Clearly, he should have been given a shot considering we had nowhere to go but up.
RU QB Situation Thoughts
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Whomever wins the starting job, Lewis will not redshirt in 2017. He will be on the field, running the offense for a portion of the season. That was part of Rutgers' recruiting pitch to him. Moreover, Ash needs 2018 to be a big year for the program. Lewis will have to be primed for 2018.
Yes and no. Your point that our offenses are somewhat similar is true but the disparity in talent (on the field) would make you feel as if you're running two different offenses. Bolin will call plays and expect players to be in specific areas on the field, when that doesn't happen he will be in no man's land and in my opinion fail. Gio is conditioned and programmed with the current talent on hand making him the natural front runner. Bolin practiced with a team that almost beat Clemson, which makes looking good much much easier. Let's see how good he looks when he zips a pass to a WR in double coverage instead of a Louisville WR who has 3-4 yards of separation. Get my point.
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I agree that all 3 will play especially if Lewis is as good as we have been led to believe. Ash has to set us up for a breakout year in 2018.
No rotating QB's. The Oden package last year was a disaster. The only other QB who should play is the backup if we are up big. That's about it.
Lewis red shirt, with Gio and Bolin getting all of the snaps, is my preferred outcome.
I have a feeling that its going to be similar to how Louisville did with Bolin and Jackson in 2015. Go back and watch that goal line TD by Louisville and you'll see what kind of QB your getting. 32:28
IRRELEVANT..unless u put Bolin under center with our Offense last year! only common sense!
Then I guess it's irrelevant that Lewis is good because he's only played against HS players.
Bolin is an immediate upgrade compared to all the QBs we currently have, booth in experience and skill set. However, people should temper expectations - he seem to have a propensity to throw interceptions. I would probably compare him to a Gary Nova - when he's on, he can beat you by himself, but when he's off, he can lose games by himself also.
That's the way you see it. But, as usual, it is not that way.
The reason Oden was limited was due to him not doing the work required. If the staff thinks Lewis is going to be the guy in 2018, I expect he will play this year.
current QB offer to Cali kid is #5 as comitable offer ,and kids first power five offer..
You need to have a better idea of who RU is making a priority before going off on "alot of swings and misses."
The worrier syndrome... the anxiety that comes with being a Rutgers fan.
Fall can't get here soon enough.
And has an OC who's willing (and able) to adjust the system to suit the talent he has.
I would call going after #5 on QB chart is alot of swings and misses..and current target had zero power five offers till RU .
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I'm sorry but he's right. We've had a bunch of swing and misses so far. Take your scarlet glasses off
I'm sorry, but I disagree. Fans are going to have to be patient for better on field results before there is a slew of commits. Not really really concerned, but the constant drumbeat of "the sky is falling" from this guy is annoying.
I don't see any sky is falling posts. your first post was spinning us not missing on priority guys. mReality is we're offering every qb out there and a bunch of priority qbs already rejected us. Not sure why you're trying to spin it
So now "we're offering every qb out there"? How many QBs is every QB out there? Hyperbole much?
There are several posters here, some who are probably not even RU fans, who seem to spin every tidbit of information into a narrative that "we are doomed" and "worst possible scenario."
As noted above, the reality of the situation is we are coming off a horrific year on the field. There is no spinning that. My nature is to not cry over spilled milk and wring my hands over recruiting results in May. We all know decommits will happen. If BC craps the bed on the field, they will have decommits. If RU can show improvement on the field, we may be able to flip some recruits we missed on.
Let me say it again--RU's recruiting success this year is going to be directly tied to showing improvement on the field. We should not be expecting much in the way of commits before the season starts.
I don't see adding Bolin as a bad thing. He has the most P5 experience of our QBs. He wanted to come here. Ash and Kill probably told him he has the best chance to start. It would probably bring Gio up a level. Bolin did it at Louisville and his replacement won the Heisman. I don't see why we would need Lewis to burn his red shirt this year if both Bolin and Gio stay healthy.
We are not the same team as last year. Ash learned from his mistakes as a rookie coach and made major changes by bringing in Coach Kill. That experience alone is what our offense needs.
Think about where we stood two years ago and the level of coaches we had. We now have coaches that coached in the B1G, won coach of the year in the B1G, and won national championships as players and coaches (coordinators). All of this was not in Rutgers coaching vocabulary.
Coach Ash came in here with a pitiful team thanks to Flood. Our rep was very much tarnished with what went on off campus. We couldn't win for losing with our quarterback led by a stubborn coach who wouldn't make a change (how do you make that call to replace your QB after a half when that first QB did a fantastic job with a suspended for a half QB? I would have sat his *** out! Things after that game may have been different. But I digress.
You have a staff that are killing it in recruiting, using social media to their advantage, working kids like crazy to get in the best shape they can possibly be, bringing in a culture that makes you proud to root for Rutgers.
Will a change be made overnight? Sure I bought into the hype last year thinking we could win more than we did. I should have listen to the ones in charge that Rutgers will need some rebuilding years. I'm prepared this year for that and will celebrate any win we get. But I'll also be there when we don't do well showing the team that they have fans who care and want them all to succeed. I truly feel that we were one broken ankle away from winning 5 games. And that was with a lousy team. This year should be light years better. These coaches won't stand for it.
So with Bolin (still hard to use his first name in a sentence, bad karma) added, maybe we can win some surprise games. His head is in the game. Gio has a different attitude playing with a starter mentality. Between these two and an improved line on both sides, we should have some chances to win a close game or pull out an upset. Half full, maybe, but I also know that this serious rebuild takes more than two recruiting seasons.
We are not the same team as last year. Ash learned from his mistakes as a rookie coach and made major changes by bringing in Coach Kill. That experience alone is what our offense needs.
Think about where we stood two years ago and the level of coaches we had. We now have coaches that coached in the B1G, won coach of the year in the B1G, and won national championships as players and coaches (coordinators). All of this was not in Rutgers coaching vocabulary.
Coach Ash came in here with a pitiful team thanks to Flood. Our rep was very much tarnished with what went on off campus. We couldn't win for losing with our quarterback led by a stubborn coach who wouldn't make a change (how do you make that call to replace your QB after a half when that first QB did a fantastic job with a suspended for a half QB? I would have sat his *** out! Things after that game may have been different. But I digress.
You have a staff that are killing it in recruiting, using social media to their advantage, working kids like crazy to get in the best shape they can possibly be, bringing in a culture that makes you proud to root for Rutgers.
Will a change be made overnight? Sure I bought into the hype last year thinking we could win more than we did. I should have listen to the ones in charge that Rutgers will need some rebuilding years. I'm prepared this year for that and will celebrate any win we get. But I'll also be there when we don't do well showing the team that they have fans who care and want them all to succeed. I truly feel that we were one broken ankle away from winning 5 games. And that was with a lousy team. This year should be light years better. These coaches won't stand for it.
So with Bolin (still hard to use his first name in a sentence, bad karma) added, maybe we can win some surprise games. His head is in the game. Gio has a different attitude playing with a starter mentality. Between these two and an improved line on both sides, we should have some chances to win a close game or pull out an upset. Half full, maybe, but I also know that this serious rebuild takes more than two recruiting seasons.
Going by the spring game even though we didn't have all our guys available, who knows what we will be running. If we get the right guy to run the offense, it could change from what was expected from a fan's prospective. As long as it produces and can score points, it will be a plus.
Didn't you guarantee six wins next year. Now you're saying we have to be patient for better results?
2016- Flood error.
2017- We got our man in J. Lewis
2018- Cast a wide net. 18 is still not "every QB out there."
No. I GUARANTEED 8, and I upped my total when we added Bolin.
Still have to be patient for the season to start.
I see 6 wins as a realistic goal. I think that has been my position. In order of RU win probability:
Morgan, EMU, Purdue, Illinois, Indiana,
Maryland, Michigan State, Michigan, Nebraska, Washington, Penn State, Ohio State
Will it happen? I don't know.
You posted these two things. This is a lot of BS. This is what got me posting. Sitkowski,Valecce, Langan, Re-Al Mitchell, Devin Leary. All guys Rutgers wanted. All guys who rejected Rutgers. Ask the mods. They were not told they didn't have a committable offer. Rutgers would've GLADLY taken them
Yes hyperbole. Sorry about that but we have been offering more than usual as posted by someone earlier.
I agree with this post. The results from last year and uncertainty from this year are what are holding recruits back. This has nothing to do with your original posts of "That's the way you see it. But, as usual, it is not that way" "You need to have a better idea of who RU is making a priority before going off on "alot of swings and misses." Those posts sound like spinning since we have CLEARLY missed on priority recruits. It looks like it'll be a down year right now but if we get to a bowl game or at least show fight against top schools, we can see a change. Possibly have some top recruits truly consider us
The constant drumbeat of whining in tiresome IMO. It has been stated ad nauseum why recruits are not signing right now. Yet a couple of posters keep pounding the drum. Some people love dwelling on the negative.
Keep in mind last year:
Naijee Jones was committed before Ash got here.
Ash got Melton, Clark and Beatty by the the third week of April, and Wormley and Lewis were on board by the end of April. That is 5 Ash commits by the end of April, or 20% of the 25 member class.
Also, we had 12 QBs offer last year (if TOS is accurate).
It's May 8, and we have 2 recruits of a class that will be about 15 recruits -that's 13% of the recruiting class. We are not that far behind last year. People need to relax a bit.