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anon_ivydyf0amkzay

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Everyone on this forum should join.

Would be nice if NIL could be weaved in with the subscription of Rivals or 247.
LOL…because so many hardworking folks want to give money earmarked for high schoolers just so they can join your athletic department only to leave when a better deal comes around. More power to them and god bless if they can make $$ from it, but most people can think of hundreds of better ways to dispose of their money!

…but hey knock yourself out! 🤣
 

RUBlackout7

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LOL…because so many hardworking folks want to give money earmarked for high schoolers just so they can join your athletic department only to leave when a better deal comes around. More power to them and god bless if they can make $$ from it, but most people can think of hundreds of better ways to dispose of their money!

…but hey knock yourself out! 🤣
So people can afford to pay $10 a month for this site to read about high schooler’s mood swings, but they can’t pay $10 a month to actually help improve our athletic programs?

You’re either incredibly cheap, poor, or just don’t care that much about seeing RU win.
 
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anon_0k9zlfz6lz9oy

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Asking people to donate $100 a month, on top of tickets , seat fees & minimum donation amounts, is not a realistic goal.
Everyone should just put forward what they feel comfortable with whether that be $0, $10, $25, $100 or $10,000/month.

the way I see it is im already paying about $3K a season. So if I was told I can pay $3K for 4-8 or $4200 for 10-2 and legitimately competing for CFP births? Its a no brainer.

for me I’m committed now for $100/month and then I’ll donate additional lump sums along the way.

also keep in mind if a head of account has 4 tix and its 4 friends sharing the tix thats just $25/month for each of the 4. I imagine most ru grads have $25/month to spare
 
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Jtung230

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LOL…because so many hardworking folks want to give money earmarked for high schoolers just so they can join your athletic department only to leave when a better deal comes around. More power to them and god bless if they can make $$ from it, but most people can think of hundreds of better ways to dispose of their money!

…but hey knock yourself out! 🤣
We get it. You don’t want to give any money. No one is forcing you to. But don’t get why you are trying to get others to not give their money? hardworking people can do what they want with their money. Maybe you’ll enjoy a different topic thread.
 

Knight Shift

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We get it. You don’t want to give any money. No one is forcing you to. But don’t get why you are trying to get others to not give their money? hardworking people can do what they want with their money. Maybe you’ll enjoy a different topic thread.
FOMO, is my guess. 😏
$100/month is not a ton of money when put in perspective.
Some people may get a cup of coffee every day. $3/day. That's $90/month.
Skip the coffee, support Rutgers.
 

RUforlife

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Simply put you need 10,000 people to write a check for $1,000 every year and then you have to pray to God that Penn State, Ohio State, Michigan, Michigan State, Indiana, and Maryland don't each find 10,000 people to write a check for $2,000 every year. You see where this is going and why most Rutgers alumni and fans aren't that stupid to invest in this craziness, it is a no win scenario, there will always be multiple teams in our division, let alone conference, that will easily be able to out raise us 2, 3, 4, maybe even 5 to 1. My recommendation, save your money on football and invest in basketball where two or three kids can make a difference and we have a real chance to actually be relevant on a national level.
 

dollarbill

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Lots of great scenarios and proposals here. The numbers, however, won't lie. They will come out. $$$$
 

Scarlet83

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LOL…because so many hardworking folks want to give money earmarked for high schoolers just so they can join your athletic department only to leave when a better deal comes around. More power to them and god bless if they can make $$ from it, but most people can think of hundreds of better ways to dispose of their money!

…but hey knock yourself out! 🤣
No one is putting down the spending choices you make. Why do you feel you need to throw shade on how others choose to spend their hard earned money?

Also, ZERO nil dollars from Knights of The Raritan has gone to high schoolers. ALL of the NIL money has gone to high performing Rutgers upperclassman. So that part of your argument is total BS.

Sometimes saying (or posting) nothing is clearly the best choice.
 
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RUnTeX

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We get it. You don’t want to give any money. No one is forcing you to. But don’t get why you are trying to get others to not give their money? hardworking people can do what they want with their money. Maybe you’ll enjoy a different topic thread.

No one is putting down the spending choices you make. Why do you feel you need to throw shade on how others choose to spend their hard earned money?

Sometimes saying nothing is the best choice.

What more can be expected from the resident TAMU fan? The arrogance attempts to hide the inferiority complex.
 
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PSU_Nut_rivals17625

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So people can afford to pay $10 a month for this site to read about high schooler’s mood swings, but they can’t pay $10 a month to actually help improve our athletic programs?

You’re either incredibly cheap, poor, or just don’t care that much about seeing RU win.
Would you give "INSERT NAME OF FAVORITE NFL TEAM" $10 a month to help them win? I would support scholarships and facilities but when we start making teenagers millionaires I and many others draw the line. I can justify tickets or website because I am getting an entertainment value out of it.
 

Scarlet16e2

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We get it. You don’t want to give any money. No one is forcing you to. But don’t get why you are trying to get others to not give their money? hardworking people can do what they want with their money. Maybe you’ll enjoy a different topic thread.
Just a philosophical difference.
that’s all.
 

RUforlife

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It is one thing to donate money to help build an athletic facility on campus or fund a scholarship, but why would anybody actually be advocating that a fan donate directly to a fund that will help make a player and his family millionaires? Not only that, but the player is not even under contract to play for you for x amount of years, he can take your money and then transfer to another university and take their money next year. Maybe it is just me, but I wasn't put on this planet to work and take money out of my own family's pocket to give to an 18-22 year old so he can buy a Mercedes, fancy clothes, plenty of bling and whatever other material items just so on a fall Saturday I can have bragging rights over another school's football fans for a year. Makes no sense to me.
 

RUforlife

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Didn't do a monthly, but did a one time equivalent of a $25 per month. Figured i skip/go lean on a couple of hobbies.

I know I don't move a needle, but 1000 of me might....
I hope you at least get a ride in a players new Mercedes for that money, but I am guessing the best you will be able to do is look at it in the parking lot and then go load the family in some crappy SUV and go home.
 

zappaa

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It is one thing to donate money to help build an athletic facility on campus or fund a scholarship, but why would anybody actually be advocating that a fan donate directly to a fund that will help make a player and his family millionaires? Not only that, but the player is not even under contract to play for you for x amount of years, he can take your money and then transfer to another university and take their money next year. Maybe it is just me, but I wasn't put on this planet to work and take money out of my own family's pocket to give to an 18-22 year old so he can buy a Mercedes, fancy clothes, plenty of bling and whatever other material items just so on a fall Saturday I can have bragging rights over another school's football fans for a year. Makes no sense to me.
You’re going to hear nothing has changed it’s just out in the open.
Of course we know that’s a bunch of hogwash.
Never thought I’d see the day where coaches were outwardly soliciting the fanbase for money, especially in difficult economic times.
It must be very hard for GS.
Money goals and donations in the past were between you and your Rutgers liaison
 
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anon_0k9zlfz6lz9oy

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Would you give "INSERT NAME OF FAVORITE NFL TEAM" $10 a month to help them win? I would support scholarships and facilities but when we start making teenagers millionaires I and many others draw the line. I can justify tickets or website because I am getting an entertainment value out of it.
The way I see it is I spend about $3K between season tix, parking, tailgates, concessions. I’d rather spend $4200 to watch a title contender than $3K to watch 4-8. and if that means these kids become billionaires i really dont care. All i care about is winning.
 
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anon_0k9zlfz6lz9oy

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It is one thing to donate money to help build an athletic facility on campus or fund a scholarship, but why would anybody actually be advocating that a fan donate directly to a fund that will help make a player and his family millionaires? Not only that, but the player is not even under contract to play for you for x amount of years, he can take your money and then transfer to another university and take their money next year. Maybe it is just me, but I wasn't put on this planet to work and take money out of my own family's pocket to give to an 18-22 year old so he can buy a Mercedes, fancy clothes, plenty of bling and whatever other material items just so on a fall Saturday I can have bragging rights over another school's football fans for a year. Makes no sense to me.
I agree with your premise, everyone knows im not a fan of the concept of NIL. However, im also a realist and its here and we must do it to compete. If it results in these kids buying stupid **** or becoming millionaires, i personally dont care if it also results in us winning. And again, not everyone will be able to change their mind like me and be realistic and recognize its a necessary evil in 2022 and thats fine. But any little bit helps. Whether that be $25/month, $100/month or $1,000/month. I think its worth considering but again all your choice
 

Jtung230

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You’re going to hear nothing has changed it’s just out in the open.
Of course we know that’s a bunch of hogwash.
Never thought I’d see the day where coaches were outwardly soliciting the fanbase for money, especially in difficult economic times.
It must be very hard for GS.
Money goals and donations in the past were between you and your Rutgers liaison
I was going to say the opposite. Coaches always solicit money for donations to schools. Now, the changes with NIL means there are two avenues how donations can help. @RUforlife, why shouldn’t the kids get a piece of the pie. Why is it ok for coaches and schools to get millions from the game these kids play.
 

zappaa

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The way I see it is I spend about $3K between season tix, parking, tailgates, concessions. I’d rather spend $4200 to watch a title contender than $3K to watch 4-8. and if that means these kids become billionaires i really dont care. All i care about is winning.
What’s interesting is $1,200.00 donation would barely get you a return call from your season tickets, parking and donations liason a few years ago
 

zappaa

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I was going to say the opposite. Coaches always solicit money for donations to schools. Now, the changes with NIL means there are two avenues how donations can help. @RUforlife, why shouldn’t the kids get a piece of the pie. Why is it ok for coaches and schools to get millions from the game these kids play.
Coaches thanked you in the past, never solicited.
If your a BIG wheel, you got a seat at the table and shmoozed by the coaches.
They never solicited
 

Jtung230

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Coaches thanked you in the past, never solicited.
If your a BIG wheel, you got a seat at the table and shmoozed by the coaches.
They never solicited
See the speech GS made at the RAC when he was hired. He asked for money.
 

Frida's Boss

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It is one thing to donate money to help build an athletic facility on campus or fund a scholarship, but why would anybody actually be advocating that a fan donate directly to a fund that will help make a player and his family millionaires? Not only that, but the player is not even under contract to play for you for x amount of years, he can take your money and then transfer to another university and take their money next year. Maybe it is just me, but I wasn't put on this planet to work and take money out of my own family's pocket to give to an 18-22 year old so he can buy a Mercedes, fancy clothes, plenty of bling and whatever other material items just so on a fall Saturday I can have bragging rights over another school's football fans for a year. Makes no sense to me.

I won’t donate to NIL, but come at it from a different point of view. Personally, I’m not offended that these kids sought and will receive compensation. I suspect we’ll see some conspicuous consumption but we’ll also hear of kids saving the money and buying a home or starting a business. Either way, I don’t fault them for seeking compensation.

That said, the allure of college sports from an alumni perspective (at least my own) is connection. Connection to the school, and to the student athletes competing. At some level, everyone chose Rutgers. Granted, the variables may be different, but some combination of factors led to a voluntary, uncompensated decision to enroll at the school. I took pride that Schiano’s teams attended classes and avoided off the field trouble, for the most part. I’d rather have that kind of team with mediocre results year in and year out than outstanding on the field results but with the baggage of, for example, Penn State.

Pay for play combined with annual free agency changes that relationship. Now, the athletes are for hire employees more than fellow students. Yes, that’s reality and you can accept it and contribute or not. I choose not to contribute, not because I fault the kids for getting paid but because the fundamental relationship is now changed and I don’t want to be part of the new relationship.

I suspect I’ll watch the upcoming season as always, but if Schiano’s forecast of developed players leaving for more money elsewhere proves true, that’ll be it for me.
 

bac2therac

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It is one thing to donate money to help build an athletic facility on campus or fund a scholarship, but why would anybody actually be advocating that a fan donate directly to a fund that will help make a player and his family millionaires? Not only that, but the player is not even under contract to play for you for x amount of years, he can take your money and then transfer to another university and take their money next year. Maybe it is just me, but I wasn't put on this planet to work and take money out of my own family's pocket to give to an 18-22 year old so he can buy a Mercedes, fancy clothes, plenty of bling and whatever other material items just so on a fall Saturday I can have bragging rights over another school's football fans for a year. Makes no sense to me.

Well said
 

Jtung230

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I won’t donate to NIL, but come at it from a different point of view. Personally, I’m not offended that these kids sought and will receive compensation. I suspect we’ll see some conspicuous consumption but we’ll also hear of kids saving the money and buying a home or starting a business. Either way, I don’t fault them for seeking compensation.

That said, the allure of college sports from an alumni perspective (at least my own) is connection. Connection to the school, and to the student athletes competing. At some level, everyone chose Rutgers. Granted, the variables may be different, but some combination of factors led to a voluntary, uncompensated decision to enroll at the school. I took pride that Schiano’s teams attended classes and avoided off the field trouble, for the most part. I’d rather have that kind of team with mediocre results year in and year out than outstanding on the field results but with the baggage of, for example, Penn State.

Pay for play combined with annual free agency changes that relationship. Now, the athletes are for hire employees more than fellow students. Yes, that’s reality and you can accept it and contribute or not. I choose not to contribute, not because I fault the kids for getting paid but because the fundamental relationship is now changed and I don’t want to be part of the new relationship.

I suspect I’ll watch the upcoming season as always, but if Schiano’s forecast of developed players leaving for more money elsewhere proves true, that’ll be it for me.
It’s already happening. See Jonah Jackson. We can pretend it’s not happening.
 

Plum Street

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The attitude of some “fans” is ridiculous giving excuses to not support the program . Or saying they are done . I get it , NIL sucks . But it’s here and that’s the reality of the situation . True fans understand.
And if you’re really done , please just be done. We don’t need the negative ongoing posts telling us why you’re done. Trust me , Rutgers and big time football will survive without you . Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
 
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zappaa

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It’s already happening. See Jonah Jackson. We can pretend it’s not happening.
Grad transfer was Jackson.
And who said it’s not happening!
Free agent, highest bidder, tampering, no sitting out portal is absolutely happening
 

Plum Street

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The way I see it is I spend about $3K between season tix, parking, tailgates, concessions. I’d rather spend $4200 to watch a title contender than $3K to watch 4-8. and if that means these kids become billionaires i really dont care. All i care about is winning.
Well said . If people can afford the tickets and extravagant tailgates to watch a loser , they can afford to donate to get a winner
 

yesrutgers01

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Here is the thing- we get it, and understand that NIL is now a part of college sports. And I could get behind it if it was actually being used as intended.
If I had a local business that would benefit from the money I would spend as “advertisement” I would 100% give a NIL contract to a player or two.
but, the way it is being handled around all colleges, I just can’t do it.
it may be different if I knew exactly who or what my money was earmarked for. What business is going to be backing the NIl, etc.

I do appreciate that others are doing this though but it isn’t fair to knock anyone that isn’t. If $10, $100, $200 a month is no big deal, then why hasn’t everyone just spent that extra money each year for better seats or just donated more?
As a fan, my $10 for rivals, extra for tickets, parking, food etc is really all that any fan should be expected to do.