Sharp projected Top 10 in Draft

ZZBlueComet

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I have a million quuestions
1. Does Sharpe want to play?
2. Is He getting paid now (NIL)?
3. Why would Cal keep him on the bench, if he's not going to play?
4. As a fan, do you feel used if Sharpe is getting paid now and has no plans playing here?
5. If he leaves, does Mitch step in and say no more of this?
 

mebeblue2

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Kids? I hate this statement. Someone, over 18, is here making a ton of NIL money and may be a multi-millionaire in a few months - and use the term "kid".
agreed my son went to the Army at 18
he was not considered a kid otherwise they would not have taken him
 

STL_Cat

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We've been told for a decade here "a kid would have to be an idiot to come back to college if he's projected in the lottery or even the 1st round and you're selfish for even suggesting he should consider it" and now we have posters rationalizing the difference between #10 and #1 lol. Okay bruhs.

If he doesn't play here this year he isn't playing here. Accept it. He won't play against Kansas because "you can't put him in there for his first college game in that environment!" Better get him in against Vandy.
 

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Cal’s track record of developing one year players for the NBA must certainly weigh into Sharpe’s decision. It is possible that him and his handlers are taking a calculated approach to his future that spans 20 years, not just one contract. He would be top 10 right now, but top 2-3 the following year with a year of higher level basketball and Zion-ish hype going into the NBA will better posture him for early success and from a career earnings perspective.
 

ck-2

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I have a million quuestions
1. Does Sharpe want to play?
2. Is He getting paid now (NIL)?
3. Why would Cal keep him on the bench, if he's not going to play?
4. As a fan, do you feel used if Sharpe is getting paid now and has no plans playing here?
5. If he leaves, does Mitch step in and say no more of this?
#4) Yes if that happens.
#5) Mitch is a gelding. He has been neutered as to any control over Cal. He just signs the checks and keeps the pay raises coming.
 

BigBlueFanGA

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Cal’s track record of developing one year players for the NBA must certainly weigh into Sharpe’s decision. It is possible that him and his handlers are taking a calculated approach to his future that spans 20 years, not just one contract. He would be top 10 right now, but top 2-3 the following year with a year of higher level basketball and Zion-ish hype going into the NBA will better posture him for early success and from a career earnings perspective.
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mebeblue2

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Ok, I'll bite again. So, how much is Sharpe earning from NIL?
i am not sure it has been revealed

just by looking/reading/listening to things here is what i think (could be right, could be wrong)

it has been posted that SS may be the first College player that gets a major shoe deal
if so which shoe company do you think he will sign with?

now is where it starts getting interesting
with K retiring UK/Cal will be the biggest face of NIKE
is it more advantageous for NIKE if SS plays a full season at UK or never/barely sees the floor in half a season?

this brings me back to why did he give up 4 million (as being reported. not sure if accurate) to sit on the bench at UK
i do believe that unless he plays this year and dominates he will be back next year

this is just my opinion and theory
 

STL_Cat

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i am not sure it has been revealed

just by looking/reading/listening to things here is what i think (could be right, could be wrong)

it has been posted that SS may be the first College player that gets a major shoe deal
if so which shoe company do you think he will sign with?

now is where it starts getting interesting
with K retiring UK/Cal will be the biggest face of NIKE
is it more advantageous for NIKE if SS plays a full season at UK or never/barely sees the floor in half a season?

this brings me back to why did he give up 4 million (as being reported. not sure if accurate) to sit on the bench at UK
i do believe that unless he plays this year and dominates he will be back next year

this is just my opinion and theory
We'll see. I think you're super naïve for believing he might come back next year, but time will tell.
 

BigBlueFanGA

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i am not sure it has been revealed

just by looking/reading/listening to things here is what i think (could be right, could be wrong)

it has been posted that SS may be the first College player that gets a major shoe deal
if so which shoe company do you think he will sign with?

now is where it starts getting interesting
with K retiring UK/Cal will be the biggest face of NIKE
is it more advantageous for NIKE if SS plays a full season at UK or never/barely sees the floor in half a season?

this brings me back to why did he give up 4 million (as being reported. not sure if accurate) to sit on the bench at UK
i do believe that unless he plays this year and dominates he will be back next year

this is just my opinion and theory
I do want to make sure you understand this part. He didn't turn down a 4Mish contract. His handler said most pro avenues reached out to him. I'm sure he turned down 4 1M contracts and I don't blame him. He has visibility just sitting on our bench. No one cares about any of those other leagues. That was a smart business decision. I believe he'll make another smart business decision in May.
 

mebeblue2

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We'll see. I think you're super naïve for believing he might come back next year, but time will tell.
no doubt time will tell
if he returns how many will admit that they could not see the forest because of the trees
 

BigBlueFanGA

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no doubt time will tell
if he returns how many will admit that they could not see the forest because of the trees
I will and I'll shake my head in disbelief. Going sooner gets him to a max, or large, contract a year sooner. That is important because these guys have an expiration date. His body isn't counting only his NBA years, it's already counting the years and he only has so many. Waiting a year effectively shortens his NBA career by a year and that would likely be a large contract by then.

That is my main reason for not believing for a second that he will return.
 

behhpp

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His mentor stated he wanted to return next year to become the number 1 pick. Call me naïve but I’m going to take him at his word and hold out hope that he comes back.
 

mebeblue2

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I do want to make sure you understand this part. He didn't turn down a 4Mish contract. His handler said most pro avenues reached out to him. I'm sure he turned down 4 1M contracts and I don't blame him. He has visibility just sitting on our bench. No one cares about any of those other leagues. That was a smart business decision. I believe he'll make another smart business decision in May.
that is still turning the money down
it was offered, he chose to sit on the bench at UK
 
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mebeblue2

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I will and I'll shake my head in disbelief. Going sooner gets him to a max, or large, contract a year sooner. That is important because these guys have an expiration date. His body isn't counting only his NBA years, it's already counting the years and he only has so many. Waiting a year effectively shortens his NBA career by a year and that would likely be a large contract by then.

That is my main reason for not believing for a second that he will return.
i do not follow the NBA, nut with the way max contacts are going it may be an advantage to wait a year
think of the guys that signed the year before they skyrocketed. how much money did they lose
 

Runt#1969

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For a young man that hasn't played a minute of college basketball and he's PROJECTED higher than TyTy already?

I'm going to have to see that on the court, personally. If he really is that good, you put him into the lineup, dammit. No brainer.

But sit him out the year, and he doesn't go into the draft to come back next year to play a year for us.... that's Cal's plan. Apparently... ? I'm getting old and absent minded, but I thought the point of bringing a player in mid way thru the season is to get him reps and up to speed and practicing as soon as possible with an emphasis on getting him into the game THIS YEAR, as opposed to what happens for next year.

but that's just me.

I have no clue if Cal seriously KNOWS no matter how he's projected to draft, that he would come back to play next year regardless. And that, of course, is holding him off THIS team completely the rest of the way this year.

But hey, what matters what I think.

I don't understand so many things.

there is no logic, it seems at all.

Maybe the best thing for the young man is to just go ahead and get drafted if he's projected that high anyway. Why even try to play a minute in college if all you want to do is draw the paycheck. Coming to Kentucky to have a chance to get drafted number 1 would be the ONLY way you could really improve. right?

And therein would lie the crux of the matter? I guess....

Sit this year out. Play next year for UK.
get drafted #1

I'd be fine with that, but why can't it be

play this year. Show them all how legit you are.
still only projected top 10? come back
play the year out and then get drafted #1
you've improved everything to the max, then, according to plan, right?

who knows how this drama ends up, though... I'm lost enough already

- semi runtrant /off
 

mebeblue2

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On that subject, Cal is the most stubborn man on the planet. He has never changed anything.
i can't argue on him being stubborn
but he is changing just look at this years team
Cal is a smart man he knows he had to make some changes

reading this thread a few posters on here would give Cal a run for his money on being stubborn and believing anything that is not their opinion
 
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I can't imagine that if Sharpe is projected to go where he's going in the NBA draft that he would ever think about coming back next year.

At the same rate, everyone is different. It seems like both Cal and Sharpe's camp realized him being eligible for the draft was at least a possibility and yet his camp has been firmly in the "we are going to wait and he's going to play at UK next year" stance.

While I think it's unlikely. Who knows for sure. Like I said, sometimes people are just different and do things that you wouldn't otherwise expect them to.

Why would a major big time recruit go to a non blueblood or non popular basketball school? Yet some do.

I hope Sharpe plays this season. If not, then next year. But I think I'll just watch my current basketball team and see what happens in the future.

I think that some are so focused on this that they are missing out on a pretty good basketball team even without him.
 
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AGEE11

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I have a million quuestions
1. Does Sharpe want to play?
2. Is He getting paid now (NIL)?
3. Why would Cal keep him on the bench, if he's not going to play?
4. As a fan, do you feel used if Sharpe is getting paid now and has no plans playing here?
5. If he leaves, does Mitch step in and say no more of this?

1 - no idea
2 - yes, Solesomething another and the car dealership TtTy got too
3 - Who says no to the #1 recruit???
4 - no, cost me nothing and we had an open scholarship. We lost NOTHING
5 - No, Mitch tried to head the basketball program once and we got BCG.

There is nothing Cal did wrong here. No coach in America says no to Sharpe. None of them
 
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TFCat11

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I have a million quuestions
1. Does Sharpe want to play?
2. Is He getting paid now (NIL)?
3. Why would Cal keep him on the bench, if he's not going to play?
4. As a fan, do you feel used if Sharpe is getting paid now and has no plans playing here?
5. If he leaves, does Mitch step in and say no more of this?
1. Not in college.
2. Yes.
3. Ego, and pissing off the most passionate of BBN.
4. Totally unacceptable.
5. Mitch and Cal should both leave. Mitch is 100% aware of what’s happening.

That’s my answers.
 
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BigCat241

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We've been told for a decade here "a kid would have to be an idiot to come back to college if he's projected in the lottery or even the 1st round and you're selfish for even suggesting he should consider it" and now we have posters rationalizing the difference between #10 and #1 lol. Okay bruhs.

If he doesn't play here this year he isn't playing here. Accept it. He won't play against Kansas because "you can't put him in there for his first college game in that environment!" Better get him in against Vandy.
I think he should go regardless even if he is projected 10, but it is a little misleading for you to act like situations are the same when you are talking about someone who is making millions while he is still in college due to NIL.
 

KingOfBBN

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You just have to laugh at where we are in sports. In a world where you're supposedly one of the best in the country yet you proceed with caution that you may be exposed and have your game dissected.

We can claim concern for injury but that can happen in a simple practice or workout. Doesn't have anything to do with playing against another team.
 

STL_Cat

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no doubt time will tell
if he returns how many will admit that they could not see the forest because of the trees
I'll be absolutely shocked and the FIRST to say holy hell I was wrong and LFG in 2022-2023. I'm a Kentucky fan remember. I WANT Sharpe to be here next year.
I think he should go regardless even if he is projected 10, but it is a little misleading for you to act like situations are the same when you are talking about someone who is making millions while he is still in college due to NIL.
You guys are rationalizing this NIL thing. The whole reason people say you should go early because you get to that 2nd contact sooner and that's where you make the real money. NIL pales in comparison to the 2nd NBA contract, it's not close. We've been told for years you don't go early because of the 1st contract, you go early because of the 2nd. NIL doesn't mitigate that.
 

mebeblue2

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I'll be absolutely shocked and the FIRST to say holy hell I was wrong and LFG in 2022-2023. I'm a Kentucky fan remember. I WANT Sharpe to be here next year.

You guys are rationalizing this NIL thing. The whole reason people say you should go early because you get to that 2nd contact sooner and that's where you make the real money. NIL pales in comparison to the 2nd NBA contract, it's not close. We've been told for years you don't go early because of the 1st contract, you go early because of the 2nd. NIL doesn't mitigate that.
i have never doubted the fact you have blue blood
 
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BigCat241

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I'll be absolutely shocked and the FIRST to say holy hell I was wrong and LFG in 2022-2023. I'm a Kentucky fan remember. I WANT Sharpe to be here next year.

You guys are rationalizing this NIL thing. The whole reason people say you should go early because you get to that 2nd contact sooner and that's where you make the real money. NIL pales in comparison to the 2nd NBA contract, it's not close. We've been told for years you don't go early because of the 1st contract, you go early because of the 2nd. NIL doesn't mitigate that.
I feel like that logic with the 2nd contract and stuff was used by a very small minority though and the more prevailing thought was they just wanted to get to the $$$ faster period.
 

TFCat11

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There is nothing Cal did wrong here. No coach in America says no to Sharpe. None of them
Saying no to SS committing to UK , and saying no to SS committing to UK, arriving early, saying he is playing next season, sitting the bench, using the UK brand, and exiting without playing one single minute, IS TWO TOTALLY DIFFERENT ANIMALS!

Not one coach, not K, not Self, not Pearl, not Pitino, no other coach other than one John V. Calipari would even consider such ridiculous BS!

And that is why SS is sitting on the UK bench, and not anywhere else.