Skj transferrin

brianpoe

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And fans need to realize kids want to play and if there is another place for them to play more then it makes sense to transfer. Seems to have worked out nicely for Mitchell and Wiltjer. Like Cal said “UK isn’t for everyone. THat doesn’t apply for just those who don’t pick UK


I bet that Mitchell is tearing it up... wherever he is playing or coaching....

Did our women's coach transfer to another school?
 
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John Henry

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I am debating to myself if I am disappointed or surprised. I enjoy it when we bring in a talented freshmen like Williams but I also like to witness the development of a player like SKJ as he becomes an upper classman. So that disappoints me. But was SKJ going to improve his game to a point he would crack the starting lineup. Probably not so he decides to leave. Either way I do not blame Coach Cal for this. He can't stop recruiting just to save a spot for someone who has not earned it. SKJ had two years and failed to average more than 15 minutes a game. His stats are anemic. That is on him, not Cal. Good luck SKJ at your new home.
 
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Jakarii

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Not a negative for the player at all, only negative dor the fans who feel a player shouldn’t transfer somewhere to get more playing time. No one comes to college to sit or not play much and if you see more players coming who are better why stay. That would make zero sense. You can go somewhere work just as hard and play more


It's a negative for the player, not really for the coach or program. If that's the attitude of the player, is it not best for the school and team that they move on?
 

ZaytovenCat

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I dont know all of the aspects into SKJ transferring.

I will say if it is based solely on not wanting to compete for a spot then I can't pat him on the back and wish him well.

This is UK, earn your spot.


The bright side of things, perhaps he knows that PJ, JV and WG will return. That is a bunch of talent at the 4/5 spots along with Richards and EJ.

So thats good. But SKJ is a junior and should be ready for that battle.... smh.



To my friends above of which I quoted.

Let's put this into perspective.

Our #1 Rival Duke has had 10 transfers since Cal has been here. We have had 5 1/2. (Sorry, I'm not sure I'll ever get over the Harrow saga)
Actuallg there’s been more and it’s become more common the last few years.

Dodson
Poole
Harrow
Wiltjer
Lee
Matthews
Wynyard
SKJ

Feels like I’m missing one but that’s 8.
 

brianpoe

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Not a negative for the player at all, only negative dor the fans who feel a player shouldn’t transfer somewhere to get more playing time. No one comes to college to sit or not play much and if you see more players coming who are better why stay. That would make zero sense. You can go somewhere work just as hard and play more


Or you can work harder and try to improve.

We vastly recruited over Derek Willis for 4 straight years and he ended up a starter anyway...
 

Blueworld_3.0

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No way anyone can convince me Richards deserved the number of minutes he got compared to what SKJ got. I think Cal even realized this late in the season. SKJ would have been very valuable next season. Losing him hurts the team.
 

brianpoe

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The last night

Actuallg there’s been more and it’s become more common the last few years.

Dodson
Poole
Harrow
Wiltjer
Lee
Matthews
Wynyard
SKJ

Feels like I’m missing one but that’s 8.


Ummm... Dodson and Wynyard were kicked off the team. So 6, like i said... or 5.5 because I dont give Harrow too much credit for actually being here.
 
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Bobcat94_rivals

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I agree with your point. Just not convinced NR will be anything better than what SKJ was giving us with far fewer min.

I fail to see what the issue is then using your example. Considering SKJ was giving less statistically than Richards who is a year less eligibility wise what makes you think SKJ would do more his junior year? At no time in his career has SKJ come close to showing the promise and game Richards showed early in the year. Of course that was against lesser talent but he atleast showed it.
 
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MWes11

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This is so frustrating. Gabrial and SKJ would have been juniors. But UK can't have juniors and seniors. IF you don't get to the NBA, you transfer.
A couple past friends wanted to come and say hello.




 

bookerfan66

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No way anyone can convince me Richards deserved the number of minutes he got compared to what SKJ got. I think Cal even realized this late in the season. SKJ would have been very valuable next season. Losing him hurts the team.
Richards minutes were 14.7 per game.SKJ was 13.7.
 
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ZaytovenCat

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I’m just to the point where i don’t care if we miss on freshmen targets anymore if it’s just going to run off a veteran. I’m sick of being freshman dominated every year. It’s not working.
 

SemperFiCat

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I fail to see what the issue is then using your example. Considering SKJ was giving less statistically than Richards who is a year less eligibility wise what makes you think SKJ would do more his junior year? At no time in his career has SKJ come close to showing the promise and game Richards showed early in the year. Of course that was against lesser talent but he atleast showed it.
Because SKJ was actually showing improvement. NR never did despite all the starts and min.
 

brianpoe

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I’m just to the point where i don’t care if we miss on freshmen targets anymore if it’s just going to run off a veteran. I’m sick of being freshman dominated every year. It’s not working.


What vet did we run off?

Transfers are part of the game, Duke has had twice as many and won twice as many titles..... now, how does that fit your agenda my good friend?
 
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ZaytovenCat

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Ummm... Dodson and Wynyard were kicked off the team. So 6, like i said... or 5.5 because I dont give Harrow too much credit for actually being here.
Transfer is a transfer. Hell you could basically throw in Hump who left knowing he had no shot at the nba and from the sound of KSR today Gabriel will be following Hump’s path.
 

*CatinIL*

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This is so frustrating. Gabrial and SKJ would have been juniors. But UK can't have juniors and seniors. IF you don't get to the NBA, you transfer.
I must have missed it...is Gabriel leaving? Color this Alien hunter confused...
 
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ZaytovenCat

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What vet did we run off?

Transfers are part of the game, Duke has had twice as many and won twice as many titles..... now, how does that fit your agenda my good friend?
Duke also has good upperclassmen nearly every year. Those transfers don’t hurt them as much. Just ran off SKJ.
 
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Counting PJ that's 3 for now, # 4 tonight, then 1 or 2 more. time to start all over AGAIN
 

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Actuallg there’s been more and it’s become more common the last few years.

Dodson
Poole
Harrow
Wiltjer
Lee
Matthews
Wynyard
SKJ

Feels like I’m missing one but that’s 8.

OH NO!!!!!!!!!!!!

Which one of those guys do/did we miss?

Certainly not Dodson, Poole or Harrow.

Wiltjer could shoot but couldn't play defense for ****.

Lee helped us out in the Michigan game, but beyond that, wasn't a threat. He was more of a luxury piece. Just an athlete.

Matthews, yes. This is the one transfer that I hated. Dude is a baller.

Wynyard, not sure why he was ever on the team.

SKJ, we'll see. But he isn't exactly an All-American candidate.
 
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Blueworld_3.0

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Richards minutes were 14.7 per game.SKJ was 13.7.
Only because Cal started playing SKJ more during and after the SEC-T. Richards was getting the majority of those minutes up till then. BTW, that 14.7 that Richards was averaging was about twice what he deserved.
 
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Maybe you've never played sports before. Everyone wants to be a starter. Coaches however BS everyone who comes off the bench into thinking that they are the 6th man starter...or that the 9th batter is just the additional leadoff batter or countless other coach-speak nonsense to make the reserves feel good about not starting.

Certainly we can all say...it aint who starts...its who finishes.... But that is game to game dependent on a lot of factors. At least, in this case, Richards started over a couple guys who were better than he is. Wenyan Gabriel first of all and then at times SKJ. Richards started IMO in order to create the youngest starting lineup in the country and to create that narrative. That narrative feeds the exit door too when you are a lightly used soph.
LOL. Cookies are for closers!
 
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JC43

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He was generally ranked between 20-30. A fringe 4/5 star talent. Way to miss the point though.
No point missed. I believe in facts, he left high school rated a Five star, not four and half, not four. But five. Facts are facts, you can't change them just to suit your agenda. This is exactly what is wrong with Legacy media today, ignoring facts, equals ignorance. Go ahead tell me I am wrong. Cool story anyway
 

mjj_2K

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Richards minutes were 14.7 per game.SKJ was 13.7.
Yep, and whether some fans think SKJ was "better" or not, there's no question that Richards was a lot more productive in those minutes. He scored more, on a better shooting % (FG and FT), he had more rebounds and blocks by a very wide margin, and he turned the ball over and fouled at almost the exact same rate.
 

bookerfan66

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Only because Cal started playing SKJ more during and after the SEC-T. Richards was getting the majority of those minutes up till then. BTW, that 14.7 that Richards was averaging was about twice what he deserved.
Strange then how Richards numbers were still better than SKJ were in about the same amount of minutes.And yet he didn't deserve any playing time.[eyeroll]
 
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GonzoCat90

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Remember when Cal started 5 star sophomore Wenyen Gabriel over five star freshman PJ Washington but then people thought Cal kept starting five star Nick Richards over five star sophomore Sacha Killeya Jones so he could say he started five freshmen?

I mean, that happened, right? I'm not the only one living in this universe?
 

brianpoe

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Duke also has good upperclassmen nearly every year. Those transfers don’t hurt them as much. Just ran off SKJ.


I agree with the upperclassmen part and Duke.

You have zero evidence Cal ran off our only player over 6'10 besides NR. Not sure why you state such a thing knowing it is purely speculation..?

I mean I know why you do it... but surely you cannot get that much enjoyment from the posters here who despise you?
 
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All these kids have to realize that there is nothing wrong with staying at a school for 4 years and developing...sometimes you are not very good

This is BS. Developing, as in being recruited over every year and playing minimal minutes? Nick would have been ahead of him next year and Wiseman the year after.

Good for SKJ for wanting to play and going where he can. Best of luck to him.

Isn't the only appropriate response 4 final fours, two other elite rights and a title? Think I got that right.
 
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JC CATS

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Really? You don't think its totally possible that Diallo and Vanderbilt go to the NBA and Wenyen goes overseas or G league? If PJ has a good combine he's gone too.
It is possible but I think we lose SGA, KNOX and 1 of PJ, WG, and Vandy not all 3. SKJ would have been nice but it is no big deal he left. I am counting Hami, Knox and SGA gone