Reeves committing today?

kelzer

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Whoops. My bad. Was talking about CJ on another thread. That defensive # u posted worries me. Mintz got blown by all the time. Hope Reeves isn't really worse defensively
Worries me too.

I'm a big CJ fan. If he's healthy, his defense will surprise a lot of people. He doesn't get a lot of steals or blocks, so it doesn't show up in individual stats, but he plays really good fundamental positional defense, doing things that don't show up in stats, like cutting off passing lanes.
 

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Don’t forget Livingston is a 53% three-point shooter as stated in other thread. Plus Frederick and when you add one Wheeler trey after every five attempts we will be ballin’, shot callin’.
Livingston was a 33% three-point shooter in high-school, far from 53%. His free-throw shooting has been abysmal as of late too, really struggling from the charity line. If he throws up shot after shot everyday in the gym this summer, I really hope he can improve in this area. If he does, look out. Shooting is pretty much his only weakness right now.
 
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BMo643

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Frederick's defensive rating at Iowa was 110.3. Dontaie Allen's defensive rating in his two years at UK was 102.6 and his rating is the 2nd worst on the team (Grady 103.1) followed by Mintz 102.5, Wheeler 101.3 and Hopkins 99.7. So Frederick's Iowa defensive rating would rank him far and away dead last in defense on the UK roster.

If he plays a lot this year it will be because he's a lights out shooter and not because of his defense.
 
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RoyKent

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Frederick's defensive rating at Iowa was 110.3. Dontaie Allen's defensive rating in his two years at UK was 102.6 and his rating is the 2nd worst on the team (Grady 103.1) followed by Mintz 102.5, Wheeler 101.3 and Hopkins 99.7. So Frederick's Iowa defensive rating would rank him far and away dead last in defense on the UK roster.

If he plays a lot this year it will be because he's a lights out shooter and not because of his defense.

Yeah, his defense leaves a lot to be desired.

But, I think a better barometer is the difference between your O rating and your D rating. That will tell you how many more points you score or allow per 100 possessions.

Frederick's difference is +18.7 which is insanely good.

In comparison, Reeves (the subject of this thread) is +2.8
 

BMo643

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Yeah, his defense leaves a lot to be desired.

But, I think a better barometer is the difference between your O rating and your D rating. That will tell you how many more points you score or allow per 100 possessions.

Frederick's difference is +18.7 which is insanely good.

In comparison, Reeves (the subject of this thread) is +2.8
I think its hard to really grade Frederick's stats because he played at Iowa. His offensive stats are probably inflated because Iowa and McCaffery do usually run a clean, well oiled offense - and then play no defense.

Regardless of the actual hard data I would suspect that his defense will be the subject of debate in the coming season. So this begs the question will Cal play him? Will this be another D. Allen situation where he blames not playing him on his lack of defense? I've been of the opinion that Frederick would be rotational piece and nothing more since he arrived in Lexington though.
 
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So CJ isn't a fully-rounded player good at both ends? Like that's a newsflash? How many teams have 5 guys better than average at both offense and defense? We won't have that either, even if someone besides CJ is playing. If he can light it up from 3, you figure out how to minimize his weakness on defense.
 
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BMo643

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So CJ isn't a fully-rounded player good at both ends? Like that's a newsflash? How many teams have 5 guys better than average at both offense and defense? We won't have that either, even if someone besides CJ is playing. If he can light it up from 3, you figure out how to minimize his weakness on defense.
Again...though I ask. Do you have faith in Cal doing that? Cal's history has shown us he typically goes with "his" guys that play best at both ends of the court unless his hands are absolutely tied.
 

westerncat

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Frederick's defensive rating at Iowa was 110.3. Dontaie Allen's defensive rating in his two years at UK was 102.6 and his rating is the 2nd worst on the team (Grady 103.1) followed by Mintz 102.5, Wheeler 101.3 and Hopkins 99.7. So Frederick's Iowa defensive rating would rank him far and away dead last in defense on the UK roster.

If he plays a lot this year it will be because he's a lights out shooter and not because of his defense.
Some said CJ was a good defensive player at Iowa. Plus I read here this past year that he was the best shooter on the team. Hopefully he stays injury free this year.
 
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RalphDaltonFan

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If we're going to fairly criticize Fredrick on his injury history that also has to be added to his limitations or drop off defensively. When healthy he can hold up defensively. But what his #1 attribute will be is knocking down shots. The guy can shoot the ball.
 

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Yeah, his defense leaves a lot to be desired.

But, I think a better barometer is the difference between your O rating and your D rating. That will tell you how many more points you score or allow per 100 possessions.

Frederick's difference is +18.7 which is insanely good.

In comparison, Reeves (the subject of this thread) is +2.8
Can't wait to watch you shred him in the game threads next season.
 
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BMo643

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If we're going to fairly criticize Fredrick on his injury history that also has to be added to his limitations or drop off defensively. When healthy he can hold up defensively. But what his #1 attribute will be is knocking down shots. The guy can shoot the ball.
Right. Also I don't think anyone is expecting to see Frederick on court 20+ mins a game next year. He'll be part of the rotation and not playing starters minutes which will also limit his defensive shortcomings a little as well.
 

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I'll add this about CJ at Iowa - and this is mostly a dig on Garza - but that Iowa team played A LOT of 2-3 zone, which Cal won't do
 
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Worries me too.

I'm a big CJ fan. If he's healthy, his defense will surprise a lot of people. He doesn't get a lot of steals or blocks, so it doesn't show up in individual stats, but he plays really good fundamental positional defense, doing things that don't show up in stats, like cutting off passing lanes.
Defense is the easiest thing to improve. Defense is 70% effort, 20% playing smart, and 10% athleticism.
When you are depended on to score 20/gm at SIU, you are probably not asked to focus on defense. But when you are fighting at a top tier school for minutes, you put more effort into it. I think defense was a concern we had of Grady a year ago, and he was a decent defender for us this year when he was healthier (i.e. I think he was who locked down Agbagi).
 

RalphDaltonFan

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Right. Also I don't think anyone is expecting to see Frederick on court 20+ mins a game next year. He'll be part of the rotation and not playing starters minutes which will also limit his defensive shortcomings a little as well.
Exactly. I'm sure they'll be games he'll be getting more minutes than others, specifically when he's making shots, but he has to hold up which has happened enough that has to be assumed as an issue until it's not.
 

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It’s not Reeves but the guy I’ve been pounding the table for, Baylor Scheierman, will enter the portal. He can be a PG, Grady replacement, depth guy all in one.
 

RoyKent

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Something is going on with Reeves. Was supposed to happen over the weekend and it (obviously) hasn’t.

Was told tonight UK isn’t sure if it’s going to happen with Reeves now. Apparently some differing opinions amongst UK staff and Reeves in terms of his role, bringing in additional pieces, etc…
 

bucsrule8872

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Something is going on with Reeves. Was supposed to happen over the weekend and it (obviously) hasn’t.

Was told tonight UK isn’t sure if it’s going to happen with Reeves now. Apparently some differing opinions amongst UK staff and Reeves in terms of his role, bringing in additional pieces, etc…
Kid probably wants to be a guaranteed starter and with our roster that is not going to happen.
 

DaDirtyLeb69

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Something is going on with Reeves. Was supposed to happen over the weekend and it (obviously) hasn’t.

Was told tonight UK isn’t sure if it’s going to happen with Reeves now. Apparently some differing opinions amongst UK staff and Reeves in terms of his role, bringing in additional pieces, etc…
Told by who?
 

Bigtyrone

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I went into the wrong profession. I should have been a recruiting "expert". I mean what other job can you be wrong so many times and nobody seems to care. I mean those guys just pick something and when it doesn't happen they use the old "things changed" excuse and move on to the next prediction.
Meteorologist in the Ohio Valley.
 

RoyKent

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Alright i really wanted to Kentucky to get him, he would/could be a really good piece
I really like him as well. But, not as a 2nd or 3rd option, more like a 5th or 6th type option. That’s where the disconnect seems to be between Reeves and UK.

I think they still figure it out and he becomes a Cat though (I hope). They both have gone too far (in my opinion) to start over.
 
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DaDirtyLeb69

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I really like him as well. But, not as a 2nd or 3rd option, more like a 5th or 6th type option. That’s where the disconnect seems to be between Reeves and UK.
I thing he could compete with Frederick for that starting 3 role and be competitive
 

JwUKFan11

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Something is going on with Reeves. Was supposed to happen over the weekend and it (obviously) hasn’t.

Was told tonight UK isn’t sure if it’s going to happen with Reeves now. Apparently some differing opinions amongst UK staff and Reeves in terms of his role, bringing in additional pieces, etc…
Yeah brother I’m sure you get all the information LOL
 
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DaDirtyLeb69

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We really could have a lineup of 3 guys who can’t shoot, well two for sure in wheller and Oscar, I’m not sure how good a shooter Wallace is but he will be good at all the other stuff
 
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Or is Reeves just going to wait until the dates he's repeatedly given to make his announcement? The only people who kept saying he was going to announce were media guys. They've also been hinting at him going public for 2 weeks now. The actual player has said sometime in May. So it could be as simple as that.
 

DaDirtyLeb69

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Or is Reeves just going to wait until the dates he's repeatedly given to make his announcement? The only people who kept saying he was going to announce were media guys. They've also been hinting at him going public for 2 weeks now. The actual player has said sometime in May. So it could be as simple as that.
This is whole thing has me realize more than ever that with recruiting very few people actually have connections and a lot of the times people are guessing/hoping, especially team affiliated insiders
 

Wunky

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Yeah, his defense leaves a lot to be desired.

But, I think a better barometer is the difference between your O rating and your D rating. That will tell you how many more points you score or allow per 100 possessions.

Frederick's difference is +18.7 which is insanely good.

In comparison, Reeves (the subject of this thread) is +2.8

Would you happen to have that same stat for Keion Brooks? I’d really like to know what his difference is.

And y’all quit freakin out about possibly not getting Reeves. If we don’t get him it’s because O and Chin are after bigger fish. Be patient!
 

bookerfan66

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Would you happen to have that same stat for Keion Brooks? I’d really like to know what his difference is.

And y’all quit freakin out about possibly not getting Reeves. If we don’t get him it’s because O and Chin are after bigger fish. Be patient!
Chin and O haven't done **** so far.Wallace was Lucas.
 

RoyKent

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Would you happen to have that same stat for Keion Brooks? I’d really like to know what his difference is.

And y’all quit freakin out about possibly not getting Reeves. If we don’t get him it’s because O and Chin are after bigger fish. Be patient!

Brooks gets a bad rap but his advanced metrics are really good.

O rating = 113.7
D rating = 98.2
 
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