Rewatched the game

oldjar07

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We played very well in the first half. Not much to complain about there. The Martinez fumble was huge though in allowing Colorado to stay in the game and probably cost us 7 points.

The second half there were a lot of defensive guys playing at 80 or 90%. We weren't ready coming out of the half and our guys let fatigue effect their play. Colorado made some good adjustments and had some really good play calls.

Our playcalling on offense was pretty bad for most of the half. Too much sideline stuff that Colorado was blowing up and not enough over the middle which was open a lot. Other than that Colorado made plays and we didn't. We allowed them to stay in the game and they played with more energy than us in the second half.

Overall I'm not freaking out about the rest of the season. I saw a lot of improvement in some areas from the first game. The O line played much better this week than they did last week, but are still struggling picking up stunts and blitzes in pass coverage.

The defense played better than I've seen them in a long time in the first half. Fatigue seemed to get the better of them in the second half, but the first half was definitely a positive sign for the remainder of the season.

An overtime loss to Colorado sucks, but there's still a lot of season left and if we continue to clean up some stuff and improve, I still think we can have a decent to good season.
 

NUSouth

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We played very well in the first half. Not much to complain about there. The Martinez fumble was huge though in allowing Colorado to stay in the game and probably cost us 7 points.

The second half there were a lot of defensive guys playing at 80 or 90%. We weren't ready coming out of the half and our guys let fatigue effect their play. Colorado made some good adjustments and had some really good play calls.

Our playcalling on offense was pretty bad for most of the half. Too much sideline stuff that Colorado was blowing up and not enough over the middle which was open a lot. Other than that Colorado made plays and we didn't. We allowed them to stay in the game and they played with more energy than us in the second half.

Overall I'm not freaking out about the rest of the season. I saw a lot of improvement in some areas from the first game. The O line played much better this week than they did last week, but are still struggling picking up stunts and blitzes in pass coverage.

The defense played better than I've seen them in a long time in the first half. Fatigue seemed to get the better of them in the second half, but the first half was definitely a positive sign for the remainder of the season.

An overtime loss to Colorado sucks, but there's still a lot of season left and if we continue to clean up some stuff and improve, I still think we can have a decent to good season.

3 things I completely agree with: Number one we don't have the conditioning part of strength and conditioning down, number 2 quit throwing swing passes to Mills that's a 2 yard loss waiting to happen, number 3 get the Ball to Robinson 3 to 4 yards downfield on a slant pattern and let him run. that guys a touchdown waiting to happen but he's too small to send into deep patterns he needs to be getting the ball within 5 yards of the line of scrimmage
 

dinglefritz

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We played very well in the first half. Not much to complain about there. The Martinez fumble was huge though in allowing Colorado to stay in the game and probably cost us 7 points.

The second half there were a lot of defensive guys playing at 80 or 90%. We weren't ready coming out of the half and our guys let fatigue effect their play. Colorado made some good adjustments and had some really good play calls.

Our playcalling on offense was pretty bad for most of the half. Too much sideline stuff that Colorado was blowing up and not enough over the middle which was open a lot. Other than that Colorado made plays and we didn't. We allowed them to stay in the game and they played with more energy than us in the second half.

Overall I'm not freaking out about the rest of the season. I saw a lot of improvement in some areas from the first game. The O line played much better this week than they did last week, but are still struggling picking up stunts and blitzes in pass coverage.

The defense played better than I've seen them in a long time in the first half. Fatigue seemed to get the better of them in the second half, but the first half was definitely a positive sign for the remainder of the season.

An overtime loss to Colorado sucks, but there's still a lot of season left and if we continue to clean up some stuff and improve, I still think we can have a decent to good season.
What's your take on the O line play? I only got to see the 3rd qtr and haven't had time or the desire to watch the 4th qtr. The low snap on that 3rd down in OT was a killer.
 

MOhusker12

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Colorado got more aggressive as the game worn on, yet no screen passes to guys like Wandale. I thought we could have taken advantage and got him the ball that way as well.
 

BigredN

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Oct 15, 2007
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3 things I completely agree with: Number one we don't have the conditioning part of strength and conditioning down, number 2 quit throwing swing passes to Mills that's a 2 yard loss waiting to happen, number 3 get the Ball to Robinson 3 to 4 yards downfield on a slant pattern and let him run. that guys a touchdown waiting to happen but he's too small to send into deep patterns he needs to be getting the ball within 5 yards of the line of scrimmage
Agree with the mills part. The best pass martinez threw in the 2nd half was a slant to Robinson that he dropped. Would have run a fair distance if caught. I do agree that we need to attack the entire field though. We dont seem to play between the hashes often enough.
Slant would do that. Just not sure i want my 5'8 190 freshman doing it a bunch every game.
 

oldjar07

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What's your take on the O line play? I only got to see the 3rd qtr and haven't had time or the desire to watch the 4th qtr. The low snap on that 3rd down in OT was a killer.
Overall the O line play was much better than week 1, especially in the first half. Colorado probably had a below average D line, but some of their linebackers were decent and aggressive. We didn't always block well when we got to the 2nd level, but at least we got there unlike the first week. Cam Jurgens was much better overall.
 

newAD

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Agree with the mills part. The best pass martinez threw in the 2nd half was a slant to Robinson that he dropped. Would have run a fair distance if caught. I do agree that we need to attack the entire field though. We dont seem to play between the hashes often enough.
Slant would do that. Just not sure i want my 5'8 190 freshman doing it a bunch every game.

That drop about killed me.
 

oldjar07

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3 things I completely agree with: Number one we don't have the conditioning part of strength and conditioning down, number 2 quit throwing swing passes to Mills that's a 2 yard loss waiting to happen, number 3 get the Ball to Robinson 3 to 4 yards downfield on a slant pattern and let him run. that guys a touchdown waiting to happen but he's too small to send into deep patterns he needs to be getting the ball within 5 yards of the line of scrimmage
Couldn't agree more. Would love to see Mills make someone miss just once. For as much as he was talked up, he seems to run directly into defenders and even the best power backs aren't going to break many tackles doing that.

Either get WR some space in the middle of the field or use him more at running back. Every pass to him seems to be to the flat and our blocking is nowhere close to good enough for him to find any space to work with by the sideline.
 

schuele

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Agree with the mills part. The best pass martinez threw in the 2nd half was a slant to Robinson that he dropped.

Martinez also had a nice pass to Spielman while moving to his left, which the announcers referred to it as a "Mahomes throw." Their words, not mine, because it wasn't nearly as difficult as the throws Mahomes is known for. But I do think Martinez will be more successful if NU moves him around right from the snap, rather than having him try to scramble only when the pocket collapses.
 

oldjar07

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Agree with the mills part. The best pass martinez threw in the 2nd half was a slant to Robinson that he dropped. Would have run a fair distance if caught. I do agree that we need to attack the entire field though. We dont seem to play between the hashes often enough.
Slant would do that. Just not sure i want my 5'8 190 freshman doing it a bunch every game.
Frost's offense is predicated on quick passes to the sideline and deep seam passes to stretch the offense horizontally and vertically. When it works, it looks beautiful. The problem though is when you have a qb that can't or isn't willing to hit those deeper passes. The defense can then play up on the short sideline passes and blow those plays up as well, especially with our poor perimeter blocking. Colorado had a good game plan taking those two things away. And when you can't run those concepts of our passing game, our offense starts looking rather ugly.

I think Robinson would be more valuable as a running back at this point than he is with whatever we're doing with him in the passing game. He probably has the best vision of any of the running backs. We are trying to get the ball to him in the flat, but those plays just aren't working. I think we need to give him more routes across the middle or use him more in the running game to get better use out of him.
 

oldjar07

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On the defensive side, I've seen a lot of plays where no one is accounting for a running back going out to the flat. I'd assume a linebacker would have this responsibility a lot, but they continue rushing the qb, or stay close to the los like they have no idea the running back is out there. Another thing I noticed in week 1 especially is we were very slow to react to motion before the snap. Due to the motion we were way out of position before they even snapped the ball and it confused guys on their assignments.

Some more problems I noticed in the Colorado game is we have 2 weak run stopping players on the same side a lot. Putting Ben Stille and Tannor on the same side or another weak run stopping linebacker along with Stille is just asking for trouble. The flea flicker and some other plays Colorado ran were great calls that exploited how aggressive our safeties are.

We also need to figure out our red zone defense. There's no reason South Alabama and Colorado should have been able to score so easily when they got to the red zone. The personnel decisions are a bit perplexing when in the red zone. We were in nickel a lot and we had Ben Stille, Honas, and Eli Sullivan in those plays who are all weak run stoppers and tacklers.
 

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We've had tons of chances to run bubble screens and have not. We did run one to wandale and AM2 made a horrendous throw that wandale had no chance at.
 

dinglefritz

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Overall the O line play was much better than week 1, especially in the first half. Colorado probably had a below average D line, but some of their linebackers were decent and aggressive. We didn't always block well when we got to the 2nd level, but at least we got there unlike the first week. Cam Jurgens was much better overall.
The problem for a center is you can play well the whole game and then make one bad snap in OT and it erases much of what you did the rest of the game. I didn't get to see that snap, but Davison made it sound like it screwed up the play that he got sacked on.
 

BigredN

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The problem for a center is you can play well the whole game and then make one bad snap in OT and it erases much of what you did the rest of the game. I didn't get to see that snap, but Davison made it sound like it screwed up the play that he got sacked on.
It was a bad snap and did disrupt the play. However Martinez didnt help matters as he didnt move. Looked alot like a deer in the headlights.

The snap allowed xtra time for colorados rush to press the pocket. He didnt move=sack. Game over.

I know he's a young guy but i guarantee he would have ,at a minimum, tried to create space last year. Something has changed. I sure hope he gets it figured out.
 

schuele

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It was a bad snap and did disrupt the play. However Martinez didnt help matters as he didnt move. Looked alot like a deer in the headlights.

The snap allowed xtra time for colorados rush to press the pocket. He didnt move=sack. Game over.

I know he's a young guy but i guarantee he would have ,at a minimum, tried to create space last year. Something has changed. I sure hope he gets it figured out.
NU needs to get Martinez out of the pocket on purpose, instead of only when it collapses. He's a much better QB when he's on the move.
 

BuckysBoys1

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It was a bad snap and did disrupt the play. However Martinez didnt help matters as he didnt move. Looked alot like a deer in the headlights.

The snap allowed xtra time for colorados rush to press the pocket. He didnt move=sack. Game over.

I know he's a young guy but i guarantee he would have ,at a minimum, tried to create space last year. Something has changed. I sure hope he gets it figured out.


The pass was going to Wandale on a slant. But the low snap threw the timing off and crap o line blocking lead to a huge sack.
 

TruHusker

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Overall the O line play was much better than week 1, especially in the first half. Colorado probably had a below average D line, but some of their linebackers were decent and aggressive. We didn't always block well when we got to the 2nd level, but at least we got there unlike the first week. Cam Jurgens was much better overall.

I am watching the game right now for the first time. I am at the 6 minute mark of the second half. The O line is not impressing me at all. They often make initial contact and then don't follow through. Too many blown assignments on stunts and blitzes.
 

newAD

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Nebraska still scored a touchdown 3 plays later. Wandale would have probably scored had he caught that ball. Also JD dropped a slant pass right over the middle.

Me on the slant drop:
 

barney44

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NU needs to get Martinez out of the pocket on purpose, instead of only when it collapses. He's a much better QB when he's on the move.

If anything it would help mask problems on the line. It’s clear that our interior is weak and that isn’t helping matters here. You're only as good as those around you so for Martinez to have a lot of success our line needs to create some space. I don’t think it’s the answer here but it helps.
 

barney44

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I am watching the game right now for the first time. I am at the 6 minute mark of the second half. The O line is not impressing me at all. They often make initial contact and then don't follow through. Too many blown assignments on stunts and blitzes.

I don’t know if you rewatched the South Alabama game but there were times in that game where our line was a complete mess. It looked like they were confused and didn’t know what to do.

1st half against Colorado we had times where they had a beautiful pocket set up, it was like watching a blossoming flower but then other times it was a mess again. I don’t know if they’re not all on the same page at the same time or what but we clearly have a problem here.