saying Frost needs 8 wins to keep his job. Was very confident in that number. Also said a struggle vs GA Southern and a big loss to Oklahoma could end this all on 10/1.
Sipple on 1620 ....
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Sipple is a blowhard
imagine forgoing your column to blog for a fat slob on a site nobody goes to
Expect lots of clickbait driven by lots of late night regret
imagine forgoing your column to blog for a fat slob on a site nobody goes to
Expect lots of clickbait driven by lots of late night regret
He may be, but he is definitely in the know. He has basically been a mouthpiece for the AD in the past and has been a huge Frost apologist. Him stating this is pretty significant, IMO. It also makes me think Trev has a pretty good idea who he wants and feels good about getting him.
Yes, this would be consistent with what others have reported as well (regarding the 2nd sentence)
The part about 8 wins, I highly doubt that. We'd take a measly 6 at this pt. Trev should know that as well.
I have zero confidence in trev Alberts doing the right thing in either getting rid of Frost or bringing in a highly successful coach with track record of success. Trev is a failure and so is president Ted Carter, who is completely incompetent
If he gets to 6 wins - certainly 7 - and is fired there is a going to be a very vocal subset grousing about the improvement from the 3 wins the prior year, a bowl birth and the fact that the offensive staff was just in year 1
were going to have the whole Solich situation over again if that is the case
the Frosties will squawk until the end of time about how he was on the verge of something big before his untimely firing
were going to have the whole Solich situation over again if that is the case
the Frosties will squawk until the end of time about how he was on the verge of something big before his untimely firing
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So how can you say Trev is a failure? Lol. Little early don't you think?
At the time of his contract restructure last year it sounded as if there are specific metrics in place that would trigger a million dollar pay raise AND A CONTRACT EXTENSION - I hope that metric isn’t anything less than 9 wins
“As previously announced, Frost's salary for 2022 will drop from $5 million to $4 million. However, if Frost "achieves metrics mutually agreed to" then his salary will bump back up to $5 million per year for the rest of the contract & he would get a one-year extension added on to his deal to keep him through the 2027 season.”
“As previously announced, Frost's salary for 2022 will drop from $5 million to $4 million. However, if Frost "achieves metrics mutually agreed to" then his salary will bump back up to $5 million per year for the rest of the contract & he would get a one-year extension added on to his deal to keep him through the 2027 season.”
Yeah...I agree.
First off, Trev did the right thing in cutting Mav football (no one went or cared) and wrestling (no one went or cared) because one March Madness bid is a bigger deal than 10 titles in a row for Mav wrestling. It is just is.
He also hired (by all accounts) a super star hockey coach.
Should he have canned Fred? Yeah, probably
Should he have canned Frost? Yeah, probably.
But more than likely both of those are happening this/these seasons.
So right now, we are just waiting to judge him on his FB hire.
He is nearly as knowledgeable as everyone on this forum. On top of that he has zero access/contact with anyone outside of his office.
This. Sipple might be a gasbag, but he does have access to the AD and always has. That is exactly why he has always been such a suck-up, sycophant and a program sunshine pumper. It all had one goal: Access. I think he is most likely repeating something he has been told. I highly doubt Sipple would get that specific unless he had something he was basing it on. Otherwise, he would have just said that in his view Frost needs 8 wins and just left it at that. And I am not buying the clickbait argument. There are ways he could have generated a click bait article without going out on a limb like this saying Frost will be fired by 10/1 if things do not go well in the next two games.
Funny isn't it that a game against Georgia Southern could make or break the career of a Husker coach. It is a sad and pitiful reminder that we have sunk to depths none of us could have imagined even 15 years ago.
you really think he retained his access after leaving the rag of record to wallow in the dark corners of the college football recruiting web?
I don't
If Frost gets to 7 wins, he stays, but show me 7 wins... It could be done if for some reason the DL turns it around, but it is going to be hard to get to with the way we currently look. What a difference a year makes. If we had last years D with this O, we might be cooking with gas.
The fact he didn't even mention Ronnie Green tells me he has no clue what he's talking about. I'm looking forward to seeing what Trev can accomplish with the opportunity to make a hire.
I suppose I would look at it more as connections.
I would be shocked if he doesn't have a few "friends" inside the walls. No, how reliable it is all, who knows. Throwing out an actual number of wins is interesting, especially for a guy like Sip.
Whether Sipple has good info or not, seems hard to disagree with the position being reported. While there is always the possibility things start clicking with the new staff and personnel and they get to 7-8 wins, there has been nothing over the past 4+ seasons under Frost that supports it is even remotely probable. The NW game was a must-win, show-me game for Frost and he blew it. I'll be shocked if they win enough for him to keep his job, and only slightly less shocked if he makes it to the end of the season.
As a person who watches closely to how & when people say things I can't help but wonder if this is purposely being leaked to start easing the public into the notion that this is real and also to apply additional pressure on Scott for the same reasons... had last week gone as we all wanted it too I don't believe this would be out... now however the stakes just got Hotter and the time could be drawing near so time to let the masses get used to the idea...
If Frost gets 7 wins he is 100% back imo. Trev will say this is an improvement and we also bring back a lot of players next year -- this is also year 1 with new staff that he likes.
Trev is a failure? Please tell me what "You" would have done so much better in 1 year you've been on the job? Please be realistic in your answer.
That's just stupid! He had to end it due to a helium shortage in the country! All our helium we have is to be used for research and lab purposes. Makes more sense than for balloons! SMH
I wouldn't like it, but agree with this. Would represent a winning record against Div 1 competition. But, we are so physically soft I don't see us better than 5-7 tops.
What Sipple apparently said (I didn't hear it) does not strike me as controversial.
Alberts put Frost on 'Notice' - just as employers put under-performing staff on "Action Plans" or "Performance Improvement Plans" as the required paper trail before firing someone. Those action plans lay out specific requirements to maintain the job - and the requirements are NOT "do the minimum to keep your job". The requirements are always "You need to impress me from here on out in order to keep your job".
6 or 7 wins against an easier schedule, to me, qualifies as 'doing the minimum'. 8 wins strikes me as more of a stretch, yet reasonable goal. And to get to 8, he almost needs to be at 3 wins heading to October 1. Which is why I thought the NW loss pretty much sealed his fate.
It's only been two games, but those games looked exactly like the previous 4 years. Occasional spurts of quality football sprinkled in amongst mostly confounding clumsiness and inefficiency.
Alberts put Frost on 'Notice' - just as employers put under-performing staff on "Action Plans" or "Performance Improvement Plans" as the required paper trail before firing someone. Those action plans lay out specific requirements to maintain the job - and the requirements are NOT "do the minimum to keep your job". The requirements are always "You need to impress me from here on out in order to keep your job".
6 or 7 wins against an easier schedule, to me, qualifies as 'doing the minimum'. 8 wins strikes me as more of a stretch, yet reasonable goal. And to get to 8, he almost needs to be at 3 wins heading to October 1. Which is why I thought the NW loss pretty much sealed his fate.
It's only been two games, but those games looked exactly like the previous 4 years. Occasional spurts of quality football sprinkled in amongst mostly confounding clumsiness and inefficiency.
You do know, decisions aren't "made in a vacuum". Trev may want to do something, but he has to have Ronnie Green, Ted Carter, Nebraska Board of Regents, Athletic Department, major financial supporters/boosters in alignment. Especially with the $7 million we would owe Frost before 1 Oct.
The only way Frost could have been fired would have been "for cause". I want to move on also from the Frost era, but Trev made the right call. Establish goals, metrics and deliverables (wins). Frost knows what's required to be "kept on". The individuals/organizations above also know what's required of Frost to remain. Failure to meet those goals is the rational for release due to failure to meet program achievement standards. Trev and Carter aren't failures. Far from it. They are just aware of how to play the "bureaucratic games" involved with large organizations. You gotta have your "ducks in a row" if making a move like this...sometimes that takes a year to set up, unless their is a major violation, gross negligence, personal misconduct which would require action immediately.
Someone didn’t get their beauty rest last night and is a little cranky this morning!
I believe that was decided on by the board of regents anyway. The Alberts bashers never mention the FREAKING EMBEZZLEMENT AND FRAUD that had the athletic department on the verge of collapse. It was either kill everything, or kill two sports. Trev had to be the hatchet man.
I feel like Alberts stepped in to a less dramatic but still unfortunate jam in Lincoln. The pandemic and irresponsible contracts from Moos combined to make it more financially reasonable to do what was done, especially if any boosters really did resist any firings. While I'm not pleased football is spinning its wheels, I also think that the "right" coach takes 2-3 years tops to get any program back above .500, at worst, no matter what. That's the pattern everywhere, even at schools with garbage facilities and zero expectations/tradition.
He’s changed jobs so I don’t believe his past M O is necessarily as relevant as some think
I’m not so sure it’s a cranky type situation. He’s either a troll or a moron. He absolutely has no clue what he is talking about.Someone didn’t get their beauty rest last night and is a little cranky this morning!