Against UK in the last 8 games. And he's coaching at that basketball dump, UT. No more Rick Barnes jokes please. The man is Cal's kryptonite.
Rick Barnes is 5-3
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Middle school BB. RB put an extra G in the paimt..stopped all drives (sans Maxey) and Cal didn't adjust. Can't spread the floor if U don't shoot the 3..
I still remember how this board was laughing and ridiculing the hire when UT hired Barnes.
We're not laughing so much now. The man has been kicking our ***.
We're not laughing so much now. The man has been kicking our ***.
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5-3 in the last 8 and 7-5 in the last 12. He managed to split with our 2016 and 2017 teams when Tennessee wasn't even an NIT team either of those years. It's a complete joke how much he has owned Coach Cal and UK since becoming the Head Coach at UT. It's embarrassing.
Cal won the Texas game in 2015 when Barnes was coach. Texas beat Memphis when Cal was there.
I think Barnes is 8-6 versus Cal overall
I think Barnes is 8-6 versus Cal overall
Good point. He's been beating us even when he has crappy teams.
I think maybe Barnes saw all those nasty jokes we made about him over the years, because he now seems to make a special point of beating UK ...even when he has a bad team.
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To be honest UT and Auburn have more than held their own against us the last few years. Since 2015, when we seemed to have taken a step back from the previous 5 seasons with Cal, we are 9-11 verses those 2 teams.
I really don’t put much into this. Mike Brey owned Coach K for like 6 out of 7 games at one point. I’m more concerned this team and Cal would perform like last night at a critical point in the season.
South Carolina has also took 2 out of the last 3 from us and with bad teams as well. I agree, we have declined over the past 5 seasons and anybody that can't see it is as blind as Stevie Wonder. Some people do see it but can't accept it.
Cal is in a different stratosphere than RB in recruiting and selling a program.
RB is a better basketball coach. As are two dozen coaches out there. Cal has never been considered a great teacher of basketball. He just isn't that. He's won at UK and Memphis by amassing superior talent and managing personalities- which is as important (maybe more so in today's game) as Xs and Os.
RB is a better basketball coach. As are two dozen coaches out there. Cal has never been considered a great teacher of basketball. He just isn't that. He's won at UK and Memphis by amassing superior talent and managing personalities- which is as important (maybe more so in today's game) as Xs and Os.
Declined is a relative term as compared to other teams. Duke and other national teams have had issues too. However, UK has made the Elite 8 two out the past three years and has won over 30 games those years.
True but 0 Final 4s (Yes, Higgins screwed us but we also came back and took a 5 or 6 point lead and blew it in the last 4 or 5 minutes of that game), 0 1 seeds, 4-8 vs. other bluebloods, head scratching losses in November and December (Evansville, Utah, UCLA 2 or 3 times, a 35 point thrashing by Duke, Seton Hall, etc), bad SEC teams beating us much more often, etc...those things weren't happening from 2009-2015 or at least not nearly as often.
Barnes is a fine coach. Lots of excellent coaches dont get final fours. Some really crappy ones do at times. Barnes UT teams always play hard for him.
I would take Barnes over Kevin Ollie all day and twice on Sunday despite Ollie having a National Championship.
Agreed. But that run through 2015 wasn’t going to continue for a decade. UK has 9 final fours in the last forty years. Cal has 4 of them. Coach K couldn’t even make a final four with a generational talent like Zion and multiple other first round picks. It’s damn hard getting to the final four.
One thing that would make it easier on us is to stop losing games we shouldn't lose in November and December. Those losses don't ruin a season but sure can make it a lot harder on you in March. Conference upsets will happen but they're not as big of a deal if you handle your business against teams that you should in the Non Conference.
oddis, don't ever say anything negative about Cal's coaching. A lot of the posters think he walks on water, and you will catch a lot of ****. He is a GREAT recruiter. I always look at the second half, to see what adjustments coaches make. If I'm trailing after the first half, then I figure I usually need to make some adjustments for the second half. This isn't always true, but it is most of the time.
OLD STOLL FIELD GUY!
OLD STOLL FIELD GUY!
Yet every year in March, Barnes is usually sitting at home while Cal’s teams are making a run
Well we both know early season losses are a function of molding young teams. However, people forget about the Denny Crum teams. They struggled early and then came together in February.
I agree and Coach Cal's teams do the same but that being young thing can't really be used as an excuse when you're almost always young because of roster turnover year after or year or every other year at the most. Plus, the 2010 team went 15-0 in the Non Conference, 2011 went 12-2, 2012 went 14-1, and 2015 went 14-0. The 2014 team is the only UK team under Coach Cal that lost 3 or more Non Conference games and still made it to the Final 4 (National Title game) and they had to go through the Region of Hell to make it there.
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Frankly and brutally, there are no Walls, Cousins, T Jones, Knights, Towns etc on the past few teams. But I will say, as pissed as I am over that loss last night, there is gross overreaction to it as far is this team is doomed now. It isn’t. College basketball Is down this year and they can still make a run.
I agree. I think this team can make a run. I also think they can be beat in the 1st Round. They can win it all or make a Final 4 and they could also get knocked out in the first weekend. It's up to them. If they drop the Jekyll and Hyde stuff and learn to put teams away when they have the chance. They have the talent, size, speed, athleticism, coaching, etc to make a big run, that's for sure. It depends if they learn to stop playing with fire during games. If they don't learn anything from last night, they won't make it far in the NCAA Tournament.
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Whose fault is that? Good thing he made a deep run with Kevin Durant and D.J. Augustin at Texas...oh waitUsually, Barnes has less talent to work with........
So does Mike Brey. He still beat K’s *** 6 out of 7 times.Usually, Barnes has less talent to work with........
I’ve said it before but Cal struggles against his friends. Even though we only lost twice to them he struggled with Crean at IU. We always had superior talent against them and yet all the games were close or a loss.
The only two blowouts were the John wall team, that beat a still on probation IU squad by 18. We probably should have won that one by 30 or 40 though if I’m being honest. And then the next year in Rupp we beat them by close to 20 in a game that was close until the last 10 minutes when we shot a million free throws to win going away.
He HAS done much better since Crean came to Georgia.
But he also went 2-3 versus Alford at UCLA, including a loss at home and a loss to a UCLA team that didn’t even make the tournament. And another one that barely made it in and lost the play in game.
And now here we are and he’s 6-7 against Barnes since Barnes took the Tennessee job including losses in games which we’ve now lost a 20 point and 17 point lead.
I won’t be surprised if Crean starts kicking our butt again too once he gets the roster balanced to his liking.
The only two blowouts were the John wall team, that beat a still on probation IU squad by 18. We probably should have won that one by 30 or 40 though if I’m being honest. And then the next year in Rupp we beat them by close to 20 in a game that was close until the last 10 minutes when we shot a million free throws to win going away.
He HAS done much better since Crean came to Georgia.
But he also went 2-3 versus Alford at UCLA, including a loss at home and a loss to a UCLA team that didn’t even make the tournament. And another one that barely made it in and lost the play in game.
And now here we are and he’s 6-7 against Barnes since Barnes took the Tennessee job including losses in games which we’ve now lost a 20 point and 17 point lead.
I won’t be surprised if Crean starts kicking our butt again too once he gets the roster balanced to his liking.
This is what Louisville fans do - define time in such a way to manufacture the result you want.
Did you know "modern basketball" started in 1980?
All I’m saying is we make fun of Barnes a lot on here but he’s won more than he’s lost against us over the past several years.
Eh, we can't beat some NIT teams and we can't beat average by more than a bucket in this down year. This team would probably be in big trouble in a normal year. They're not that good man.
Cal is approaching Joe B Hall status. So sad what ego's will do to coaches who could've been goats.
Not a knock on Hall, but Cal is way above that tier,
Some coaches have such an ego, they refuse to redesign the game plan.( CAL & K)
Same problem with some OAD wannabees. .
Today's elites are different than even 5 years ago. Big reason that they
shun a team made up of 5*s. Just do it my way.
Most teams would be in trouble in a normal year. And Coach K can’t beat Wake Forest team with a losing record and loses to an NIT team by 22. Roy Williams has a losing record. Mack lost to two NIT teams in a row. List goes on. That doesn’t mean last night’s game didn’t suck and isn’t inexcusable.
UK is Tennessee’s Super Bowl. Usually their biggest accomplishment of the year. We go for FF’s and NC’s around here.