'm still getting paid handout boy. Is your job in government non essential? You just now figuring that out? Can't you find something else to do, or would it be harder than your now cancelled non essential not needed cushy government welfare check disguised as a job with real work?
Repeat after me..."Would you like fries with that Sir?"
You realize that due to the shutdown trump is refusing to to fund the FBI, TSA, Coast Guard and Border Patrol? How long do you think those people work without pay? How does that make us more secure? Clown ******* shoe administration. He can’t even get his own party to agree on who to blame. Sad.
Haha. Clown shoes. House passed legislation. One party refuses to put it up for a vote. Sorry for your low IQ. Maybe someone like me will come take your job. MAGA
lol. People like me buy your overpriced trucks. Careful what you wish for truckboy.
Its comical that you call people names and you dont even realize how dumb you sound. Passing legislation that wont be signed is posturing not leading. There is zero, nada and zilch chance that you will take my job. I could get you a spot on a survey crew whenever you want. Give me a call.
I get phat commission checks from contractors who buy utility trucks from me doing government make work. So it's all good.
What does it say about the Left that they would rather fund Sanctuary cities that house illegal ailiens than fund a wall along the southern border to keep illegal ailiens from entering the sanctuary cities in the first place?
You realize the FBI, Coast Guard, Border patrol and TSA are still up and running because they are considered vital or essential functions of Government. Their pay is being furloughed...once a budget is signed they will get every dime they're owed.
What about your non essential government job? Why did you choose such a worthless career path? Real work too hard for 'ya?
Trump shut it down...he said so. But he's not keeping it closed. He's already told Democrats what's needed for him to sign spending authorizations. If they don't send that to him...then they're telling him to keep it all shut down. (at least the parts we can do without which is most of it)[winking]
They have to go to work every day, put their lives on the line for many of them, and they don't get their paychecks until whenever? If your boss told you that you had to defer your pay until him and the rest of the board came to an agreement about when to pay you, you'd have a new job tomorrow.
They know what they are getting into when they take federal jobs. I am not saying that makes it Ok but if they dont see that eventuality when they take the job, they should have.
That's rationalizing bad government. This is an employer defaulting on its obligations to its employees. And the folks who are deemed necessary are now chained to their desks. They had personal travel plans? Cancelled, can't take time off. Insurance premiums aren't being paid.
Also, if you want good people in your employ, you have to pay them a reasonable salary. If you want to keep good people in your employ, you have to continue to pay them.
I am not rationalizing anything. That is just reality. If it is horribly set up Id say no ****. Why do we allow our government to be this dysfunctional? We get the government we deserve.
I have to admit that's true, but most employers don't hire you unless you're essential to their operations. In the case of these Government employees you spoke of they will get paid...ironically in the case of ICE and Law enforcement they're not getting paid right now because Democrats refuse to fund their legitimate Law enforcement operations! In fact, it was the border patrol who asked for that wall years ago, and Democrats were willing back then to fund it. (or at least they said so)
What's changed?
Who's in the White House. But you are 100% correct... I would not work a job one day past my ability to not get paid for it. These folks need to get paid and Trump's willing to pay them...to do their jobs... which means enforcing our immigration laws. The wall is a tool to enable them to do their job more efficiently, not a waste of money or a monument to Trump as the Left claims.
We're being invaded. Build the damn wall...pay the border patrol, and ICE agents.Protect the country!
I know it's a separate argument from paying these folks, but are you as upset with how much money their employer (Government) wastes instead of paying some of these essential people what they're worth? What if we eliminated all of the needless spending, and paid these vital folks more instead of arguing over how much more useless debt we're going to authorize be spent?
I seriously doubt you can afford what's on my lot...even though you claim I sell only "pre-owned" Trucks. Even in that inventory, the average price is still around 27,500. That's probably more than you make doing your non essentially nothing government job.
When this essential worker thing comes up, it means that things are stripped down to bare bones. If they have 10 things they usually do out of an office, maybe 2 are considered essential. It's like doing car maintenance. I have to do the oil change, but I'll leave the timing belt alone since I can't afford it now.
Also, if you are a contract employee - not a government employee - you can't be considered essential no matter what. Those people do not get made whole on their lost wages. These things are cluster f's beyond belief. You take people who are hard working and dedicated, and you abuse them for political nonsense. It's stupid, and it drives good people away. Meanwhile, when these folks come back to work, no pay increases for anyone in government, except cabinet members and the vp are getting raises.
I'm not saying there isn't waste in government. I know there is. People you trust to carry firearms or hold national secrets have to get 3 or 4 people to sign off on the purchase of a box of pens. If they want to buy a computer, it's obsolete by the time 5 levels of people sign off on that kind of purchase. The bureaucracy is bloated, but the folks in the salt mines are generally pretty dedicated.
I agree with you my friend it's a cluster. What I can't figure out is why we're arguing over simply enforcing the immigration laws we have on the books? The border patrol asked for that wall...it's not Trump's idea. He's the only one willing to stand up and try to see it gets built because our lax enforcement of the immigration laws otherwise is a complete joke. As for the "essential/non essential" government workers, to me this is a perfect time to take a hard look at not only subcontracting out most of this stuff (non essential) to competitive bidding filled by private companies...but also zero based budgeting.
How much of this stuff do we really need (as in your car repair analogy) and how much can either wait or we do some other time or not at all? You make some good points and I truly feel bad for some of those dedicated folks who should get paid. But I also feel bad for taxpayers who now can clearly see how much of their hard earned money is simply wasted in needless bureaucracy or non essential government projects.
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I couldn't imagine being considered non-essential, if I was considered a non essential employee i would change my profession.....just to get up in the morning & look in the mirror would be demoralizing. ..yes im a very essential part of every job im on , yes i can be replaced, but i can replace my employers faster than they can replace me
Trump Asked If He's Still 'Proud' to Own the Government Shutdown - NowThis
https://nowthisnews.com/videos/poli...es-still-proud-to-own-the-government-shutdown
Full disclosure, I am a federal employee that was sent home without pay and I’m also responsible for a staff of contractors that were sent home without pay as well. And while I may get my back pay, the contractors will not - they’re losing money that they’ll never be able to recover (think how you’d do missing a month’s pay). So, to those of you who are spiking the football over this shutdown (regardless of which side of the isle you’re on) remember there are people who are hurting over this shutdown. And for those of you who still don’t get it, it’s not the federal employee that’s the problem, we are just here to support programs the people you put in office voted to create. It’s not the federal employee’s fault that the program they work on exists, it’s yours - the voter. And if you lack the ability to think about an issue -beyond someone else’s tweet- then you’re also part of the problem.