I never understood why some fans get mad when other fans are honest. Mama plum taught me honesty is best policyYou as well because you "Lead the League" in Ignores. Not something to be proud of....
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You were honest with your anti-Pikiell tirades ?
Which? I don’t remember going on many tirades . Maybe here or there but I never said fire pike. I always thought he was doing a good job , but jury was still out for a while . I certainly didn’t kill him with losses to houston or Notre dame. Would love to see what you’re referencing
One time I was very critical on a rant was in 2019 with the loss to nebraska in the BIG tournament . I think that loss deserved criticism.
Boozer a good one but Larry Johnson was an explosive beast when he came out of college. Would have to be Larry Johnson with Type 2 Diabetes.
Carlos Boozer didn't shoot threes so that's one big difference between him and Ron...(He took a total of one 3 point shot in his 3 year college career at Duke (0-1).. Then, in the NBA, he averaged 16.2 points and 9.5 rebounds per game over his 13 year career while averaging over 31 minutes per game... During those 13 years he shot 51.2% overall from the field, but took only 14 three point shots, missing 13 of them = 7.1%)
His dad and his buddies can’t and won’t do **** to keep Ron around.
Ron has to make Toronto’s roster all on his own
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It never happens in regard to roster spots…..ever!!!
You want to talk G league, front office, coaching…..absolutely
lol, Carlos Boozer???
If you want me to say Glen Rice, he needs to lose 40 pounds, play better defense on the perimeter and shoot better. Right now he's just a wide body who cant guard the backcourt.
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Harper isn't on the Raptors due to a favor for Harper Sr loll
Who exactly in the Raptors front office owes Harper Sr a favor?
Who exactly in the Raptors front office owes Harper Sr a favor?
Didn’t I already say that
do you realize that Boozer was a 6’9” big man that barely ever took a 3 in his life and never had any ball handling responsibility whatsoever? they are not even remotely comparable
Slightly off topic but since Carlos Boozer came up.
His twin sons are at the top of the Class of 2025.
Every report (from NBA folks - not just college) was raving about Cameron at that Las Vegas event.
He’s currently projected to be #1 overal
They are already 6’8”/6’9” at 14 years old.
Dam we are getting old.
His twin sons are at the top of the Class of 2025.
Every report (from NBA folks - not just college) was raving about Cameron at that Las Vegas event.
He’s currently projected to be #1 overal
They are already 6’8”/6’9” at 14 years old.
Dam we are getting old.
It’s going to be a real shocker when someone’s grandson shows up on that list.
Chris Morris was 6’8” 210” and much more athletic. There’s a reason he was picked #4 overall.
Harper’s game is somewhat reminiscent of Cedric Ceballos or Dan Majerle. They were 6’6” scorers that were primarily wing players, and could mix it up but not with the same level of aggressiveness of Anthony Mason’s or Ron Artests of the world.
They are players that likely would not have been as effective in an offensive scheme setup for 1:1 play, so motion offense and open style of play the Suns was well-suited for guys who were skilled and let the game come to them, similar to how Ron plays.
Weatherspoon was 6’6” 240- same as Harper- but he never shot 3’s.
RHJ is exactly who the G league is for; if he can either change his body or develop his outside shot, it’s possible he could find a role in the NBA with the right team.
She sounds like a lovely woman.
I think it’s okay to be honest but this is just your misguided opinion and you have said it many times. That’s not honesty that’s douchery.
In this particular instance, it’s just plain cluelessness and absolutely no idea of the absurdity of his claim.
I’m referring solely to the topic of roster spots at the highest level of professional sports
Ok so would love to hear your prediction on harper’s career. It seems like you don’t think he will hang around the league ?
I don’t pretend to know a damn thing,
Nor do I have a clue.
I can’t predict a a thing.
The only thing I do know is Ron’s fate is in his own hands, he has to achieve on his own one of the most difficult things percentage wise in all of sports.
I’m rooting for him
No idea.
Rooting hard for him….
Daddy, the owner of the team, or the President of the United States can’t and won’t help him
No idea ? Did you follow his rutgers career ? Or you don’t follow the NBA ?
This is a different conversation.
My Rutgers fanaticism or whether I follow the NBA is irrelevant.
I’m simply responding to the absurd notion his dad can call in a favor and keep Ron “around”
Its demeaning towards Ron and a completely ludicrous false statement.
Ok .
This is what I exactly posted ….”the guy won’t have any meaningful careeer in the NBA. The hope is some of his dad’s buddies around the league can keep him around on the fringes to collect enough contract $$.”
I said it was hope and now you say it can’t and won’t happen because you are saying my take is wrong and no one would keep him around based on a connection.
I Thank you for your clarity on this subject.
So I am asking if you think he will stick around then based on merit ?
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We will see what? You're gonna show some proof that RHJ is getting a look/pref treatment/roster spot based on a favor called in by RH Sr.???
Nobody is debating with you how long he will be around the nba. It's around this ridiculous claim youre doubling down on that the only reason he's getting a look is because of his dad.
I never said that. I posted it was a “hope” he can hang around the league that way . And thankfully @zappaa gave me some insight on this issue with his knowledge of how NBA front office’s work.
We will see if RHJ has a meaningful NBA career or not . That was the whole point of my original post . But everyone took up and ran with second part of my post was hoping he can stay around the league based on his family connections .
Anyway, congrats to Ron to making it to the top 1 percent of his profession and giving rutgers fans some memorable moments.
Yes, I'm well aware. You just described what RHJ will be in the NBA at his current weight. Sure, he'll shoot more 3 pointers, but that's because everyone shoots more 3 pointers in today's NBA.
Your statement was pretty damning of RHJ.
“The kid won’t have any meaningful career”
The second statement revolving around what the “ hope is” was ludicrous and I’m glad you realize it.
Now I will answer your question:
Ron is a gifted kid with a lot of basketball gifts, playing with better/elite players will always make you better.
It wouldn’t surprise me one bit if he was able to take the talents he has to another level and be a productive NBA player.
Unfortunately, it also wouldn’t surprise me if he didn’t make the jump and gets cut.
In other words, I have no clue.
!I admittedly thought Pacheco’s running style wouldn’t adapt to the NFL, looks like I was obviously incorrect.
I’m hoping you’re wrong about Ron and I’m sure you are as well…I know you’d like to see him succeed
Keith Hughes was a better player at Rutgers than Harper was in his last season, and he still couldn't stick in the NBA. It is a very hard thing to do. No shame at all if Harper doesn't make it. I have to agree with zap, there's no reason to say Harper Sr's connections will mean anything for giving Ron Jr a roster spot. Either a team will decide he can help off their bench, or they won't, on his own merits. That's how it should be.
It wasn’t “damning”. It was a prediction about professional sports . Do we have to treat sports predictions with kid gloves and sugarcoat them?Your statement was pretty damning of RHJ.
“The kid won’t have any meaningful career”
The second statement revolving around what the “ hope is” was ludicrous and I’m glad you realize it.
Now I will answer your question:
Ron is a gifted kid with a lot of basketball gifts, playing with better/elite players will always make you better.
It wouldn’t surprise me one bit if he was able to take the talents he has to another level and be a productive NBA player.
Unfortunately, it also wouldn’t surprise me if he didn’t make the jump and gets cut.
In other words, I have no clue.
I admittedly thought Pacheco’s running style wouldn’t adapt to the NFL, looks like I was obviously incorrect.
I’m hoping you’re wrong about Ron and I’m sure you are as well…I know you’d like to see him succeed
Yes, I hope my prediction of harper’s nba career is wrong . But it’s a prediction .
I didn’t want ash to really get us smashed either
I think of Harper as Shawn Marion with a less hideous shooting motion
Sounds like this one hits a little close to home for you? I don’t disagree with you of course. Ron will make it or not on his own.
Current weight? When was the last time you saw Harper?
His game is nothing like Boozer, certainly not at his current weight