….someone saying he should stay another year at Rutgers to develop further as he wasn’t nba ready.
That was an all time classic
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….someone saying he should stay another year at Rutgers to develop further as he wasn’t nba ready.
That was an all time classic
Would trade Brunson for him straight up tomorrow.
Here you go.
Ace and Dylan:
Too slow
Can't shoot
Can't dribble
Won't be able to handle so many games
Won't start on any team
Too slow to be a NBA PG
Should return because they will waste away in the G-League (Flagg as well)
Ace and Dylan Top 3? Sorry. Don’t see it… - Forums
Ace couldn’t be more inconsistent. Very poor handle… very. Dylan seemingly peaked and is not the player he was…. Injury lingered? There’s many more players, even 2 freshman, better AT THIS STAGE. I can’t see a franchise taking a chance on the “potential” of Ace with that high in the draft in...
Alot of time on the drive back from Indiana got me thinking. About one and dones.
Can the NBA use Dylan Harper, Ace Bailey and Cooper Flag to change the one and done to two and done. Where a NBA team can subsidize a play and pay the player for a 2nd year to stay at the school they last played for in place of going to the G developmental league since power conference...
Not sure about POY, but probably hops Edgecomb at worst.
It's really helped him having strong defenders around him. He's got like three better defenders on the floor with him at all times. I've been impressed he's kept his TO rate pretty low. Question is, do the SAS keep all the guards and keep him in that role for a couple years?
Fox will be out I believe. Mentor the younger guards until they mature a bit more. Dylan eventually moves into the starting PG role Castle goes to the sixth man role. Just an opinion
Oooh, don't know that it makes sense that they ever swap Dylan and Castle when they are both flourishing in current roles. I see them more playing together interchangeably at both positions.
He wasn’t that awful on D at RU it was just that a) his usage on offense was off the charts so he didn’t have enough in the tank to be a difference maker on D and b) he was a frosh - adjusting to the speed of the game (more D is actually played in college than in the NBA) and c) the front court D was really the problem last year. I’d argue - Ace didn’t look great out there but he was far and away our best front court defender overall.
This leads into the remaining premise that the frontcourt D remains a problem that hasn’t been sufficiently addressed. Trading Grant for a comparably poor defender in Smith isn’t going to help much unless Sydnor / Buchanan provide more support at the 3/4 than we got supporting Grant last year. Gurdack will be servicable on D, but I wouldn’t say that’s a strength.
He wasn't great on D last year, but still was amongst our best defenders, point was, good defensive players around a guy make you look much better whether you are good or average.
We need to hope that Syndor is a big upgrade defensively over Grant and that Gurdak will be better at the help aspect and pure post D than EO was, as we know he's not quite the rebounder or shot blocker. Realistically, we probably just moved our worst defender from the 4 spot to the 3 in Smith and will be just OK at the other spot. It is safe to say that back up 5 defense has been upgraded, maybe the only defensive upgrade overall.
Yes to the last part, but on the same hand, we’ve downgraded our ability to defend the handful of 5 out style teams we’ll face in conference because we currently don’t have a guy who can fill the role Dortch played against those opponents. I feel we could really use to add one more defensive piece to the frontcourt.
He looked really
I saw 3rd quarter and into 4th quarter only of this game, but I thought Dylan looked great. Carried the offense for a portion of the game. Very efficient and makes it look effortless.
Should return because they will waste away in the G-League (Flagg as well)
“Should return because they will waste away in the G-League (Flagg as well)” is really the coup de grâce of all these. All three are all perfectly fine in the NBA and should have long careers, barring injuries.Here you go.
Ace and Dylan:
Too slow
Can't shoot
Can't dribble
Won't be able to handle so many games
Won't start on any team
Too slow to be a NBA PG
Should return because they will waste away in the G-League (Flagg as well)
Ace and Dylan Top 3? Sorry. Don’t see it… - Forums
Ace couldn’t be more inconsistent. Very poor handle… very. Dylan seemingly peaked and is not the player he was…. Injury lingered? There’s many more players, even 2 freshman, better AT THIS STAGE. I can’t see a franchise taking a chance on the “potential” of Ace with that high in the draft in...www.on3.com
Alot of time on the drive back from Indiana got me thinking. About one and dones.
Can the NBA use Dylan Harper, Ace Bailey and Cooper Flag to change the one and done to two and done. Where a NBA team can subsidize a play and pay the player for a 2nd year to stay at the school they last played for in place of going to the G developmental league since power conference...
No doubt, I'm assuming we shift Syndor to that Dortch role against a five out and thats when Darren spends time at the 4.
Here you go.
Ace and Dylan:
Too slow
Can't shoot
Can't dribble
Won't be able to handle so many games
Won't start on any team
Too slow to be a NBA PG
Should return because they will waste away in the G-League (Flagg as well)
Ace and Dylan Top 3? Sorry. Don’t see it… - Forums
Ace couldn’t be more inconsistent. Very poor handle… very. Dylan seemingly peaked and is not the player he was…. Injury lingered? There’s many more players, even 2 freshman, better AT THIS STAGE. I can’t see a franchise taking a chance on the “potential” of Ace with that high in the draft in...
Alot of time on the drive back from Indiana got me thinking. About one and dones.
Can the NBA use Dylan Harper, Ace Bailey and Cooper Flag to change the one and done to two and done. Where a NBA team can subsidize a play and pay the player for a 2nd year to stay at the school they last played for in place of going to the G developmental league since power conference...
scanning that thread is ******* hilarious. The number of bad takes is just amazing
it starts with the OP - he ends his post by saying “prove me wrong” - my first thought: ace and Harper just did
I think the best post was this guy who argued against those saying that ace and Harper were over-rated:
“I wonder who is more on point about their draft status/ NBA potential?
People who get paid to evaluate talent for a multi-billion $$ business?
or
Know-nothing idiots on a message board?”
Sounds like an extremely smart and amazingly handsome guy
What he is doing is what we saw he was capable of and why until he got hurt and I’ll there was a debate about Flagg and him for # 1. He is showing off his full bag and his shooting has really improved and his driving to the hoop was the best in the country last year in college and maybe again in his rookie season.
The most impressive thing , and there is 3-4 of them , is his defense. He can guard . It is demanded by Coach Johnson and he has taken the challenge. His block of A tony Edwards was a great recovery. Also he had 10 rebounds last night and his passing on on display every nigh is elite He is going all this primarily off the board and adjusting on the fly to handling and then off ball. Maturity , IQ, and poise melded with elite talent. Beautiful to watch.
The most impressive thing , and there is 3-4 of them , is his defense. He can guard . It is demanded by Coach Johnson and he has taken the challenge. His block of A tony Edwards was a great recovery. Also he had 10 rebounds last night and his passing on on display every nigh is elite He is going all this primarily off the board and adjusting on the fly to handling and then off ball. Maturity , IQ, and poise melded with elite talent. Beautiful to watch.
I agree Fox most likely to move for cap reasons, though they love him because he brings such a different look because of his speed, even with his injuries, still among the top 3 fastest players in the league. No way Castle doesn’t start going forward, he may be the best guard and wing defender in the league, he will always be on the floor when the opponent’s stars are on the floor.
Castle is borderline All-NBA. He's not coming off the bench.
High praise from Simmons. As many of us said, early on, he was destined to be an NBA star. Great to see.
He developed more in his first month with the Spurs than he did in a whole season at RU.if only he had stayed another year to “develop” at Rutgers
Maybe you should have paid closer attention!
Just to add - his conditioning had to suffer from missing a lot of time in the offseason (knee surgery) and in season with the flu (worsened by his asthma) and the ankle sprain.
Here you go.
Ace and Dylan:
Too slow
Can't shoot
Can't dribble
Won't be able to handle so many games
Won't start on any team
Too slow to be a NBA PG
Should return because they will waste away in the G-League (Flagg as well)
Ace and Dylan Top 3? Sorry. Don’t see it… - Forums
Ace couldn’t be more inconsistent. Very poor handle… very. Dylan seemingly peaked and is not the player he was…. Injury lingered? There’s many more players, even 2 freshman, better AT THIS STAGE. I can’t see a franchise taking a chance on the “potential” of Ace with that high in the draft in...
Alot of time on the drive back from Indiana got me thinking. About one and dones.
Can the NBA use Dylan Harper, Ace Bailey and Cooper Flag to change the one and done to two and done. Where a NBA team can subsidize a play and pay the player for a 2nd year to stay at the school they last played for in place of going to the G developmental league since power conference...
Man, where did @Scangg go? One of the best posters on here.
And still on a rookie deal. Fox could be a valuable asset for a trade - especially for picks given how well they draft and with an emerging Big 3 slowly coming off of rookie contracts every year after next. Spurs could be forming another dynasty.
San Antonio desperately needs a power forward who can rebound, defend, and hit 3s. They look good now with a Minnesota team whose best player is playing hurt, but it will be a different story when they go up against Oklahoma and have trouble matching up in the front court.
Spurs beat OKC 4 out of 5 during the regular season. It should be a great, intense series. Looking forward to it.
Dylan Harper Is the Spurs’ Ace in the Hole
San Antonio’s rookie point guard is bursting out of his bench role in a way that should terrify the Timberwolves—and the rest of the NBA
www.theringer.com
Really Tango,Dylan Harper Is the Spurs’ Ace in the Hole
San Antonio’s rookie point guard is bursting out of his bench role in a way that should terrify the Timberwolves—and the rest of the NBAwww.theringer.com
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I had posted it on the Round Table 5 minutes earlier than this. Came here to add it now and found your post. Not really good moderator behavior to not attribute.
https://www.theringer.com/2026/05/13/nba/dylan-harper-san-antonio-spurs-rookie-playoffs
@Richie O
Thank you for bringing it to my attention, I'll handle it.
