Robert E Lee

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TigerLion06

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I love the snowflakes crying about guys losing their names on buildings or statues taken down. Crying about how history changes.

Most students throughout Clemson history had no idea who Tillman was for example. Doesn't change history or anything. I laughed. They could've kept Tillman's name and it didn't bother me one bit but I laugh at the snowflakes who cried because they might change it.

If they take down a statue it just says we've decided to no longer honor what the person did or stood for. Doesn't change what they did or stood for. We've changed as a people. I don't support removing the name of someone because they simply owned slaves. I think that's stupid. If they had a certain reputation that folks don't want to associate with I'm ok. Slave ownership is not enough in my opinion.

Both sides are over run with snowflakes. Own it instead of accusing others of being what you all are.
 

casellers84

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Actually, the one I have an issue with is PGT Beauregard. He fought in the Mexican American War, was a native to Louisiana and was an advocate for Civil Rights when the war was over.

To be honest, I doubt many in here realize that TG Clemson was also a CSA officer and slave owner. Maybe his statue should come done and the school name changed.
 

iceheart08

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I think it's generally accepted at this point that the ******** that's going on is on the liberal snowflakes. Besides, you're a liberal that likes fat chicks with neck tats, so your opinion is immediately negated.

You are the only snowflake ITT complaining about a statue (in another state no less) being taken down.

EDIT: Well, now you've got a few snowflake buddies. You should start a group or something. You guys can sit around and whine together about all the statues you were hoping to show your kids depicting slaver heroes that won't be around anymore.
 
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TigerLion06

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Actually, the one I have an issue with is PGT Beauregard. He fought in the Mexican American War, was a native to Louisiana and was an advocate for Civil Rights when the war was over.

To be honest, I doubt many in here realize that TG Clemson was also a CSA officer and slave owner. Maybe his statue should come done and the school name changed.

Did you know that TG Clemson's will was the only one that didn't specify race with respect to the college that was to come? Tillman fought him on that but he refused to budge. Believed it should be for all citizens. His best friend on record was a black man and there's other info that should keep him off the change the name list. He was far from the typical slave owner. He'll be fine.
 

casellers84

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Did you know that TG Clemson's will was the only one that didn't specify race with respect to the college that was to come? Tillman fought him on that but he refused to budge. Believed it should be for all citizens. His best friend on record was a black man and there's other info that should keep him off the change the name list. He was far from the typical slave owner. He'll be fine.

My point exactly. That's why I feel Beauregard's statue should be left up instead of being lumped in with the others because he checked certain boxes over 250 years ago. If folks want go this route they need crack a history book.
 
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IcelandTiger

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I love the snowflakes crying about guys losing their names on buildings or statues taken down. Crying about how history changes.

Most students throughout Clemson history had no idea who Tillman was for example. Doesn't change history or anything. I laughed. They could've kept Tillman's name and it didn't bother me one bit but I laugh at the snowflakes who cried because they might change it.

If they take down a statue it just says we've decided to no longer honor what the person did or stood for. Doesn't change what they did or stood for. We've changed as a people. I don't support removing the name of someone because they simply owned slaves. I think that's stupid. If they had a certain reputation that folks don't want to associate with I'm ok. Slave ownership is not enough in my opinion.

Both sides are over run with snowflakes. Own it instead of accusing others of being what you all are.


Ok Chairman Mao
 

andcam

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I think it's generally accepted at this point that the ******** that's going on is on the liberal snowflakes. Besides, you're a liberal that likes fat chicks with neck tats, so your opinion is immediately negated.

You cant have it both ways: You cant decry a liberal for being a snowflake for being upset about something not going their way and then be the victim when it is your viewpoint.
 

andcam

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Wait, Lincoln had slaves and the Emancipation Proclamation only freed slaves in southern states. At his death, more than 2 years after the EP Abraham Lincoln owned roughly a dozen slaves. They were freed by his death.

When does his monugent come down?

Do you really think Abraham Lincoln owned slaves or are you just trolling? It was against the law for an IL citizen to own slaves within the state of IL.
 

jimbob1019

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Always funny to me that people actually think the Civil War was over slavery...it wasn't. Lincoln offered to preserve slavery for the South...it didn't change a thing.

For the record, slavery was awful & would've eventually been outlawed everywhere...just b/c people fought for the South doesn't mean they all agreed with it...
 

iceheart08

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Always funny to me that people actually think the Civil War was over slavery...it wasn't. Lincoln offered to preserve slavery for the South...it didn't change a thing.

For the record, slavery was awful & would've eventually been outlawed everywhere...just b/c people fought for the South doesn't mean they all agreed with it...

@jimbob1019, keep up man. I think you are supposed you join @CLT-Tiger in being outraged.

He's got a group of snowflakes getting together next week for some rum and diet. You should reach out see if you can get involved.

Week 1 topic: how does the modern white man celebrate his slaver heroes without everyone thinking he is racist.

Also, glad you made it clear that you find slavery abhorrent. Because that's totally not just an assumed thing normal human beings agree on. AMIRITE @FreeSC
 

Avanti

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iceheart08

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Removing Confederate monuments is likened to Moslems calling the Holocaust a hoax and trying to erase from history books. A bunch of very sick people, flaming left wing retards, on the planet.

Ohhhh myyyyy.

I mean 1, you should probably delete your account for this post. And 2, the overwhelming majority of Holocaust deniers are white Christians.

But regardless, I'm just glad we found another snowflake to join @CLT-Tiger to discuss how in the world they can continue teaching their children about their slaver heroes without their slaver statues.
 

CLT-Tiger

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Ohhhh myyyyy.

I mean 1, you should probably delete your account for this post. And 2, the overwhelming majority of Holocaust deniers are white Christians.

But regardless, I'm just glad we found another snowflake to join @CLT-Tiger to discuss how in the world they can continue teaching their children about their slaver heroes without their slaver statues.
Snowflakes? Funny, look man you guys can try and erase history all you want, so far your ******** led to Trump getting elected. Congrats
 

casellers84

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Ohhhh myyyyy.

I mean 1, you should probably delete your account for this post. And 2, the overwhelming majority of Holocaust deniers are white Christians.

But regardless, I'm just glad we found another snowflake to join @CLT-Tiger to discuss how in the world they can continue teaching their children about their slaver heroes without their slaver statues.

Your degree says Clemson right? Slave owner, right?
 
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tigerson

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Ohhhh myyyyy.

I mean 1, you should probably delete your account for this post. And 2, the overwhelming majority of Holocaust deniers are white Christians.

But regardless, I'm just glad we found another snowflake to join @CLT-Tiger to discuss how in the world they can continue teaching their children about their slaver heroes without their slaver statues.
Do y'all just pull this stuff out of your butt or is there a liberal textbook on white Christians 101 where you just make a bunch of crap up and all the sheeple just believe it? You liberal hacks are the ones trying to erase the holocaust from the books , at least until Trump got elected and you decided bringing up Hitler fit your narrative.
 

jimbob1019

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Ohhhh myyyyy.

I mean 1, you should probably delete your account for this post. And 2, the overwhelming majority of Holocaust deniers are white Christians.

But regardless, I'm just glad we found another snowflake to join @CLT-Tiger to discuss how in the world they can continue teaching their children about their slaver heroes without their slaver statues.
No Icy...#2 in your post is absolutely untrue...unless you're talking about tjose leftist nutjobs that say they're Christian but they really don't believe in anything biblical...kinda like the ones that say Israel's land belongs to the Palestinians or the abortion doctor that says he's doing the Lord's work...
 

treetiger

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I understand there has been some chatter starting in Atlanta about removing the Robert E. Lee on horseback off of Stone Mountain. It has now become racist.
 

treetiger

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I think that Abraham Lincoln was one of the best presidents that this country has ever had. Yet here are some of his thoughts regarding black people. Do we need to now start taking down Lincoln monuments?:

“I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in anyway the social and political equality of the white and black races – that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race. I say upon this occasion I do not perceive that because the white man is to have the superior position the negro should be denied everything.” (Abraham Lincoln)
 

Willence

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I really don't care if there are statues of Lee or Jackson around. That isn't what matters here as much as it is the intent and thought process (really the lack thereof) of the removal of these monuments. There's a profound stupidity that is being enabled in our country. It's really no different than what other totalitarian regimes have done throughout history to change or alter history. One need only look around the world and throughout history to see which people are the ones that remove monuments or try to take away references to history. If that's the company those people wish to keep, I am happy to be on the other side. It is the province of evil.

Further, there's only one person here who mentioned race in all this. It's the usual suspect who likes to condescend and stir the pot from the lowest basement around. That makes me sad because it does nothing but shine a bright light of stupidity for all to see.

Our history is important. Who we are, where we have come from and what we have done right and wrong are all things that we should study and appreciate. We have come so far in certain areas and in many others, we have fallen so far. There is very seldom anything progressive about progressive thought. It is often a linear, single minded pursuit of group think and intolerance. It's a shame we've headed so far in that direction.

So while taking monuments of Robert E. Lee down won't change history, it does take away a reminder of mistakes made and triumphs achieved. We are a people that have come far. Unfortunately, we've repaved the roads of the past with our ignorance and anger and now we're headed right back to where we started in so many ways. A statue isn't going to change that but it's a shame that we won't know the eyes of history when we see them so they can provide us warning when we stray back into troubled waters.
 

iceheart08

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I'm willing to bet he the only piece of paper he got from Clemson was a rejection letter, and he has a junior college degree. Amirite??

Yup! That's me! Junior college degree + a Clemson rejection letter. ****.

Are you also having a bad day snowflake?
 

grazhoppa

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What happens to Arlington National Cemetery, since it lies on the grounds of Lee's plantation... and his house overlooks it?

The next ones to be targeted are Washington and Jefferson.
 

vatiger1

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Wait, Lincoln had slaves and the Emancipation Proclamation only freed slaves in southern states. At his death, more than 2 years after the EP Abraham Lincoln owned roughly a dozen slaves. They were freed by his death.

When does his monugent come down?

Funny how the Libs forget about that little piece of history. There are many other monuments in the D.C area that will need to come down while we're at it...
 
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