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Geez, I'm sorry your passion has been invaded, kidnapped, and held for ransom by agents. Sounds horrible. And no, I don't believe your statement is dramatic in the least. I really do believe your passion is being held for ransom...after being invaded and kidnapped.

I'll leave the porch light on for ya.
 

jedwar

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I felt it's pretty important to mention considering Donnie Freeman would be signed already. His agent is the sole reason he is not.
It's going to take teams to play hardball with them. As in moving on to the next viable option. A player of Freeman's caliber should never be able to jerk around a blueblood. If you move on they will eventually learn UK won't be toyed with. I know we'd lose some talent to perhaps lesser talent but not that much imo.
 

VC99

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Geez, I'm sorry your passion has been invaded, kidnapped, and held for ransom by agents. Sounds horrible. And no, I don't believe your statement is dramatic in the least. I really do believe your passion is being held for ransom...after being invaded and kidnapped.

I'll leave the porch light on for ya.
It's literally the definition of a ransom lol. Lawyers and agents whose only goal is to make money, came in, threw a tantrum, changed the entire thing to benefit them and literally hold players for ransom and decide where they'll go. It's just the truth, doesn't have to be dramatic. AT LEAST make agents illegal or something. The player has to communicate directly to the school and negotiate.
 

Ash Williams

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It's going to take teams to play hardball with them. As in moving on to the next viable option. A player of Freeman's caliber should never be able to jerk around a blueblood. If you move on they will eventually learn UK won't be toyed with. I know we'd lose some talent to perhaps lesser talent but not that much imo.
Yeah how's that worked out for MLB. Have you seen Ohtani's contract?
 
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Nightwish

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It's literally the definition of a ransom lol. College basketball was (at least officially) an amateur sport that revolved around academic institutions. Lawyers and agents whose only goal is to make money, came in, threw a tantrum, changed the entire thing to benefit them and literally hold players for ransom and decide where they'll go. It's just the truth, doesn't have to be dramatic.
Ransom: a sum of money or property demanded or paid for the release of a captured person or property.

WHO OR WHAT IS CAPTURED AND ISN'T BEING RELEASED UNLESS MONEY IS GIVEN FOR THE RELEASE?

Stop being dramatic please. Thank you.
 

VC99

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Ransom: a sum of money or property demanded or paid for the release of a captured person or property.

WHO OR WHAT IS CAPTURED AND ISN'T BEING RELEASED UNLESS MONEY IS GIVEN FOR THE RELEASE?

Stop being dramatic please. Thank you.
The player whose full intention and desire is to play for the university. It has been publicly reported that many of these kids do not feel in charge of where they are going and the agents are in the driver's seat.
 

VC99

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Oh FFS...so a 20 year old kid and/or a parent should negotiate these deals against an institution that employs lawyers that do these kinds of deals on a regular basis. Yes we do have some dumb fans
If a 20 year old kid wants the advantage that the institution created, by playing for that institution. Yes. Friendly reminder, basketball has no real world value. The NCAA and the NBA are what created the value.
 

VC99

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I tried to warn people about how stupid the current rev share model is. Kentucky without a doubt has more support than St. Johns but St. Johns literally does not have a football program. It is the definition of "buying a program." They will be able to DRASTICALLY overspend for players, which is what they are doing with Freeman. It is a rule that literally gives St. Johns and schools like them an unfair advantage for NO reason at all.
 

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The player whose full intention and desire is to play for the university. It has been publicly reported that many of these kids do not feel in charge of where they are going and the agents are in the driver's seat.
That's ridiculous. The agent works for the player. He is an employee. The agent can't "make" the player do anything
 

megablue

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Our sport and passion has been invaded, kidnapped, and held for ransom by agents.
Sucking the blood out of the sport ... I tend to agree, but understand they must have a role. The CNN special suggested their fee rate is too high at 20%, as compared to 4% for pro sports.
 
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VC99

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That's ridiculous. The agent works for the player. He is an employee. The agent can't "make" the player do anything
That is what's happening. The agent does not want the kid to sign, the agent tells the kid to wait. Again these are 19/20 year old kids being manipulated by greedy agents. They have no intention of just letting them sign with the first team they like.
 

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That is what's happening. The agent does not want the kid to sign, the agent tells the kid to wait. Again these are 19/20 year old kids being manipulated by greedy agents. They have no intention of just letting them sign with the first team they like.
The kids are greedy then. They used to get zip. They hired the agent. Should have been raised right