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why would Frost replace Mario? He told us he is the best QB coach in the nation...

I sure as hell haven’t seen any improvement from the past 2 seasons have you?

Again he has to start admitting he is wrong and quit sugar coating every thing..
 

oldjar07

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I know I should stop feeding the troll, but this is nonsense. Hiring big time coordinators is how Dabo turned things around at Clemson and he had a very, very weak resume. They will come because Nebraska is still a good job. If they will be supported, given freedom and paid they will absolutely come here. If you pay them, they will come.
Agreed, we should be top 5 in assistant salaries with the talent to back it up. It's asinine to think we can win with below average assistants.
 

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I know I should stop feeding th troll, but this is nonsense. Hiring big time coordinators is how Dabo turned things around at Clemson and he had a very, very weak resume. They will come because Nebraska is still a good job. If they will be supported, given freedom and paid they will absolutely come here. If you pay them, they will come.

dabo when he hired chad morris as OC and had kevin steele as DC had a 15-12 (.555) record with 2 bowls games in 2 years before winning a conf title in year 3

if that is a "very, very weak resume" what is a 11-20 (.366) record with zero bowl games? It would likely be professional suicide for an up and coming let alone an established coordinator to come to Neb - one could probably cash some nice checks though
 

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dabo when he hired chad morris as OC and had kevin steele as DC had a 15-12 (.555) record with 2 bowls games in 2 years before winning a conf title in year 3

if that is a "very, very weak resume" what is a 11-20 (.366) record with zero bowl games? It would likely be professional suicide for an up and coming let alone an established coordinator to come to Neb - one could probably cash some nice checks though
Professional suicide. Give me a break. They can come in and have success, you know do a good job.

And Dabo was 19-15, coming off a losing season and firmly on the hot seat. It is a very good example that even you should be able to comprehend.
 

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And Dabo was 19-15, coming off a losing season and firmly on the hot seat. It is a very good example that even you should be able to comprehend.

There isn’t a world in existence whereby comparing anything related to Scott Frost and Dabo could be cited as a good example - even by the most delusional
 

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There isn’t a world in existence whereby comparing anything related to Scott Frost and Dabo could be cited as a good example - even by the most delusional

Are you really this stupid? Or do you not have an argument, so you instead spit out crap like this?

Dabo was on the hot seat. He had no prior HC experience. Yet, they still attracted top flight coordinators to come to Clemson. That is the entire comparison.
 

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Are you really this stupid. Dabo was on the hot seat. He had no prior HC experience. Yet, they still attracted top flight coordinators to come to Clemson. That is the entire comparison.

Scott Frost decided he needed an upgrade at OC and WR coach to replace Walters and after sifting through all the top notch assistants that were begging to coach at Neb he went with the guy who was currently employed at a credit union somewhere in Colorado - genius
 

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Scott Frost decided he needed an upgrade at OC and WR coach to replace Walters and after sifting through all the top notch assistants that were begging to coach at Neb he went with the guy who was currently employed at a credit union somewhere in Colorado
So, yes you are this stupid. Thanks.
 

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I’m open minded and look forward to tracking your example comparing Frost and Dabo
It’s my fault, I knew better than to try to talk football with you, but I did it anyway. Stupid, stupid mistake. Won’t happen again.
 

jlb321_rivals110621

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It’s my fault, I knew better than to try to talk football with you, but I did it anyway. Stupid, stupid mistake. Won’t happen again.

let’s talk football - Dabo (your comparison not mine) decided he needed a change at OC and within 3 years that OC was a head coach at SMU and then named head coach at a SEC school and when fired landed as an OC at another SEC school

will be interesting to compare Lubricks rise through the coaching ranks after being hand picked by Frost
 

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let’s talk football - Dabo (your comparison not mine) decided he needed a change at OC and within 3 years that OC was a head coach at SMU and then named head coach at a SEC school and when fired landed as an OC at another SEC school

will be interesting to compare Lubricks rise through the coaching ranks after signing on with Frost

My assertion was that we need to hire big time coordinators, especially on offense if Frost hopes to turn this around. No one but you would find that controversial. You said that is impossible, as Frost has a bad record at Nebraska. I never said Lubick was that guy, that is all you. In fact, I have been very clear in stating we need to get a play calling OC.
 

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My assertion was that we need to hire big time coordinators, especially on offense if Frost hopes to turn this around. No one but you would find that controversial. You said that is impossible, as Frost has a bad record at Nebraska. I never said Lubick was that guy, that is all you. In fact, I have been very clear in stating we need to get a play calling OC.

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My assertion is that big time coordinators aren’t going to come to Neb or work for a head coach that is in over his head - Frost already had a chance to hire a big time coordinator and after an exhaustive search of credit unions across the globe he chose Lubrick - let’s see how big time Lubrick turns out to be
 
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My assertion is that big time coordinators aren’t going to come to Neb or work for a head coach that is in over his head - Frost already had a chance to hire a big time coordinator and after an exhaustive search of credit unions across the globe he chose Lubrick - let’s see how big time Lubrick turns out to be
 

oldjar07

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Scott Frost decided he needed an upgrade at OC and WR coach to replace Walters and after sifting through all the top notch assistants that were begging to coach at Neb he went with the guy who was currently employed at a credit union somewhere in Colorado - genius
He had 20 years of coaching experience before taking a year-long break from coaching, so give that a rest. I haven't been impressed with Lubbick so far, but what he did before NU isn't an issue.
 

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My assertion was that we need to hire big time coordinators, especially on offense if Frost hopes to turn this around. No one but you would find that controversial. You said that is impossible, as Frost has a bad record at Nebraska. I never said Lubick was that guy, that is all you. In fact, I have been very clear in stating we need to get a play calling OC.
I struggle to agree with jlb321 but he is dead on. What successful OC or DC is going to come here knowing Frosts record after 3 years. There are few Diacos out there and I still think they snowed him into believing he could succeed Riley.
You need to read Butch Cassidys thread about underperforming past B1G coaches. In the past 25 or so years Frosts winning % is 4th worst after 3 years. The most sobering fact is if they failed to show marked improvement (8 wins or more)
in year 4 they never did win and never survived at that school.
 

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He had 20 years of coaching experience before taking a year-long break from coaching, so give that a rest. I haven't been impressed with Lubbick so far, but what he did before NU isn't an issue.

super ... now that he has hitched his wagon to Frost and Neb I look forward to his meteoric rise amongst the coaching ranks

what he has done for the offense and in the WR room specifically has been nothing short of miraculous
 
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I was ridiculed by many on here when I asked what QBs Mario has coached. To me he has always been like the career college professor. Has a doctorate, has never held a job outside of a university, and can teach theory all day long. Just doesn't have the practical and real world experience.

Again, not to continue the QB bashing, but I have said since the day Frost was hired, this offense works best with a mobile QB not a running QB. You have to have a guy who can throw the ball with accuracy but can keep the defense honest with his legs (8-10 rushes per game, includes sacks, NOT 15-18 rushes per game). Many on here blame the WRs but much of the problem is that the QBs do not throw the WR open. There is no anticipation of where the WR is going to be, just where he is. Martinez has no pocket awareness, doesn't feel pressure and has no internal clock where he decides to run or throw the ball away and not take a hit.

Anyway. Happy Holidays to you all. Be well.
 

donahues17

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He shut down Penn State's best receiver who is likely an early round talent. He's consistently done very well covering the other team's best receiver. As for the ejection, the qb ducked his head right into him. Not much CTB could do about it. If it's not called on the field, it shouldn't be reviewable by the booth. Dumbest rule in all of sports.

If he wouldnt be looking at the ground every time he tries tackling someone then it wouldnt have been called. If you are dumb enough (many Husker defenders do it so it is being taught) to stare at the ground and lead with your helmet then you deserve to get booted. Learn how to tackle. They teach that **** in 4th grade
 
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And how many of those young players have one foot out the door?

Either way, Atleast on offense we are not seeing many young players do much. The offensive genius won’t get Betts involved outside of 1 sweep play a game.

But, every Big Ten team has young talent. Luckily for them, most have competent coaches as well.
One exception is Wandale Robinson, very big heart in a small body.
 

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What is with the infatuation of CTB? The kid has 1 freaking interception in his college career. He very rarely wraps up to make a tackle and he has been ejected from 2 games for being a dumbass who cant tackle properly. Sure he can jump and knock a ball down on occasion but he is nothing special.

You must not watch very much football. Ok, yes he has 1 pick, but he has a ton of PBU's and has shut down some elite WR's. His earlier targetting was dumb, that can happen to anyone. The one against Minnesota was ****. He made a good hit and it sucks that his helmet hit Morgan's helmet. I don't know what else you want the kid to do? I don't know if you played or not, but there is a lot of split second stuff that happens and it isn't as easy to control these outcomes as our fans sitting on their couches think it is. CTB is a really good football player and to say otherwise is comical.
 

donahues17

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A good hit? Get out of here. The entire groupnof DBs look stupid trying to tackle with their heads down and just diving in. When you tackle like that and cant see where you are hitting the person, you are going to get called for it. I know the refs just hate Nebraska. No thats not it at all, Nebraska just don't teach how to tackle properly. If he had his head up and even hit him with the face mask he wouldn't have been booted. You watch that play agains and you see another Husker wannabe tackler come flying across with his head down too thinking he was going to make a tackle. But he couldn't see what he was aiming at either so he completely missed and made himself look like an idiot. Yes CTB had a good game against Purdue.
 

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Scott Frost decided he needed an upgrade at OC and WR coach to replace Walters and after sifting through all the top notch assistants that were begging to coach at Neb he went with the guy who was currently employed at a credit union somewhere in Colorado - genius
Who were these coaches begging to come here?
 

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I can’t see him going after anybody. He’s married to AMart. I would be extremely shocked to see him bring in a grad transfer although we all know that is what needs to be done.
Well then it's time to hire a divorce attorney.
 

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I was being sarcastic, not always easy to convey that in text.
I figured as much. But even if Frost makes dumb comments like MV is the best QB on Earth, he doesn’t have to double down on it. Admit your mistake, when provided with new evidence, and move on. Huge pet peeve of mine are people that refuse to change and adapt, or admit when they made a mistake.
 

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I figured as much. But even if Frost makes dumb comments like MV is the best QB on Earth, he doesn’t have to double down on it. Admit your mistake, when provided with new evidence, and move on. Huge pet peeve of mine are people that refuse to change and adapt, or admit when they made a mistake.
I find that those in positions of power rarely make public apologies. At the same time, and more importantly, making changes is the apology that matters most.
 

oldjar07

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A good hit? Get out of here. The entire groupnof DBs look stupid trying to tackle with their heads down and just diving in. When you tackle like that and cant see where you are hitting the person, you are going to get called for it. I know the refs just hate Nebraska. No thats not it at all, Nebraska just don't teach how to tackle properly. If he had his head up and even hit him with the face mask he wouldn't have been booted. You watch that play agains and you see another Husker wannabe tackler come flying across with his head down too thinking he was going to make a tackle. But he couldn't see what he was aiming at either so he completely missed and made himself look like an idiot. Yes CTB had a good game against Purdue.
CTB did exactly what you wanted him to. He had his head up and made the tackle. Minnesota's qb lowered his head right into him.
 

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Yep . Just because they are young doesn’t mean that they will get better. Just look at our seniors today. Other than Stille, has anyone really improved?
Heard a former Husker O-lineman with NFL experience say the other day that Jaimes hasn't improved much since his freshmen year.

I tend to agree with you. Our guys might be getting better physically but if the execution is poor and mental mistakes continue with similar frequency, what difference does that make?
 

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I have a perfect photo of it be cant upload it for some reason. I cant believe how Husker fans have become so ignorant when it comes to football. People cant even be honest with themselves anymore.