Wait, he thinks tempting recruits with hookers arranged and paid for by 2 members of the staff and a booster - over several years, will only get them 1 more year of a ban, the loss of 3 scollies and Pimptino only gets a half year suspension? That would be outrageous.
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Chuck Smrt was the NCAA's chief investigator for years. He wouldn't leave KC to go to Naptown when the NCAA moved here but he has lots of friends and credibility inside the NCAA. You can bet he has or will find out what happened. In all likelihood the money came from one of their big donors who McGee knew from being around the program so long. I think Louisville will receive an additional penalty. The least will be a Boeheim 10 game suspension, The most will be another year end tourney ban plus some TV bans. I am positive that McGee got the money from a major donor whom Smrt probably has identified,
We also know this was still going on after Masiello was gone and Andre was gone. So who was running the "show" then?
Heard over the weekend from a very reliable source who frequently dines with some UL bigwigs down at Jeff Ruby's that Pitino is waiting to see what happens with Ramsey. He says if Ramsey stays, Pitino is 100% gone. The only way he stays is if Ramsey leaves; forced out or on his own. Ramsey doesn't seem very inclined to want to leave but there may be things working behind the scenes to force him out with a package. Guess it depends on whom they value more, Pitino or Ramsey.
guys guys..... stop it. Didnt you know this can hurt Pitino's health. This caused Jimmy V. to get sick but Pitino vows to not let this get him sick. We should admire Pitino's courage through all of this..... Its such a tough time for him..
NOT. God Pitino is such a scum bucket.
NOT. God Pitino is such a scum bucket.
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This JD Nichols guy does seem awfully shady
http://www.wdrb.com/story/29627103/...says-offer-to-fund-ramseys-pay-not-a-conflict
http://www.wdrb.com/story/29627103/...says-offer-to-fund-ramseys-pay-not-a-conflict
I think this is the right answer. Can you even imagine how much dirt exists at lil brothel? I mean they've already exceeded anything most sane people could even dream up.
Jurich would gladly part ways with Pitino if he could, but Ricky knows where the bodies are buried. I think he keeps going on Mike and Mike and holding these press conferences just to twist the knife and remind Jurich and the BOT that he could blow the lid off at any time. Remember, he's already threatened Emily Bingham and the BOT with the "glass house" comment, which was followed by a hasty retraction from the board. How could Bingham feel strongly enough to go to the CJ with that screed and then apologize two days later? It was obviously coerced through threats and blackmail.
As far a McGee goes, he may be keeping silent due to legal jeopardy. Lets not forget he's dead to rights arranging prostitution across state lines, possibly involving minors. To the poster saying the NCAA is meting out punishment based on guesswork; no, they have enough to bury UL already several times over based on accounts provided by multiple recruits.
ESPN ran 2 OTL's on this, one on selection Sunday. This will not be a slap on the wrist IMO, and UL will be considered cannon fodder if it means ignoring the corruption at UNC.
That sounds more like wishful thinking than anything. Ramsey staying should be a positive for Pitino, as Ramsey has allowed the utter madhouse that is UL athletics to operate rough-shed with Pitino/Petrino/Jurich leading the way. A new president would likely have to put a much higher importance on academics and may want Pitino gone no matter what.
In the end the NCAA will likely tell UL that they will get hit with Package A of penalties if they keep Pitino and Package B if they let him go. It will be up to UL to decide which is the better option. The fact that it's gone this far w/out Pitino being fired shows you how big a pile of **** that entire administration/board is. No other semi-respectable, let alone top-notch university, as UL likes to portray itself as, would have kept the man around after his first sex scandal, let alone another one.
Justin Lewallen has been wrong every step of the way. I have no doubt that he's being told stuff by someone, but I place zero credibility in anything he says.
On the flip-side, someone with whom I've been conversing lately claims to have friends at the NCAA...and given his nature, I suppose I believe him. Yesterday, his statement on UofL was "their *** is grass."
On the flip-side, someone with whom I've been conversing lately claims to have friends at the NCAA...and given his nature, I suppose I believe him. Yesterday, his statement on UofL was "their *** is grass."
If Steve Masiello was involved in whoregate, it wasn't for all that long. Katina's squirting reign at Minardi Hall was from 2010-14. Masiello left for Manhattan in 2011. Other assistants had to be involved.
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Normally, I would have agreed with you but they have had a serious falling out as you can likely tell by the way they have acted around each other with some subtle (and at times not so subtle) back-stabbing. You no longer hear about them supporting each other. Jurich is now their intermediary. Anyhow, take it for what it's worth. When I ran into my source, he had just left Jeff Ruby's where this was the dominant topic of conversation.
Why any doubt about the banner coming down?
If the NCAA finds that UL broke rules that would deem a player ineligible and that player participated in a game, the game would be forfeited. If all this stuff happened as presented and UL had players involved in a NC game, The game is a forfeit..
There is no deciding. The game is AUTOMATIC FORFEIT. No banner, no discussion. It is their rules.
If the NCAA finds that UL broke rules that would deem a player ineligible and that player participated in a game, the game would be forfeited. If all this stuff happened as presented and UL had players involved in a NC game, The game is a forfeit..
There is no deciding. The game is AUTOMATIC FORFEIT. No banner, no discussion. It is their rules.
I agree with you but the NCAA, when called on their inconsistency has literally said in writing that they "will not be bound by any precedent". Must be nice to be able to issue these kinds of fiats with impunity. They may as well have said "our darlings will be protected at all costs"
they will just rule it around the years of 2013 like they did with Syracuse so they can keep the banner.
Supposedly UL found out about the book in August. It is my guess this is when they paid McGee off to make him the fall guy. The news about the book did not hit until September or October so they had time to pay McGee to be the fall guy and keep his mouth shut before anybody was looking. I think this explains why RP was so brazen challenging McGee to come forward because he knew he would not do it because of the payoff.
The only thing the NCAA has shown any consistency with is their arrogant displays of doing what ever they want in spite of any directives that they want others to live by.
What message does it send to the ones who live by the rules and aspire to reach the top by the rules. The banner must come down if any players were involved.
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The FBI does. Money crossing state lines for illegal activity is a federal offense. (RICO)
If this story about the money is true then now we probably have tax fraud in the mix as I doubt that was reported on anyone's tax return. Also, any withdrawal of more than 10g cash must be reported so anyone speculating on how a payment this large could be made without being detected?
If the Feds were going to get involved, it has already happened/happening. The wire transfer (MO) has been reported in the mainstream. I imagine the FBI has alot on their plate these days for this to be important to them. A small staff probably investigates this stuff and are probably over loaded..
If any of the agencies investigating this crap have discovered that Pitino has paid McGee $200,000 dollars to not talk, there is no doubt that it would have been brought to light and he would have been fired by now.
Andre's exit from Louisville was orchestrated after 2014 season, prior to the 14-15 season. He went to work under Kareem Richardson at University of Missouri Kansas City. Katina Powel was well underway with her calls to the NCAA and UL already knew it would go public. Andre was without a doubt paid to shut up. But remember this, Andre gets his pockets filled to shut up and have no comment, and Pitino keeps saying to the media that Andre needs to speak up and tell the truth. Andre went from a great job at UL, to UMKC ??? lol. And now he if fired there and working for Uber, yet he remains quiet? Rick had Andre paid for sure, but as long as Andre remains quiet, if they find no money trail then its hard to prove. Any 3rd grader can clearly see that Andre, if innocent, should be swing haymakers at Rick and UL. But no, he is happy being slandered and working for Uber. Since they aren't cooperating with the NCAA in full, I expect the NCAA to hit them in the gut, loss of 5 schollies one year, 4, then 3, over a 3 year period. Rick will get suspended 12 to 15 games, UL will get a 1 million dollar fine and possibly another post season ban but that would be a stretch. And in the end, they will do it based on what they have already proven. And Andre will walk away without being proven guilty, so will Rick. And Andres "name will be cleared". While he has fat pockets.
I wonder if Andre played "let's make a deal" with the Feds back when this 1st broke out to the public? His testimony for amnesty?
This whole deal has a Martin Scorcese flavor to it: think under plot of the bumblings of those involved of Lufthansa heist (1978) in the movie Goodfellas. Plot twistings infusion.
This whole deal has a Martin Scorcese flavor to it: think under plot of the bumblings of those involved of Lufthansa heist (1978) in the movie Goodfellas. Plot twistings infusion.
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Oh that's hilarious! I was on a flight with Damion Lee from Baltimore at the end of August. Made a joke when a UL fan gave him his exit seat for more leg room. I yelled out "NCAA Violation!". :joy:
If Rick did something bad and has been lying and that comes out, he goes down in flames. He will fight until his dying breathe, paying off or supporting an assistant hiring Prostitutes will finish him in College Basketball. This is far worse than Eddie Sutton who went on to have a solid career after the scandal. Lying / Covering up is almost worse than the crime (ask Bruce Pearl). Heck ask Nixon
all due respect here -
in order to read that, you have to join the group - and not sure if I want to be part of a rivalry group with UofL fans. Any way you could screen shot or c&p the comments?
If it is good info and it's on facebook, it will be right here within a short time. Everyone here wants to start the next 250k view thread. Places like RR is why facebook groups exist.
We are born to be wild:
We are born to be wild:
Which is at least part of why no one is ever going to talk or admit anything ever.
There are too many ways to get in for real and actual trouble to have any upside of cooperating with any investigation or taking any hint of responsibility at all.
The NCAA can do what they please but they can't lock you up or take your property and money.
There are ways to pay people off (Andre) without literally handing them a stack of cash. Jobs, cars, homes, trips, etc. It might be worth looking at how much UMKC paid McGee. Was it more than the position normally would make?
When it comes to UofL basketball, if all logic fails, just assume the worst. The word "sleazy" doesn't even begin to cover what that program really is. And the funny thing is that a lot of this stuff really ramped up just about the same time Cal set foot in Lexington. They were so obsessed with competing with UK that they literally met 'ole Scratch' at the crossroads and signed in blood. But, as always there's gonna be hell to pay.
When it comes to UofL basketball, if all logic fails, just assume the worst. The word "sleazy" doesn't even begin to cover what that program really is. And the funny thing is that a lot of this stuff really ramped up just about the same time Cal set foot in Lexington. They were so obsessed with competing with UK that they literally met 'ole Scratch' at the crossroads and signed in blood. But, as always there's gonna be hell to pay.
Really? With all the big time gambling? I am surprised it hasn't happened more, and I truly believe that there are some officials involved.
Probably because she and Rick have been doing the horizontal hokey pokey. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye: But, I guess my question is, why did McGee leave a job that paid a whole lot more, to go to Missouri @ St. Louis, quite a while before all this broke? I think it was because Rick found out about it, and sent him packing, plus, he sweetened the pot for McGee, to get him away from the local media, and to mouth shut.