Solid. Well stated, Solana.
Reason Moos is stalling
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I think Moos has his guy as well - though if it's Frost, it seems like he was pretty preoccupied between coaching and the new baby to make a major life decision like that last week. He and his wife can't even decide what to name the baby yet. So I would think it would take quite a bit of time to work out the terms of his contract and all of that.
I’m not sure all of this happened just last week. I’m guessing this has been going on much longer.
Yeah I saw that pic. These people that think Neb are the only crazy fans don't pay attention to other programs. FL is about as crazy as it gets. They haven't had it as bad as us. So all things considered we are all being pretty tame and patient.
Moos has only been on the job a couple of weeks. If it's Frost, that's pretty impressive that he was able to work out a deal with him in only a couple of weeks, especially with all that was going on in Scott's life at the time.
This is probably one thing I would disagree with. I am guessing like everyone else but administrative experience would tell me Moos was given the word to properly exam every aspect of the football program and make a recommendation. I don't think it is fair to anyone to hire someone and tell them the first thing they are required to do is fire someone. Moos has to fairly evaluate the program based on expectations that were already in place from the past admin. Although he can fire Riley and Co. for whatever criteria he wants, he is much wiser if he utilizes what expectations were already in place and carefully weave in his own. It is obvious that if you sense or suspect a coach might be leaving you begin to plan for that - again I would guess he has made multiple phone calls AFTER he has properly evaluated things. If a coach found out that the AD was looking to fill your seat before you had sat down and talked to him, that fire would spread through the entire college and you would have problems. JMHO
He was announced as AD on October 15 and his first day on the job in Lincoln was October 23. Your timeline isn’t accurate.
Besides, moos isn’t talking to Frost anyway. He would be talking to his agent. That likely started on day 1.
Moos started October 23rd. Another posted indicated that he had a coach locked up between Nov 6-13. That's only 2-3 weeks after he started here. Frost's son was born on Nov 8. Pretty impressive if he was able to lock him up that quickly and during the week his son was born.
You may be right, no one really knows... but if moos was working with frost’s agent and frost had told him to get it done, much of the work could have been done by the agent and Frost simply needed to say yes or no.
Not saying that happened, just that it could have been done in a few weeks.
I have a hunch it is all done but the actual signing of the contract. Moos just seems way too calm right now. Kind of a quiet confidence he is exuding right now. As my Puerto Rican neighbor likes to say... Que suave...
It is not stalling when he is hired to put together winning programs across the board. He is calculated and not going to make a lame *** hire without seeing what he has available here and outside what every one of us "arm chair" NU fans want or desire. Let Moos do his job - his butt was hired to do it and to put a winner in the hottest seat at any University with a fan base that is rabid with at times unrealistic results. We all would like the 2nd coming of TO but we will need to give whomever is hired the resources and the time to develop his brand of winning. Hopefully whomever it is he brings a smile and an attitude that winning and putting good people thru our university is key and that most high school kids will want to come here from all parts of the country to again make this the greatest athletic school in all of the NCAA.
All can be, and have in the past, be waived. The above has zero impact on hiring a coach at Nebraska.
By all accounts Frost wanted to come here. He has stated in the past he wanted to come here. I don't think it would be to hard to convince him to come here if offered. Basically I am sure Moos threw a very good offer at Frosts agent (word is around that 7yr 30-35 mill). Frosts agent took it to Frost and the deal was basically done. Yes I am sure there is some minor things that needed to be negotiated. Overall I bet it all took less than a week to get the final agreement.
Just curious what these "unrealistic results" are? I am sorry I just don't see it? Is giving Cally 4 years, having him go 5-6,8-4, 9-5, 5-7, having him destroy (literally) every tradition we had, winning nothing of importance, and being a crazy nut job. Is that being "unrealistic.
Is giving Bo 7 years, having him win no more than 9 games, no conf champ, basically stalled out the program at middle of the pack, which he and the players were absolutly fine with. Besides also being a crazy hot head who installed an us vs the world mentallity to his players. Is that being to unrealistic?
Or giving MR 3 years a 20+ year coach who is just above .500, who is slightly above .500 here. Who has only beat 2 ranked teams since being here, getting blown out by all others. Who, is coaching possibly one of the worse Neb teams in the last 60+ years. Is that being unrealistic?
Maybe I am way off but from the people I am around and talk to, people do not expect to win a Conf title or NC by year 3-4. They want a team that is showing growth, that is showing heart and fight and progress from year to year. A team that doesn't lay down and die against teams like Minn. A team that is not happy with just going to a bowl. We have not had that in almost 20 years. If you consider those expectation "unrealistic" then you can count almost every program in the country as having "unrealistic" goals
Exactly. DId I also hear correctly the Matt Davison has been extra happy lately? That he also resently resigned from is broadcast gig? If true, Maybe because he is joining Frost is some aspect???
I hope you're right. I do find it interesting that Frost hasn't come out and said he has no interest in the Nebraska job. He said he will look at his options at the end of the year.
Last year when the Oregon job opened up, Frost immediately said he had zero interest in that job, even if Phil Knight offered him $8 million.
Ding Ding Ding. Exactly. This is a huge distraction for his team. If he had no interest he would have already said he isn't interested and was staying put.
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Thank you. Best post I've seen on this subject lately.
What good would it do to fire him now versus after the Iowa game. Do you see any advantages to that?
Easy answer: #4 He comes from the generation that honored their word, and did business with a handshake. (Now there's a novel idea).
Amen - this post NU fans do not have unrealistic expectations at least not anymore
It is a novel idea, but one that is lost in todays society
Well, you know what they say....you should always trust your gut. Your gut seems to be leading you in the right direction.
Yep. I trusted my gut also when Riley was announced. Caught so much flack for it and was unfortunately proven right.
Some things never change. Just more scare tactics with no substance behind it. I think the fans are much smarter than Shine is giving them credit for.
So much truth.
Butthurt coalition can't admit how terrible Riley is so they have to try to make the fanbase sound crazy and stupid by putting words into people's mouths about expecting conference title in year three, etc....it's a lie.
How is that a scare tactic? If Frost isn’t our coach, Moos should automatically be fired? That’s what you believe?
Moos never stalled - he just didn't explicitly fire Mike during the Tuesday meeting. Moos has been working behind the scenes and Riley knows he's not head coach. I'd bet they had a productive meeting with Moos laying the firing thick.
Both know where they stand. It's Moos' job to make sure it doesn't get stupid - like at Florida.
Both know where they stand. It's Moos' job to make sure it doesn't get stupid - like at Florida.
I still think it makes sense to fire Mike today (Sat) and then you can announce Frost on Dec 3rd or 4th. That gives you 7-8 days to say you did your 'search'.